Originally posted by TER-OR I'd like to evaluate the 150-450 at some point. Maybe next spring I'll rent one during warbler migration. The zoom does let one find the subject then isolate it. The little warblers rarely sit still. The DA300 I have is fantastic though, even on my secondary body, the K5.
Yes, the time to achieve focus with birds that refuse to stay still was one of my key reasons for getting the DFA 150-450. I considered getting a Canikon just for different options for a telephoto lens. You really should try the DFA.
Originally posted by SteveinSLC I've had most of the options in this range, and pretty much come to the same conclusion. The 300 is an excellent lens, but the optical quality doesn't matter if it can't get the focus right. The 150-450 is pretty much just as good at 300, plus faster focusing and zoom flexibility(though it's larger). The 60-250 I had seemed good, but not great optically, and was very slow on the focusing. The DFA* 70-200 was A LOT better on both fronts, though much more expensive, heavy, and larger. Even the Tamron 70-200 seems better than the 60-250. The 55-300PLM is night and day faster focusing, surprisingly good optically, and much smaller and lighter.
Agreed - at least with respect to the lenses I have experienced.
Originally posted by aslyfox If I had to choose one of the three to get rid of
it would be the prime
what do you folks think
what do you think of the IQ between the choices
I always have to temper my own experiences with the knowledge that my equipment operates with a big problem from the start
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I'm happy with the DFA 150-450 and HDDA 55-300. The resolution of the DFA lens seems higher than the DA*300 and higher than the K3 can capture. The DA*300 has that "pixie dust" aspect about how it treats the light, but the DFA lens is more useful for me.
Originally posted by BigMackCam The DA*300 is a fantastic lens, no doubt about it, but I understand your decision.
I'm using my DA*60-250 less and less these days, favouring the screw-drive HD DA55-300 whenever natural light allows. The DA* is a better lens optically, but the size, weight, focus breathing and - to a lesser extent, admittedly - slower focusing discourage me from using it as much as I'd like. The HD DA55-300 trades constant aperture and a bit of image quality for its compact dimensions and light weight, but I've found I'm OK with those compromises most of the time. It's easily sharp enough when used sensibly, it renders nicely, and it's just so convenient to carry around...
Similarly I travel with the HDDA 55-300 PLM which is even lighter and more compact than my older DA 55-300.
Originally posted by jacamar I'm happy with the way my DA* 300 is performing at the moment, but if there is to be a re-do it should also include an improvement to those fragile electrical contact tabs (and the ones on the 1.4x TC as well). I don't think I'm clumsy when changing lenses but they get bent out or, worse, broken from time to time.
Fingers crossed I haven't has any issues with this so far. Since getting the DFA 150-450 I haven't used the TC much, because the field of view becomes very small and the lens hard to hand-hold without blur.
Originally posted by UncleVanya You might try converting to screw drive. I've seen other lenses show improvements in focusing behaviors particularly failure to lock. This isn't universally true, but when a copy of an SDM lens has issues the other copies are not known for, I suggest a conversion to test it the problem can be rectified in this way.
If you have the know how and an appropriate older body you can convert the lens back and forth to test.
Fair enough!
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Originally posted by ChristianRock If one has the 150-450mm and doesn't mind the size and weight, it can hang in there because 300mm is right in the middle of the range of the zoom and it should perform flawlessly there. It loses in terms of aperture though, I think it's f5 a 300mm? You lose 2/3 of a stop which might be important for some.
I find that the DFA 150450 has a huge amount of shadow detail where the HDDA 55-300 doesn't. The lens being a bit slower means higher ISO settings, but I haven't found it to be too much of a problem.
Originally posted by zapp Don’t even think about upgrades. Think about additional options first. The da 300 is still worthwhile. A ff converter 1.4x/2x would be needed. A 2.8/300 could be more useful.... sold my da 300 and I am not yet convinced how to continue.
A faster prime would be nice but I can't see it happening.
Originally posted by barondla I'm using the DA*300 a lot. Also have the original Pentax 55-300 zoom for times when zooming & compactness is desirable. I find a fairly big gap between the two lenses in image quality. Is the 55-300 PLM optically better than the original 55-300? Know the PLM auto focuses faster.
The HDDA 55-300 PLM seems to be at least optically equivalent to the DA 55-300 if not better, but the variation between copies may be significant too. When I found out how good the optical quality of the PLM was, I also stopped using my older DA 55-300.