Any 50mm f/1.2 lenses out there?

Photomaximum · 09-28-2008, 03:11 PM

I think a few different versions of the lens were made. Small numbers though..

Any pics?

Anyone have one for sale?

Max

quyi419 · 09-28-2008, 04:10 PM

Here is one I am selling

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/photographers-marketplace/38151-pentax-k5...15-55mmii.html

LittleSkink · 09-29-2008, 01:29 AM

according to this list, there are 4 versions PKM, PKM Gold, PKA and PKA Special.

Pentax "Normal" Prime Lenses

Not something I have looked to buy myself as the price difference from 1.4 was too much to justify (and I cant get my MF f1.4 pics in focus much of the time

) but did see two near mint ones at SH photo in Germany for 450 Euro a few weeks ago

SH photo

frank · 09-29-2008, 01:46 AM

Originally posted by LittleSkink

according to this list, there are 4 versions PKM, PKM Gold, PKA and PKA Special.

Pentax "Normal" Prime Lenses

Actually there are five versions:
SMC PENTAX 1:1.2/50
smc PENTAX 1:1.2 50mm
smc PENTAX 1:1.2 50mm gold
smc PENTAX-A 1:1.2 50mm
smc PENTAX-A 1:1.2 50mm Special

The very first version has SMC all capitalized, and marked as 1:1.2/50 instead of 1:1.2 50mm. It's probably the same as the rest optically ...

RaduA · 09-29-2008, 03:47 AM

MHO about this is that with the advent of the DA*55 a price over 400 Euro for any of the 50/1.2 it's hardly justifiable from a technical standpoint. Most likely, at least this is my opinion; the new lens will smoke for performance the older designs big time plus the SDM, plus the most likely strongly reduced CA, plus the ws plus about 30 years of improvement in coatings and glass technology. And the 1/2 stop in favor of 50/1.2's could be useful only in most extreme situations and with a severe loss in contrast and color rendition.

I'll pass it without hesitation and wait for the DA*55!

Radu

jake.astig · 09-29-2008, 06:06 AM

Are you looking for one as part of a collection or as a user lens?
If you don't mind cosmetics I have an extra one that I'd let go.

k100d · 09-29-2008, 06:12 AM

matsuiyastore on ebay has an endless supply of A 50 1.2
most people who get new ones will get them there, 580 new, excellent service

here is my post on the lens
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/27090-pentax-5...on-photos.html

**Kerrowdown** · 09-29-2008, 01:26 PM

Hey Max, is this you rebuilding your A series collection again.

Photomaximum · 09-29-2008, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by kerrowdown

Hey Max, is this you rebuilding your A series collection again.

LOL...

Actually I am having a great time just reading about Pentax again. I have been doing a lot of reading on the "Alternative Lens" forum over at FredMiranda. Really interesting stuff. There are tons of folks experimenting with mounting different lenses onto different bodies.

Some of this is due to a perceived lacking in a modern manufacturer's lineup, for cost savings, or obtaining a particular "look." Some of these old lens are quietly becoming "rock stars" in this arena. The Minolta Rokkor 58/1.2 now has a major following (they can be adapted to mount on the Canon 5D etc) and prices have gone through the roof. The Pentax 50/1.2 also has its devotees as does the Super Takumar 1.4.

After considering the 1.2 I bought a great little Super Takumar 1.4 today for $45! The focus ring is silky smooth and the glass is fungus free. The glass is a little yellow from the radioactive element but I can live with that. Quite a few shooters love how this lens works near wide open. Its very sharp but nice and "dreamy" wide open.

Here is a photo, taken 10 minutes ago...

roentarre · 09-29-2008, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by frank

Actually there are five versions:
SMC PENTAX 1:1.2/50
smc PENTAX 1:1.2 50mm
smc PENTAX 1:1.2 50mm gold
smc PENTAX-A 1:1.2 50mm
smc PENTAX-A 1:1.2 50mm Special

The very first version has SMC all capitalized, and marked as 1:1.2/50 instead of 1:1.2 50mm. It's probably the same as the rest optically ...

I saw the gold version when I was in Taipei and I was so thrilled to see the near new condition of that lens. Beautiful in deed. Pity that I thought the pricing was too expensive at the time...

I did not know there are so many version altogether!

little laker · 09-29-2008, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by Photomaximum

After considering the 1.2 I bought a great little Super Takumar 1.4 today for $45! The focus ring is silky smooth and the glass is fungus free. The glass is a little yellow from the radioactive element but I can live with that. Quite a few shooters love how this lens works near wide open. Its very sharp but nice and "dreamy" wide open.

