Full Frame Fisheye Zoom F and 43 Limited on K5D (Sample Photos)

RiceHigh · 10-09-2008, 09:03 AM

I have posted 42 large size (2048 x 1365) sample photos at my following photo gallery:-

RiceHigh/FF Fisheye and 43 Limited on 5D - Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

With full remarks and explanations on the shooting settings, conditions, field performance and accuracies of the system and the final attained image quality etc. in below:-

RiceHigh's Pentax Blog: Sample Photos of Full Frame Fisheye and 43 Limited on 5D

Enjoy! and happy measurebations (just in case! ;-))

I hope my samples, information and experiences shared could be useful and serve as a good reference to all you folks who have a (Pentax) Full Frame dream!

Gooshin · 10-09-2008, 10:36 AM

curious why you decided to shoot jpeg, mainly because as a measurebator you would want to measure the best, no?

RiceHigh · 10-09-2008, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by Gooshin

curious why you decided to shoot jpeg, mainly because as a measurebator you would want to measure the best, no?

The direct jpeg output quality of the 5D is actually very high already. Furthermore, the camera is quite accurate and reliable in metering so that no post processing (raw conversion) is required to rectify the errors. The colour balance is not always "the white is better" but it usually matches my eyes well for the ambient scenes, so one less reasons to shoot RAW. Also, I know what manual WB to be chosen from if I just wanted the desired effect.

RAW conversion is time-consuming and troublesome IMHO. I used to sit in front of the PC to correct errors and rectify problem and then wait the computer to preview, calculate and output and then save, which is a process that can be avoided if it is possible (and with my 5D, it is possible!).

With saving both time and storage, I think it worths (as long as it works!).

Gooshin · 10-09-2008, 11:00 AM

next question, reading your words i am to assume that you modified your 5d to allow for kmount lenses

or did you simply follow steven's guide and modified the lenses to fit an eos mount?

also, as i can barely muster some japanese, traditional chinese is way beyond me, is there an english version of those texts somewhere?

Torphoto · 10-09-2008, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by RiceHigh

The direct jpeg output quality of the 5D is actually very high already. Furthermore, the camera is quite accurate and reliable in metering so that no post processing (raw conversion) is required to rectify the errors. The colour balance is not always "the white is better" but it usually matches my eyes well for the ambient scenes, so one less reasons to shoot RAW. Also, I know what manual WB to be chosen from if I just wanted the desired effect.

RAW conversion is time-consuming and troublesome IMHO. I used to sit in front of the PC to correct errors and rectify problem and then wait the computer to preview, calculate and output and then save, which is a process that can be avoided if it is possible (and with my 5D, it is possible!).

With saving both time and storage, I think it worths (as long as it works!).

Rice dude you have just placed your self in the "ignore any statement this person makes" category, permanently! to come in here and say there is no point in shooting raw on a 5D the jpgs are good enough! Trust me I have shot with the 5D and the raw makes a difference and any true photographer worth their salt knows this, to say otherwise and claim it takes too long just.... ok let me stop now as this is really pointless reasoning with you..

Gooshin · 10-09-2008, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by Torphoto

Rice dude you have just placed your self in the "ignore any statement this person makes" category, permanently! to come in here and say there is no point in shooting raw on a 5D the jpgs are good enough! Trust me I have shot with the 5D and the raw makes a difference and any true photographer worth their salt knows this, to say otherwise and claim it takes too long just.... ok let me stop now as this is really pointless reasoning with you..

actualy if you have a camera that meters and white balances correctly, and you are not planning on cropping, re-framing, or running your image through photoshop or digital filters, there truly is no point in shooting RAW (unless you want that extra dynamic range in super bright or super dark conditions)

i shoot raw because rarely do i nail the exposure correctly, blame the camera or blame me, i dont know, i'm still working on that, RAW allows me save alot of otherwise throw away images.

also i like to screw around with my pictures alot, running them through different conversions for fun, so i need RAW for that.

