If Pentax would be discontinued, would prices go up or down?

VSTAR · 12-23-2019, 07:02 PM

Originally posted by Wasp

I doubt that prices of any existing Pentax products would go up if Ricoh closed up the shop. The unthinkable would happen because of low demand. Why would demand go up afterwards to drive up prices?

I have an NX1 that has issues with the mechanical shutter. I got it at a rock bottom price with the 16-50/2-2.8 and 50-150/2.8 lenses. I am looking for a second body in good shape but I only see crazy prices. Will the same thing happen to Pentax? It could happen...

Samsung nx is a weird one...how many people do you know who have one, know about it, or want one? Yet one of the most positive rated mirrorless by reviewers. Ebay prices don't go down unless it is a parts camera. If you are looking for one...remember this is CDN dollars..so it is like they are giving it away for free!!!
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Not sure what would happen to Pentax prices if there was no more supply.

**luftfluss** · 12-23-2019, 08:41 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by biz-engineer

A couple years ago, while I was shopping for Pentax, I asked the seller in case Pentax would go bust, if prices would go down. He said that prices would go up because collectors would start buying user Pentax cameras/lenses as collector items and to resell them later at a higher price. Just wondering

, if Pentax would go bust, will prices go up or down?. It's an interesting question. If prices go down, it's worth waiting to enjoy buying excellent Pentax products for cheap. If prices go up, than the better strategy is to buy now.

It's an interesting thought exercise.

I say put a Pentax lens - perhaps the D FA* 50/1.4 - in a steel box and wait for the Pentax brand to go bust.

Is the D FA* 50/1.4 then worth more, or less... or both?

HoutHans · 12-24-2019, 03:33 AM

Originally posted by luftfluss

It's an interesting thought exercise.

I say put a Pentax lens - perhaps the D FA* 50/1.4 - in a steel box and wait for the Pentax brand to go bust.

Is the D FA* 50/1.4 then worth more, or less... or both?

You could draw on the experience with cars. Just check the price for which a fairly luxurious car (the most likely analogy to a Pentax lens) was sold, then assume that in - say - fifty years only x% of those lenses survive (just as only x% of these cars survived) and that's how you find out that there is this unpredictability about the desirability of something after fifty years.

I'd just use the money to pay the mortgage and allow the kids to study. Seems a more sensible investment.

If you do put a lens in a steel box and wait for an unpredictable event, make sure that there is plenty of desiccant in there so there's no chance of fungus or anything.

**StiffLegged** · 12-24-2019, 08:26 AM

Originally posted by biz-engineer

A couple years ago, while I was shopping for Pentax, I asked the seller in case Pentax would go bust, if prices would go down. He said...

I wouldn’t speculate today on the basis of two year old information.

tvdtvdtvd · 12-24-2019, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by boriscleto

It still shows up in Latest Threads...and 44 posts to go...

It does seem a perfectly cromulent thread to dump posts into.

Wasp · 12-24-2019, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by HoutHans

You could draw on the experience with cars. Just check the price for which a fairly luxurious car (the most likely analogy to a Pentax lens) was sold, then assume that in - say - fifty years only x% of those lenses survive (just as only x% of these cars survived) and that's how you find out that there is this unpredictability about the desirability of something after fifty years.

I'd just use the money to pay the mortgage and allow the kids to study. Seems a more sensible investment.

If you do put a lens in a steel box and wait for an unpredictable event, make sure that there is plenty of desiccant in there so there's no chance of fungus or anything.

Just be sure to keep the box and packaging. Even better, do not even take it out of the box or use it. It will be worth more if it's new in box.

automorphism · 12-24-2019, 01:56 PM

The price of new DSLRs from places like B&H would go down for sure. Fewer people would want to buy into Pentax if it doesn't even exist as a company. The price of manual lenses would be about the same since they can be used on existing Pentax cameras and all the new mirrorless cameras. The new lenses would go down probably also.

**buberfan** · 12-26-2019, 09:53 PM

As one of the worst offenders when it comes to LBA, I'm going to guess that some part of you is looking for an excuse to buy more lenses.

So I'd like to enable your desires by telling you that prices are sure to go up if Pentax goes under. So best invest in all the lenses you might want right now, while the prices are still low. In fact probably best to get some spares as well. You won't regret it!

Wasp · 12-27-2019, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by tvdtvdtvd

It does seem a perfectly cromulent thread to dump posts into.

I had to look that up.

cromulent - Wiktionary

tvdtvdtvd · 12-27-2019, 11:28 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Wasp

I had to look that up.

cromulent - Wiktionary

The Simpsons embiggen us all.

Wasp · 12-27-2019, 12:14 PM

Originally posted by tvdtvdtvd

The Simpsons embiggen us all.

That sounds unpossible, but I have to agree with you.