Try some flower close-ups with it at f2.8

Although I use mine mostly on a Sigma body.

lithos · 09-29-2008, 05:12 PM

There's a bit more on it here.

Heh.

Photomaximum · 09-29-2008, 09:04 PM

In case anyone was wondering how I made the portrait of the Takumar...

Really quick shot with a Canon 5D camera with 45mm TS-E Tilt-Shift lens and Extension Tube EF12 with a little tilt for added focus. Photo taken on my computer desktop on a piece of cheap Xerox laser paper triggered with a Canon Transmitter ST-E2 that fired a Nikon SB-800 Speedlight flash set on SU-4 manual setting at 1/4 power while positioned on top of my desktop Mac Pro.

As you can tell I enjoy mixing apples and oranges...

Max

Blue · 09-29-2008, 09:15 PM

Originally posted by RaduA

MHO about this is that with the advent of the DA*55 a price over 400 Euro for any of the 50/1.2 it's hardly justifiable from a technical standpoint. Most likely, at least this is my opinion; the new lens will smoke for performance the older designs big time plus the SDM, plus the most likely strongly reduced CA, plus the ws plus about 30 years of improvement in coatings and glass technology. And the 1/2 stop in favor of 50/1.2's could be useful only in most extreme situations and with a severe loss in contrast and color rendition.

I'll pass it without hesitation and wait for the DA*55!

Radu

Good point. I will start a repository for old obsolete Pentax lenses such as fast 50s. For a small shipping fee, I will see that they are disposed of properly.

the_snark · 09-30-2008, 05:38 AM

Originally posted by Photomaximum

In case anyone was wondering how I made the portrait of the Takumar...

Really quick shot with a Canon 5D camera with 45mm TS-E Tilt-Shift lens and Extension Tube EF12 with a little tilt for added focus. Photo taken on my computer desktop on a piece of cheap Xerox laser paper triggered with a Canon Transmitter ST-E2 that fired a Nikon SB-800 Speedlight flash set on SU-4 manual setting at 1/4 power while positioned on top of my desktop Mac Pro.

As you can tell I enjoy mixing apples and oranges...

Max

I just saw your shot of this lens on the Takumar thread and then again here. Amazing shot! and good to hear how you managed it. A lot more gear + knowhow than I have access to.

09-28-2008, 03:11 PM	#1
Photomaximum Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 108	Any 50mm f/1.2 lenses out there? I think a few different versions of the lens were made. Small numbers though.. Any pics? Anyone have one for sale? Max

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09-28-2008, 04:10 PM	#2
quyi419 New Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 9	Here is one I am selling https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/photographers-marketplace/38151-pentax-k5...15-55mmii.html

09-29-2008, 01:29 AM	#3
LittleSkink Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: t'North Photos: Albums Posts: 166	according to this list, there are 4 versions PKM, PKM Gold, PKA and PKA Special. Pentax "Normal" Prime Lenses Not something I have looked to buy myself as the price difference from 1.4 was too much to justify (and I cant get my MF f1.4 pics in focus much of the time ) but did see two near mint ones at SH photo in Germany for 450 Euro a few weeks ago SH photo

09-29-2008, 01:46 AM	#4
frank Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,202	Originally posted by LittleSkink according to this list, there are 4 versions PKM, PKM Gold, PKA and PKA Special. Pentax "Normal" Prime Lenses Actually there are five versions: SMC PENTAX 1:1.2/50 smc PENTAX 1:1.2 50mm smc PENTAX 1:1.2 50mm gold smc PENTAX-A 1:1.2 50mm smc PENTAX-A 1:1.2 50mm Special The very first version has SMC all capitalized, and marked as 1:1.2/50 instead of 1:1.2 50mm. It's probably the same as the rest optically ...

09-29-2008, 03:47 AM	#5
RaduA Guest	MHO about this is that with the advent of the DA55 a price over 400 Euro for any of the 50/1.2 it's hardly justifiable from a technical standpoint. Most likely, at least this is my opinion; the new lens will smoke for performance the older designs big time plus the SDM, plus the most likely strongly reduced CA, plus the ws plus about 30 years of improvement in coatings and glass technology. And the 1/2 stop in favor of 50/1.2's could be useful only in most extreme situations and with a severe loss in contrast and color rendition. I'll pass it without hesitation and wait for the DA55! Radu

09-29-2008, 06:06 AM	#6
jake.astig Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 160	Are you looking for one as part of a collection or as a user lens? If you don't mind cosmetics I have an extra one that I'd let go.

09-29-2008, 06:12 AM	#7
k100d Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,911	matsuiyastore on ebay has an endless supply of A 50 1.2 most people who get new ones will get them there, 580 new, excellent service here is my post on the lens https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/27090-pentax-5...on-photos.html

09-29-2008, 01:26 PM	#8
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,863	Hey Max, is this you rebuilding your A series collection again.

