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Billk · 07-03-2019, 04:10 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by biz-engineer

DFA85 will come this year or next year. We saw of plastic molded version at CP+.

No you don't. If you need such lens shortly, you can get a used Pentax FA*85, or Pentax FA77 and resell it almost the same price to finance the new D-FA*85 when it'll be available.

Nobody in their right mind sells a 77. Apart from not focussing quickly enough to be a great dance lens, it is perfect.

That said, I;m hanging out for the DFA 85mm.

TerryL · 07-03-2019, 05:44 AM

Originally posted by normhead

The Nikon started at $2000, but it's couple years old now.

What are you planning to use it for?
What's the rush?

I want the lens for portraits of my two Sons, before they leave for college, and my Granddaughter, when she's born next month.

---------- Post added 07-03-19 at 05:50 AM ----------

Originally posted by biz-engineer

DFA85 will come this year or next year. We saw of plastic molded version at CP+.

No you don't. If you need such lens shortly, you can get a used Pentax FA*85, or Pentax FA77 and resell it almost the same price to finance the new D-FA*85 when it'll be available.

I saw some pictures done with the FA 85mm, and they were beautiful!

normhead · 07-03-2019, 05:53 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by TerryL

I want the lens for portraits of my two Sons, before they leave for college, and my Granddaughter, when she's born next month.

Oh ya, definitely special use consideration, but you can buy great portrait lenses for a fraction of what an 85 1.4 will cost. Congratulations on the big events. And honestly, for portraits, the new 50 1.4 while great at wide aperture edge to edge , for portraits is probably really no better than one of the older lenses, as edge sharpness is usually wasted on portraits where the subject is close to the centre of the frame and edges are soft and out of focus, no matter what lens you use.

Quote:

I saw some pictures done with the FA 85mm, and they were beautiful!

Hows you portrait technique?

LeRolls has posted lots of beautiful FA 85 1.4 images, but I can't take images like that.

**cdd29** · 07-03-2019, 06:00 AM

Tamron has a 90mm, think it's F/2.8. Older versions are available in K mount, not the new version unfortunately.

normhead · 07-03-2019, 06:03 AM

Originally posted by cdd29

Tamron has a 90mm, think it's F/2.8. Older versions are available in K mount, not the new version unfortunately.

The Sigma 70 macro is my favourite APS-c portrait lens. But I haven't had chance to use my DA* 55 1.4 yet. I just don't get many portrait opportunities.

Hey Tony, those pictures you liked, cut those out for reference. The only time I look at reference images would be portraits and weddings.

pschlute · 07-03-2019, 06:39 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by TerryL

I want the lens for portraits of my two Sons, before they leave for college, and my Granddaughter, when she's born next month.

Then you need to get the 77mm Ltd to cover those events. The new DFA 85mm won't be out that quickly !

If you can snap up a FA* 85mm 1.4 immediately I would go for that in preference to the 77mm Ltd.

Darkover · 07-03-2019, 08:57 AM

I would think about buying the DFA* 50/1.4 and crop the pictures a little. I did this last weekend and can't still believe the quality. With the enormous pixel of the K1 it is easy to crop a 4k picture and that is more than I need.

I am a huge fan of 85mm (and an owner of a 85/1.8) but with the new DFA* I will use the 85 very seldom.

At the moment I am thinking if I should by the new 35mm oder FA31, sigh.

Olaf

pschlute · 07-03-2019, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by Darkover

At the moment I am thinking if I should by the new 35mm oder FA31, sigh

Oh come on Olaf, call yourself a Pentaxian !!! Get both

Darkover · 07-03-2019, 09:51 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by pschlute

Oh come on Olaf, call yourself a Pentaxian !!! Get both

Nah...I will visit mapcamera in Tokyo soon and will check if they have both of them in good-used-condition and compare them.
But I fear I will go with the 31, because it has the better look&feel, sigh.

Olaf

pschlute · 07-03-2019, 01:10 PM

The 31mm Ltd is the most special of the Ltd's in my opinion.

disconnekt · 07-03-2019, 02:24 PM

If you want a brand-new-in-store "Name brand" 85mm with AF, Pentax's 85 is coming out this year or sometime next.

Nothing wrong with 3rd party lenses, with new 3rd Party being found easily (though manual focus only) online for ~$200 for the Matikon 85mm f2, ~$250 for the Samyang/Rokinon 85mm f1.4, and ~$500 for Lensbaby Velvet 85mm f1.8.

For older lenses with & without AF, yiu're going to paying ~$200 bucks and up either way.

RonHendriks1966 · 07-03-2019, 02:41 PM

Well expect it next year and not this one.

**clackers** · 07-03-2019, 03:18 PM - **1 Like**

Not trying to talk you out of 77/85, Terry, but when the subjects are your own family you can shoot from distances so close they'd upset a stranger.

Your DFA 50 is perfect for head and shoulders portraits still further away than kids shoot each other today with phones.

Kaisas · 07-03-2019, 07:27 PM

I just wanna see more prime lenses options from pentax, because you know that third part lens brands stop producing lenses for Pentax. We have just pentax options for modern lenses. Pentax makes good quality lenses but the process takes forever, they r so slow...

pschlute · 07-04-2019, 12:57 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Kaisas

Pentax makes good quality lenses but the process takes forever, they r so slow.

....and you know that is not going to change.