this post is not about RAW vs jpeg, that was simply my personal question to RH.

this post is about using a 5D and pentax glass.

i suggest you keep RH bashing and bandwaggoning to a minimum here.

k100d · 10-09-2008, 11:43 AM

i too am glad that you're taking pictures and they seemed to turn out pretty well. i liked your dragonboat set too, it looked better than the ones that I had tried to take before. but w/ dragonboat, i didn't have a problem with AF-C with the AF point left of center and then snapping away.

i think sometimes the criticism you get is undue, but othertimes your criticism of the AF is too much. but your main gripe about AF performance is definitely justified. i just shot a roll with my MZ-5n and it's much snappier than my K100D. i hope a Kx0D body can solve that problem but i'm waiting to see what Pentax is offering in the K3? series

however stuff like this from Don Allison on dpr who was one of the staunchest critics of the K10D af saying that the K20D is great does show great promise
OMG....Was I WRONG???? ...has the AF improved with the K20D: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

RiceHigh · 10-09-2008, 10:48 PM

Originally posted by k100d

i too am glad that you're taking pictures and they seemed to turn out pretty well. i liked your dragonboat set too, it looked better than the ones that I had tried to take before.

Thanks.

Quote:

i think sometimes the criticism you get is undue, but othertimes your criticism of the AF is too much. but your main gripe about AF performance is definitely justified. i just shot a roll with my MZ-5n and it's much snappier than my K100D. i hope a Kx0D body can solve that problem but i'm waiting to see what Pentax is offering in the K3? series

Another thing: My experience with the K10D's continuous AF simply won't work with continuous frame shooting mode. The C-AF only did once and then the camera fries off continously at 3 fps OR if Single AF is chosen, it focuses and re-focus per frame but then the frame rate is much lower then. But, why not C-AF and Continuous frames advance at the *same* time?

10-09-2008, 09:03 AM	#1
RiceHigh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,934	Full Frame Fisheye Zoom F and 43 Limited on K5D (Sample Photos) I have posted 42 large size (2048 x 1365) sample photos at my following photo gallery:- RiceHigh/FF Fisheye and 43 Limited on 5D - Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting With full remarks and explanations on the shooting settings, conditions, field performance and accuracies of the system and the final attained image quality etc. in below:- RiceHigh's Pentax Blog: Sample Photos of Full Frame Fisheye and 43 Limited on 5D Enjoy! and happy measurebations (just in case! ;-)) I hope my samples, information and experiences shared could be useful and serve as a good reference to all you folks who have a (Pentax) Full Frame dream!

10-09-2008, 10:42 AM	#3
RiceHigh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,934 Original Poster	Simple reasons. Originally posted by Gooshin curious why you decided to shoot jpeg, mainly because as a measurebator you would want to measure the best, no? The direct jpeg output quality of the 5D is actually very high already. Furthermore, the camera is quite accurate and reliable in metering so that no post processing (raw conversion) is required to rectify the errors. The colour balance is not always "the white is better" but it usually matches my eyes well for the ambient scenes, so one less reasons to shoot RAW. Also, I know what manual WB to be chosen from if I just wanted the desired effect. RAW conversion is time-consuming and troublesome IMHO. I used to sit in front of the PC to correct errors and rectify problem and then wait the computer to preview, calculate and output and then save, which is a process that can be avoided if it is possible (and with my 5D, it is possible!). With saving both time and storage, I think it worths (as long as it works!).

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10-09-2008, 10:36 AM	#2
Gooshin Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, the one in Canada. Posts: 5,610	curious why you decided to shoot jpeg, mainly because as a measurebator you would want to measure the best, no?

10-09-2008, 11:00 AM	#4
Gooshin Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, the one in Canada. Posts: 5,610	next question, reading your words i am to assume that you modified your 5d to allow for kmount lenses or did you simply follow steven's guide and modified the lenses to fit an eos mount? also, as i can barely muster some japanese, traditional chinese is way beyond me, is there an english version of those texts somewhere?