09-29-2008, 01:57 PM	#9
Photomaximum Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 108 Original Poster	Originally posted by kerrowdown Hey Max, is this you rebuilding your A series collection again. LOL... Actually I am having a great time just reading about Pentax again. I have been doing a lot of reading on the "Alternative Lens" forum over at FredMiranda. Really interesting stuff. There are tons of folks experimenting with mounting different lenses onto different bodies. Some of this is due to a perceived lacking in a modern manufacturer's lineup, for cost savings, or obtaining a particular "look." Some of these old lens are quietly becoming "rock stars" in this arena. The Minolta Rokkor 58/1.2 now has a major following (they can be adapted to mount on the Canon 5D etc) and prices have gone through the roof. The Pentax 50/1.2 also has its devotees as does the Super Takumar 1.4. After considering the 1.2 I bought a great little Super Takumar 1.4 today for $45! The focus ring is silky smooth and the glass is fungus free. The glass is a little yellow from the radioactive element but I can live with that. Quite a few shooters love how this lens works near wide open. Its very sharp but nice and "dreamy" wide open. Here is a photo, taken 10 minutes ago...

09-29-2008, 02:02 PM	#10
roentarre Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 11,783	Originally posted by frank Actually there are five versions: SMC PENTAX 1:1.2/50 smc PENTAX 1:1.2 50mm smc PENTAX 1:1.2 50mm gold smc PENTAX-A 1:1.2 50mm smc PENTAX-A 1:1.2 50mm Special The very first version has SMC all capitalized, and marked as 1:1.2/50 instead of 1:1.2 50mm. It's probably the same as the rest optically ... I saw the gold version when I was in Taipei and I was so thrilled to see the near new condition of that lens. Beautiful in deed. Pity that I thought the pricing was too expensive at the time... I did not know there are so many version altogether!

09-29-2008, 04:17 PM	#11
little laker Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,697	Originally posted by Photomaximum After considering the 1.2 I bought a great little Super Takumar 1.4 today for $45! The focus ring is silky smooth and the glass is fungus free. The glass is a little yellow from the radioactive element but I can live with that. Quite a few shooters love how this lens works near wide open. Its very sharp but nice and "dreamy" wide open. Try some flower close-ups with it at f2.8 Although I use mine mostly on a Sigma body.

09-29-2008, 05:12 PM	#12
lithos Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brisbane, QLD, AUS Posts: 3,261	There's a bit more on it here. Heh.

09-29-2008, 09:04 PM	#13
Photomaximum Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 108 Original Poster	In case anyone was wondering how I made the portrait of the Takumar... Really quick shot with a Canon 5D camera with 45mm TS-E Tilt-Shift lens and Extension Tube EF12 with a little tilt for added focus. Photo taken on my computer desktop on a piece of cheap Xerox laser paper triggered with a Canon Transmitter ST-E2 that fired a Nikon SB-800 Speedlight flash set on SU-4 manual setting at 1/4 power while positioned on top of my desktop Mac Pro. As you can tell I enjoy mixing apples and oranges... Max

09-29-2008, 09:15 PM	#14
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by RaduA MHO about this is that with the advent of the DA55 a price over 400 Euro for any of the 50/1.2 it's hardly justifiable from a technical standpoint. Most likely, at least this is my opinion; the new lens will smoke for performance the older designs big time plus the SDM, plus the most likely strongly reduced CA, plus the ws plus about 30 years of improvement in coatings and glass technology. And the 1/2 stop in favor of 50/1.2's could be useful only in most extreme situations and with a severe loss in contrast and color rendition. I'll pass it without hesitation and wait for the DA55! Radu Good point. I will start a repository for old obsolete Pentax lenses such as fast 50s. For a small shipping fee, I will see that they are disposed of properly.

09-30-2008, 05:38 AM	#15
the_snark Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Adelaide Posts: 54	Originally posted by Photomaximum In case anyone was wondering how I made the portrait of the Takumar... Really quick shot with a Canon 5D camera with 45mm TS-E Tilt-Shift lens and Extension Tube EF12 with a little tilt for added focus. Photo taken on my computer desktop on a piece of cheap Xerox laser paper triggered with a Canon Transmitter ST-E2 that fired a Nikon SB-800 Speedlight flash set on SU-4 manual setting at 1/4 power while positioned on top of my desktop Mac Pro. As you can tell I enjoy mixing apples and oranges... Max I just saw your shot of this lens on the Takumar thread and then again here. Amazing shot! and good to hear how you managed it. A lot more gear + knowhow than I have access to.