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05-05-2019, 01:11 AM   #1
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Revisiting the DA* 60-250?

I had a DA* 60-250 years ago, but didn't bond with it. There were no gripes about the image quality, but in the days before the K-1 and the new monster telephoto zooms I found the size and weight, the extension while zooming, and the focus breathing to be significant turn-offs.

I'll always have some specialty primes of course, and the DFA* 70-200 and DFA 150-450 still fill their respective niches better than anything, but now I plan to ditch the consumer zooms and old manual glass I see a 60-250 sized hole in my life once again. With a two body kit (KP and K-1 Mark II), I see it complimenting my DA* 11-18 and DFA 24-70 better than anything else.

Feel free to talk me out of it. Or not

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I am having quite a similar conundrum at the moment, having both a heavy and light kit, but no light FF tele option. Whilst at first I thought that the DA 60-250 would fill that niche well, I found that the focus and build quality of the lens isn't up to par compared to the more modern DA*/DFA* lenses. Optically that lens is fantastic, but honestly I would probably add a 200mm f2.8 and 1.4x TC as a light tele photo option instead, especially considering the considerable focus breathing problems that the 60-250mm had at close focusing distances.

That said, I currently use a Tokina AT-X 70-210mm f4.5 AF for my light tele, and due to its light weight it fits my needs currently until the 70-200mm f4 arrives.
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I would probably add a 200mm f2.8 and 1.4x TC as a light tele photo option instead
Good thought.

On the other hand, it's hard to beat the convenience of a zoom. I didn't like the purple fringing from the DA* 200 either, and the hood is enormous (same as the DA* 300).

I have the teleconverter, and it apparently works well with the DA* 60-250.
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Whenever I go out with the DA*60-250, I almost always bring the converter with me too. If I know I'm going to be shooting at close range, I fit the converter and it makes up for the focus breathing. Plus, at longer distances it adds nicely to the magnification.

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Image quality of the DA* 60-250 is superb, but compared to the DFA 70-200 the focus is slow. If that is not an issue for you then go for it.
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Whenever I go out with the DA*60-250, I almost always bring the converter with me too. If I know I'm going to be shooting at close range, I fit the converter and it makes up for the focus breathing. Plus, at longer distances it adds nicely to the magnification.
I like the way you're thinking Mike. It was certainly my intention to use the teleconverter for both those reasons.
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I would wait a bit (unless you need it now) and look at what the DFA 70-200 f4 brings. I think it will focus faster and be a sharper lens on the edges than the DA *60-250 on full frame. It might have more magnification too, who knows. My guess would be size in the range of the DA * 50-135 f2.8 -- probably just a bit bigger.
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Image quality of the DA* 60-250 is superb, but compared to the DFA 70-200 the focus is slow. If that is not an issue for you then go for it.
I see it as a lighter, more versatile option for travel and active outdoor use. I'd still use the DFA* 70-200 for gigs and events.

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Iím shooting with a KP and K-5II. Most of my kit is all 5 HD DA Ltd primes and the D FA 100 Macro WR (which is really another limited as far as Iím concerned). My only zoom at the moment is the 60-250 however I have ordered a Sigma 17-50. Last year choosing between the DA* 60-250 and DA* 200 was a tough choice. The 60-250 has not disappointed and is a stack of primes with punchy colours - I selected it for flexibility. Most times I find myself using the lens at the 200mm focal length so the DA* 200 would have also been ideal. This year I considered adding the 200 to my kit for the extra stop of light but bought the KP for a little less cash and the improved ISO performance of settling the need for the wider aperture in low light. The 200 is lighter and perhaps a better match for both of your cameras. If I had a K-1 and a KP the 200 would be my choice. Good luck with your decision.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Sandy Hancock Quote
I had a DA* 60-250 years ago, but didn't bond with it. There were no gripes about the image quality, but in the days before the K-1 and the new monster telephoto zooms I found the size and weight, the extension while zooming, and the focus breathing to be significant turn-offs.

I'll always have some specialty primes of course, and the DFA* 70-200 and DFA 150-450 still fill their respective niches better than anything, but now I plan to ditch the consumer zooms and old manual glass I see a 60-250 sized hole in my life once again. With a two body kit (KP and K-1 Mark II), I see it complimenting my DA* 11-18 and DFA 24-70 better than anything else.

Feel free to talk me out of it. Or not
the 60-250 was the first of the * lenses i bought. i have used it on the K10 through the K1 with fantastic results. i am considering selling my other DA* lenses but not the 60-250 it is too versatile to get rid of. i have seen people wanting a 70-200 f4 which i really don't understand since the 60-250 covers that and takes high quality images and is relatively lightweight for such a zoom range. i did have it altered when i got the K1 and it has performed flawlessly ever since. my advice is to use it.
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Sandy, your first two sentences say a lot! What has really changed; or is this likely a GAS attack? For your KP, the DA PLM 55-300mm really rocks for value, weight etc. It can work on your K1 as well. Otherwise, a heretical thought: Olympus Zuiko 45-150 f2.8 Pro w/ EM1 body! Lol!
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Otherwise, a heretical thought: Olympus Zuiko 45-150 f2.8 Pro w/ EM1 body! Lol!
I always consider DoF when buying fast lenses. To be comparable to 2.8 on FF the 4/3 lens would have to be a 1.4 lens. If you always shoot 5.6 or higher, for more depth of field then the advantage goes to the 4/3 camera, except for the much worse low light performance and stop lower diffraction limit.
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For those occasions when I don't want to carry the 70-200mm f/2.8, I would very likely not pack the 60-250mm either. So I just went with the DA 55-300mm PLM, expecting and accepting to crop on the K-1 accordingly, most of the time much bigger than APS-C. For the KP, it's the ideal match as a lightweight addition to the big zooms anyway. The 60-250mm is just too close. It would make sense as a sole lens if I had to choose just one tele-zoom.
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I did the baffle mod to my 60-250 and like it on my K-1 II, and then throw the K-3 II into the kit, and you've got a nice threesome. Add the 1.4 TC, and you've got some icing on the cake. AF speed is slow, but for general walking around, it's a nice way to go, especially given the versatility of the mix you can put together. And the 43 Limited (or 31) probably will find it's way into this bag.
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Sandy, your first two sentences say a lot! What has really changed; or is this likely a GAS attack? For your KP, the DA PLM 55-300mm really rocks for value, weight etc. It can work on your K1 as well.
This is actually the opposite of GAS - yesterday I made a list of twenty superb lenses, which I will most likely sell in the near future. The 55-300PLM is one of them, but I reserve the right to change my mind
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