10-09-2008, 11:19 AM	#5
Torphoto Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Trinidad W.I. Photos: Gallery Posts: 612	Originally posted by RiceHigh The direct jpeg output quality of the 5D is actually very high already. Furthermore, the camera is quite accurate and reliable in metering so that no post processing (raw conversion) is required to rectify the errors. The colour balance is not always "the white is better" but it usually matches my eyes well for the ambient scenes, so one less reasons to shoot RAW. Also, I know what manual WB to be chosen from if I just wanted the desired effect. RAW conversion is time-consuming and troublesome IMHO. I used to sit in front of the PC to correct errors and rectify problem and then wait the computer to preview, calculate and output and then save, which is a process that can be avoided if it is possible (and with my 5D, it is possible!). With saving both time and storage, I think it worths (as long as it works!). Rice dude you have just placed your self in the "ignore any statement this person makes" category, permanently! to come in here and say there is no point in shooting raw on a 5D the jpgs are good enough! Trust me I have shot with the 5D and the raw makes a difference and any true photographer worth their salt knows this, to say otherwise and claim it takes too long just.... ok let me stop now as this is really pointless reasoning with you..

10-09-2008, 11:24 AM	#6
Gooshin Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, the one in Canada. Posts: 5,610	Originally posted by Torphoto Rice dude you have just placed your self in the "ignore any statement this person makes" category, permanently! to come in here and say there is no point in shooting raw on a 5D the jpgs are good enough! Trust me I have shot with the 5D and the raw makes a difference and any true photographer worth their salt knows this, to say otherwise and claim it takes too long just.... ok let me stop now as this is really pointless reasoning with you.. actualy if you have a camera that meters and white balances correctly, and you are not planning on cropping, re-framing, or running your image through photoshop or digital filters, there truly is no point in shooting RAW (unless you want that extra dynamic range in super bright or super dark conditions) i shoot raw because rarely do i nail the exposure correctly, blame the camera or blame me, i dont know, i'm still working on that, RAW allows me save alot of otherwise throw away images. also i like to screw around with my pictures alot, running them through different conversions for fun, so i need RAW for that. this post is not about RAW vs jpeg, that was simply my personal question to RH. this post is about using a 5D and pentax glass. i suggest you keep RH bashing and bandwaggoning to a minimum here.

10-09-2008, 11:43 AM	#7
k100d Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,911	i too am glad that you're taking pictures and they seemed to turn out pretty well. i liked your dragonboat set too, it looked better than the ones that I had tried to take before. but w/ dragonboat, i didn't have a problem with AF-C with the AF point left of center and then snapping away. i think sometimes the criticism you get is undue, but othertimes your criticism of the AF is too much. but your main gripe about AF performance is definitely justified. i just shot a roll with my MZ-5n and it's much snappier than my K100D. i hope a Kx0D body can solve that problem but i'm waiting to see what Pentax is offering in the K3? series however stuff like this from Don Allison on dpr who was one of the staunchest critics of the K10D af saying that the K20D is great does show great promise OMG....Was I WRONG???? ...has the AF improved with the K20D: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

10-09-2008, 10:48 PM	#8
RiceHigh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,934 Original Poster	Originally posted by k100d i too am glad that you're taking pictures and they seemed to turn out pretty well. i liked your dragonboat set too, it looked better than the ones that I had tried to take before. Thanks. Quote: i think sometimes the criticism you get is undue, but othertimes your criticism of the AF is too much. but your main gripe about AF performance is definitely justified. i just shot a roll with my MZ-5n and it's much snappier than my K100D. i hope a Kx0D body can solve that problem but i'm waiting to see what Pentax is offering in the K3? series Another thing: My experience with the K10D's continuous AF simply won't work with continuous frame shooting mode. The C-AF only did once and then the camera fries off continously at 3 fps OR if Single AF is chosen, it focuses and re-focus per frame but then the frame rate is much lower then. But, why not C-AF and Continuous frames advance at the same time?

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