K-mount lenses

**luftfluss** · 01-10-2020, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by aslyfox

did I goof up

[ it wouldn't be the first time, nor the last ]

the lens is designed to work with film SLR

perhaps not the one that the OP mentioned ?

The OP currently has a K1000, and is looking to acquire an MX. Neither body is auto-aperture, so only 2 of those DFA lenses - the 50 Macro and non-WR 100 Macrro - would work for him.

He also seems to be looking for something to fit between his 28mm and 50mm, although I agree that a Macro lens could be pretty neat. And since it looks like he will have neither auto-focus or auto-aperture, and is on a budget, he could go for an older, cheaper lens than that fits the bill.

Edit: as a whole, as @torashi noted I think we're all a bit scattershot in this thread

We're so eager to "help" the OP.

Last edited by luftfluss; 01-10-2020 at 11:42 AM.

**aslyfox** · 01-10-2020, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by luftfluss

The OP currently has a K1000, and is looking to acquire an MX. Neither body is auto-aperture, so only 2 of those DFA lenses - the 50 Macro and non-WR 100 Macrro - would work for him. . . .

So my thoughts about the DFA 100mm F2.8 Macro ( non wr )

wasn't wrong if the OP wanted to go that route

**Apet-Sure** · 01-10-2020, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by craveone

I don't use the 135

I would think it would be useful for your portraiture. When my wife and I were first dating I took a shot of her with a 135 on a 35mm film camera. The relatively shallow DOF did a nice job of isolating her from the pleasingly blurry background. She loved the shot.

**gofour3** · 01-10-2020, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by craveone

I've looked into either the ME Super or the Program, mainly for the Ap priority mode. But I'm going to want manual features most of the time. I'm hoping I'll be able to get some street stuff with the MX

The M24-35/3.5 is a nice little zoom that is good for street shooting. Don't bother with AF zooms if you're only going to use a manual focus film camera. (They are usually slower. bigger, plasticity and more expensive)

Phil.

craveone · 01-10-2020, 01:02 PM

Yeah, I think I want to stick with a fully manual camera. I only really do portraits here and there. I'd like to start doing more since I have some ideas for double exposure stuff. But with those ideas I still don't see using the 135. Maybe I'll stick with what I have for now. I do love my 50 and 28, and as was stated before the 28 will work for street stuff. I have yet to really do "street" work. I'd like to try the MX with street since its so small, and maybe get a flash for it later down the road.

**PJ1** · 01-10-2020, 01:11 PM

The K35/3.5 is a very good lens that won't break the bank.

torashi · 01-10-2020, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by craveone

Yeah, I think I want to stick with a fully manual camera. I only really do portraits here and there. I'd like to start doing more since I have some ideas for double exposure stuff. But with those ideas I still don't see using the 135. Maybe I'll stick with what I have for now. I do love my 50 and 28, and as was stated before the 28 will work for street stuff. I have yet to really do "street" work. I'd like to try the MX with street since its so small, and maybe get a flash for it later down the road.

Now that you're mentioning double exposures again, you might want to look for an inexpensive ZX-L with battery grip or some rechargeable CR2's. The MZ-S is great for that, but way more expensive.

stevebrot · 01-10-2020, 02:28 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by FozzFoster

I'd suggest the Pentax 35mm f/2.8 Ltd. Macro.
It'd add a macro to your kit and it's a great walk-around/street lens too.

OP is shooting film and upgrading to the MX model film camera. The DA 35/2.8 has no aperture ring and will not work with that camera.

(Yes...more public flogging...)

Steve

stevebrot · 01-10-2020, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by craveone

I'd like to get into more street stuff in the future. I'd like to add to my lenses, I was looking at a 35m or even the pancake 40. Is there a different option I should be looking at? What could help round off my current lens choices?