07-03-2019, 05:53 AM - 2 Likes	#18
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by TerryL I want the lens for portraits of my two Sons, before they leave for college, and my Granddaughter, when she's born next month. Oh ya, definitely special use consideration, but you can buy great portrait lenses for a fraction of what an 85 1.4 will cost. Congratulations on the big events. And honestly, for portraits, the new 50 1.4 while great at wide aperture edge to edge , for portraits is probably really no better than one of the older lenses, as edge sharpness is usually wasted on portraits where the subject is close to the centre of the frame and edges are soft and out of focus, no matter what lens you use. Quote: I saw some pictures done with the FA 85mm, and they were beautiful! Hows you portrait technique? LeRolls has posted lots of beautiful FA 85 1.4 images, but I can't take images like that. Last edited by normhead; 07-03-2019 at 06:01 AM.

07-03-2019, 06:03 AM	#20
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by cdd29 Tamron has a 90mm, think it's F/2.8. Older versions are available in K mount, not the new version unfortunately. The Sigma 70 macro is my favourite APS-c portrait lens. But I haven't had chance to use my DA* 55 1.4 yet. I just don't get many portrait opportunities. Hey Tony, those pictures you liked, cut those out for reference. The only time I look at reference images would be portraits and weddings. Last edited by normhead; 07-03-2019 at 09:59 AM.

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07-03-2019, 04:10 AM - 1 Like	#16
Billk Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Posts: 349	Originally posted by biz-engineer DFA85 will come this year or next year. We saw of plastic molded version at CP+. No you don't. If you need such lens shortly, you can get a used Pentax FA85, or Pentax FA77 and resell it almost the same price to finance the new D-FA85 when it'll be available. Nobody in their right mind sells a 77. Apart from not focussing quickly enough to be a great dance lens, it is perfect. That said, I;m hanging out for the DFA 85mm.

07-03-2019, 05:44 AM	#17
TerryL Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Virginia, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 850 Original Poster	Originally posted by normhead The Nikon started at $2000, but it's couple years old now. What are you planning to use it for? What's the rush? I want the lens for portraits of my two Sons, before they leave for college, and my Granddaughter, when she's born next month. ---------- Post added 07-03-19 at 05:50 AM ---------- Originally posted by biz-engineer DFA85 will come this year or next year. We saw of plastic molded version at CP+. No you don't. If you need such lens shortly, you can get a used Pentax FA85, or Pentax FA77 and resell it almost the same price to finance the new D-FA85 when it'll be available. I saw some pictures done with the FA 85mm, and they were beautiful!

07-03-2019, 06:00 AM	#19
cdd29 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Southern Indiana Photos: Gallery Posts: 963	Tamron has a 90mm, think it's F/2.8. Older versions are available in K mount, not the new version unfortunately.

07-03-2019, 06:39 AM - 1 Like	#21
pschlute Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Surrey, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,219	Originally posted by TerryL I want the lens for portraits of my two Sons, before they leave for college, and my Granddaughter, when she's born next month. Then you need to get the 77mm Ltd to cover those events. The new DFA 85mm won't be out that quickly ! If you can snap up a FA* 85mm 1.4 immediately I would go for that in preference to the 77mm Ltd.

07-03-2019, 08:57 AM	#22
Darkover Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 76	I would think about buying the DFA* 50/1.4 and crop the pictures a little. I did this last weekend and can't still believe the quality. With the enormous pixel of the K1 it is easy to crop a 4k picture and that is more than I need. I am a huge fan of 85mm (and an owner of a 85/1.8) but with the new DFA* I will use the 85 very seldom. At the moment I am thinking if I should by the new 35mm oder FA31, sigh. Olaf

07-03-2019, 09:29 AM	#23
pschlute Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Surrey, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,219	Originally posted by Darkover At the moment I am thinking if I should by the new 35mm oder FA31, sigh Oh come on Olaf, call yourself a Pentaxian !!! Get both

07-03-2019, 09:51 AM - 1 Like	#24
Darkover Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 76	Originally posted by pschlute Oh come on Olaf, call yourself a Pentaxian !!! Get both Nah...I will visit mapcamera in Tokyo soon and will check if they have both of them in good-used-condition and compare them. But I fear I will go with the 31, because it has the better look&feel, sigh. Olaf

07-03-2019, 01:10 PM	#25
pschlute Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Surrey, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,219	The 31mm Ltd is the most special of the Ltd's in my opinion.

07-03-2019, 02:24 PM	#26
disconnekt Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: SoCal/I.E. Photos: Albums Posts: 1,702	If you want a brand-new-in-store "Name brand" 85mm with AF, Pentax's 85 is coming out this year or sometime next. Nothing wrong with 3rd party lenses, with new 3rd Party being found easily (though manual focus only) online for ~$200 for the Matikon 85mm f2, ~$250 for the Samyang/Rokinon 85mm f1.4, and ~$500 for Lensbaby Velvet 85mm f1.8. For older lenses with & without AF, yiu're going to paying ~$200 bucks and up either way.

07-03-2019, 02:41 PM	#27
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Well expect it next year and not this one.

07-03-2019, 03:18 PM - 1 Like	#28
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Not trying to talk you out of 77/85, Terry, but when the subjects are your own family you can shoot from distances so close they'd upset a stranger. Your DFA 50 is perfect for head and shoulders portraits still further away than kids shoot each other today with phones.

07-03-2019, 07:27 PM	#29
Kaisas Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 121	I just wanna see more prime lenses options from pentax, because you know that third part lens brands stop producing lenses for Pentax. We have just pentax options for modern lenses. Pentax makes good quality lenses but the process takes forever, they r so slow...

07-04-2019, 12:57 AM - 1 Like	#30
pschlute Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Surrey, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,219	Originally posted by Kaisas Pentax makes good quality lenses but the process takes forever, they r so slow. ....and you know that is not going to change.

Fast 85mm lens?

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