12-24-2019, 03:33 AM	#48
HoutHans Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Appingedam Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,119	Originally posted by luftfluss It's an interesting thought exercise. I say put a Pentax lens - perhaps the D FA* 50/1.4 - in a steel box and wait for the Pentax brand to go bust. Is the D FA* 50/1.4 then worth more, or less... or both? You could draw on the experience with cars. Just check the price for which a fairly luxurious car (the most likely analogy to a Pentax lens) was sold, then assume that in - say - fifty years only x% of those lenses survive (just as only x% of these cars survived) and that's how you find out that there is this unpredictability about the desirability of something after fifty years. I'd just use the money to pay the mortgage and allow the kids to study. Seems a more sensible investment. If you do put a lens in a steel box and wait for an unpredictable event, make sure that there is plenty of desiccant in there so there's no chance of fungus or anything. Last edited by HoutHans; 12-24-2019 at 03:33 AM. Reason: typo corrected

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12-23-2019, 07:02 PM	#46
VSTAR Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Toronto Posts: 390	Originally posted by Wasp I doubt that prices of any existing Pentax products would go up if Ricoh closed up the shop. The unthinkable would happen because of low demand. Why would demand go up afterwards to drive up prices? I have an NX1 that has issues with the mechanical shutter. I got it at a rock bottom price with the 16-50/2-2.8 and 50-150/2.8 lenses. I am looking for a second body in good shape but I only see crazy prices. Will the same thing happen to Pentax? It could happen... Samsung nx is a weird one...how many people do you know who have one, know about it, or want one? Yet one of the most positive rated mirrorless by reviewers. Ebay prices don't go down unless it is a parts camera. If you are looking for one...remember this is CDN dollars..so it is like they are giving it away for free!!! ($950) Samsung NX1 mirrorless camera 4k video with 50-200mm \| Cameras & Camcorders \| Edmonton \| Kijiji Not sure what would happen to Pentax prices if there was no more supply.

12-23-2019, 08:41 PM - 2 Likes	#47
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,619	Originally posted by biz-engineer A couple years ago, while I was shopping for Pentax, I asked the seller in case Pentax would go bust, if prices would go down. He said that prices would go up because collectors would start buying user Pentax cameras/lenses as collector items and to resell them later at a higher price. Just wondering , if Pentax would go bust, will prices go up or down?. It's an interesting question. If prices go down, it's worth waiting to enjoy buying excellent Pentax products for cheap. If prices go up, than the better strategy is to buy now. It's an interesting thought exercise. I say put a Pentax lens - perhaps the D FA* 50/1.4 - in a steel box and wait for the Pentax brand to go bust. Is the D FA* 50/1.4 then worth more, or less... or both?

12-24-2019, 08:26 AM	#49
StiffLegged Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2018 Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,620	Originally posted by biz-engineer A couple years ago, while I was shopping for Pentax, I asked the seller in case Pentax would go bust, if prices would go down. He said... I wouldn’t speculate today on the basis of two year old information.

12-24-2019, 09:51 AM	#50
tvdtvdtvd Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,665	Originally posted by boriscleto It still shows up in Latest Threads...and 44 posts to go... It does seem a perfectly cromulent thread to dump posts into.

12-24-2019, 10:00 AM	#51
Wasp Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Pretoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,661	Originally posted by HoutHans You could draw on the experience with cars. Just check the price for which a fairly luxurious car (the most likely analogy to a Pentax lens) was sold, then assume that in - say - fifty years only x% of those lenses survive (just as only x% of these cars survived) and that's how you find out that there is this unpredictability about the desirability of something after fifty years. I'd just use the money to pay the mortgage and allow the kids to study. Seems a more sensible investment. If you do put a lens in a steel box and wait for an unpredictable event, make sure that there is plenty of desiccant in there so there's no chance of fungus or anything. Just be sure to keep the box and packaging. Even better, do not even take it out of the box or use it. It will be worth more if it's new in box.

12-24-2019, 01:56 PM	#52
automorphism Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Ontario, Canada Photos: Albums Posts: 791	The price of new DSLRs from places like B&H would go down for sure. Fewer people would want to buy into Pentax if it doesn't even exist as a company. The price of manual lenses would be about the same since they can be used on existing Pentax cameras and all the new mirrorless cameras. The new lenses would go down probably also.

12-26-2019, 09:53 PM	#53
buberfan Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Maclean, NSW Posts: 95	As one of the worst offenders when it comes to LBA, I'm going to guess that some part of you is looking for an excuse to buy more lenses. So I'd like to enable your desires by telling you that prices are sure to go up if Pentax goes under. So best invest in all the lenses you might want right now, while the prices are still low. In fact probably best to get some spares as well. You won't regret it!

12-27-2019, 11:23 AM	#54
Wasp Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Pretoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,661	Originally posted by tvdtvdtvd It does seem a perfectly cromulent thread to dump posts into. I had to look that up. cromulent - Wiktionary

12-27-2019, 11:28 AM - 1 Like	#55
tvdtvdtvd Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,665	Originally posted by Wasp I had to look that up. cromulent - Wiktionary The Simpsons embiggen us all.

12-27-2019, 12:14 PM	#56
Wasp Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Pretoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,661	Originally posted by tvdtvdtvd The Simpsons embiggen us all. That sounds unpossible, but I have to agree with you.