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10-15-2019, 03:54 AM   #1
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Help me trigger LBA symptoms

Hello,

I have the current selection of lenses :
- DA 10-17 Fisheye
- Sigma 10-20 f/3.5
- DA-L 18-50
- DA 35 f/2.4 (Plastic Fantastic)
- DA 50 f/1.8 (Other Plastic Fantastic)
- Tamron 18-250 f/3.5-6.3
- Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6

Body is K-S2.


I am considering buying another lens. But what should I buy, considering the following criteria :
1) I would like to avoid obsoleting any lens I already have ; it should complement the kit rather than replacing part of it
2) I am budget limited (<= 400 euros)
3) I prefer to buy new rather than used equipment whenever possible

I shoot often landscapes (preferred subject), but I also do animals (mostly pet, but wild ones would be good if I come across some), kids, portraits and night sky.


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10-15-2019, 04:04 AM   #2
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A used 16-50 gets you a nice WR normal lens and a huge upgrade in the normal zoom. Another choice is the 16-85. If you don’t value WR, the Sigma 17-50 or 17-70 get my vote. The decision is range vs f2.8.

Your long end would be improved by the 55-300 PLM.

Or you could try something fun like a Helios.
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Or maybe a limited? I use them almost exclusively - the 15 is my most used lens by far. If you shoot a lot of portraits, you should take a look at the 70 limited (the one that is missing in my lineup).
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good suggestions but I would go with a prime that is a good short telephoto and capable of a 1:1 maco

one of the Pentax 100 F2.8 macro family:


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https://www.pentaxforums.com/lenssearch/?minap=2.8&maxap=2.8&minfl=100&maxfl...archname=macro


the F, FA, D FA 100 F2.8 Macros all share the same optics and are full frame capable should the OP move to a K 1 or K 1 II in the future

the newest, WR, has different aperture blades and WR


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however without going over budget, the OP would have to go for an " experienced " lens

[ however that flaw exists with some of other recommendations made by other posters ]


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Wow, you have quite a lot covered there. I'd second the macro idea; it's the main thing you're missing I think. Although I would think about the 35 mm macro (and maybe sell your plastik fantastik, even though I know you said you didn't want to do that). I had and sold a 105 mm macro in favor of the 35. Much easier to shoot closeups handheld, and very versatile as a landscape and nature lens.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Sir Nameless Quote
. . . I'd second the macro idea; it's the main thing you're missing I think. Although I would think about the 35 mm macro. . . . I had and sold a 105 mm macro in favor of the 35. Much easier to shoot closeups handheld, and very versatile as a landscape and nature lens.

generally speaking the focal length of a 1:1 macro lens limits how close you need to get to your " target " to achieve 1:1

the shorter the focal length - 35mm or 50mm, the closer you must be

depending on where and what you target, that can make a big difference

my limited macro photography is " in the field " and thus I like my D FA 100mm F2.8 Macro ( non WR ) over a 35 or 50 mm macro prime lens and neither of those choices gives you a short telephoto
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You ‘need’ a short tele 🤓. DA70 or 100mm macro can be had for around 300 euros (used though). Great for candid portraits, soccer matches and landscapes

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QuoteOriginally posted by robiles Quote
Or maybe a limited? I use them almost exclusively - the 15 is my most used lens by far. If you shoot a lot of portraits, you should take a look at the 70 limited (the one that is missing in my lineup).
limiteds are great

but getting one is known to create great LBA to get more:

the limiteds do they live up to the reputation and why - Page 17 - PentaxForums.com
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QuoteOriginally posted by aslyfox Quote
but getting one is known to create great LBA to get more
You're not kidding. Ever since getting my 35 I've found myself wanting a 70. And a 21 or 15 (or both). And a 40 (even though I already have a 35). They're evil. Pure evil.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Sir Nameless Quote
You're not kidding. Ever since getting my 35 I've found myself wanting a 70. And a 21 or 15 (or both). And a 40 (even though I already have a 35). They're evil. Pure evil.
I now have all of the DA Limited primes ( even though I already had the 40mm XS )

[ bought through the forum's market place - my wife has been very good to me ]

and rented the DA Limited zoom

what the future holds, who knows

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I would say that the 18-250 already more or less obsoletes the 18-50. That said, within your restrictions I am not sure what to say. There's... basically nothing. If you are willing to buy used, then a 90 (Tamron) or 100 (Pentax) mm macro would be a logical choice as several people have mentioned.
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You're lacking WR and a macro lens. So there's that. However, do you NEED WR or macro? I know I do, but to each his own. Otherwise, your kit covers a lot of bases.
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QuoteOriginally posted by bdery Quote
You're lacking WR and a macro lens. So there's that. However, do you NEED WR or macro? I know I do, but to each his own. Otherwise, your kit covers a lot of bases.
The DA-L 18-50 is WR. I thought about the original 18-55 kit lens as well, that's why I mentioned the 18-250 obsoleting it . I mean, it still does in terms of picture-taking, but it's not WR.
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Help, trigger? You want someone to fuel your LBA? OK, I'll try. For a start, you only have seven lenses. That is total rookie territory
when it comes to LBA. I have DOZENS and still want more. Some own HUNDREDS and want more. If you are serious about your
LBA then you should be gobbling up any lens you can, including duplicates of lenses you like and odd, obsolete mounts in the hope
they might some day be adapted.......

Oh wait, you have requirements.

1) Hmmm, you have the FL range pretty well covered from 10-300mm.
2) Budgets do cramp LBA
3) That will definitely limit choices

Truthfully, you have few options that meet all three requirements. There is the DA560, but it is way over budget.
There is the DFA150-450, but it too is way over budget.

What sort of images do you like to take? Portraits, street scenes, intimate wildlife scenes (flowers and things in the garden), skittish wild
life scenes (things that run away like birds and antelope), big wide landscapes, carefully arranged still life, the moon........
Having some idea what kind of images you like to take can inform a good recommendation.

Do you ever use your DA35 or DA50? Do you enjoy their petite size or do you find their lack of zoom limiting? Adding a prime
at a focal length you use frequently might be a good choice. The suggestion above for adding a macro lens is another good
choice. Allowing for second hand lenses will greatly expand your choices, otherwise you will be restricted to generalist zooms
and only a handful of primes.
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Maybe you should start questionning what you can not do with what you have in hands Bertrand.
If you are already satisfied and have no interest in macro photography then it is maybe better to keep your money for a later upgrade of Ks2?
I would personally dump tamrons and buy a better quality zoon such as 60-250, or 55-300 PLM as somebody else suggested (not sure PLM is supported by Ks2 so you will have to check and maybe pick 55-300 HD WR instead). Another possible upgrage is to dump 18-50 and get a 16-85 instead.
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