You currently own the classic "three-lens kit" and many people would simply stop right there. If you are interested in doing more street stuff, 35mm focal length is the historic standard. I shot for years with nothing between 28mm and 50mm and was quite happy doing so until I started shooting 35mm on my rangefinder cameras. That was when the lights came on regarding that focal length. It simply works for street. I don't have experience with the Pentax-M 40/2.8 pancake, though I do know it has its fans.

Steve

craveone · 01-10-2020, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

You currently own the classic "three-lens kit" and many people would simply stop right there. If you are interested in doing more street stuff, 35mm focal length is the historic standard. I shot for years with nothing between 28mm and 50mm and was quite happy doing so until I started shooting 35mm on my rangefinder cameras. That was when the lights came on regarding that focal length. It simply works for street. I don't have experience with the Pentax-M 40/2.8 pancake, though I do know it has its fans.

Steve

Wish I could afford a nice RF. My Zorki 4 with a Jupiter 8 50m is about all I could cough up.... lol

Gary H Perth · 01-10-2020, 09:27 PM

When I was doing the walkaround general purpose work with a film camera (ME and LX) I usually carried the Tamron Adaptall SP 35-80mm. This gives me the slightly wide angle, a short tele and semi-macro in one lens. And the max aperture (f2.8-3.8) is good enough to allow general hand-held shots in shade with ISO 400 film. If you must go Pentax, then the 40-80mm M series is quite good, but the Tamron is optically better.

If I am doing the walkaround tourist type exercise, then I miss less opportunities with a short zoom. I often had the 40mm pancake in my back pocket as well, then 28, 40, 50 and 135 all have the same size filters.

**alpeterson** · 01-11-2020, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by Gary H Perth

When I was doing the walkaround general purpose work with a film camera (ME and LX) I usually carried the Tamron Adaptall SP 35-80mm. This gives me the slightly wide angle, a short tele and semi-macro in one lens. And the max aperture (f2.8-3.8) is good enough to allow general hand-held shots in shade with ISO 400 film. If you must go Pentax, then the 40-80mm M series is quite good, but the Tamron is optically better.

If I am doing the walkaround tourist type exercise, then I miss less opportunities with a short zoom. I often had the 40mm pancake in my back pocket as well, then 28, 40, 50 and 135 all have the same size filters.

I love the A-35 f/2.8 -- extremely sharp and fun to use. If you're interested in zooms that cover that range, the A 24-50 and M 35-70 are also both really nice lenses.

Gary H Perth · 01-11-2020, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by alpeterson

I love the A-35 f/2.8 -- extremely sharp and fun to use. If you're interested in zooms that cover that range, the A 24-50 and M 35-70 are also both really nice lenses.

I have the M version of the 35mm/f2.8 (optically similar) and it's great. That A 24-50 is probably a good choice, as would be the Tamron 24-48mm, but they are both harder to find than the M or A primes. There is also a small light M 28-50mm if the OP is willing to go with a zoom.

**mikesbike** · 01-11-2020, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by aslyfox

did I goof up

[ it wouldn't be the first time, nor the last ]

the lens is designed to work with film SLR

perhaps not the one that the OP mentioned ?

I don't think you did goof up. You said you have the non-WR version of the DFA 100mm f/2.8 macro, which I believe does have an aperture ring.

The DA 40mm f/2.8 is not for film but works for a FF body, yet doesn't have an aperture ring and would thus not be appropriate for the bodies the Op is contemplating, however, the Pentax "M" 40mm f/2.8 would do very well, as of course would the marvelous FA 43mm Limited.

**aslyfox** · 01-11-2020, 03:47 PM

I guess I could have been more clear and indicated the mentioning of the thread concerning the 40mms and 43mm limited was to show the potential of the original pancake lens - the Pentax "M" 40mm f/2.8 and the FA 43 Limited which do have the aperture ring as you noted.

so does the DFA 100mm F2.8 Macro ( non WR ) which does have the aperture ring

01-10-2020, 02:28 PM - 1 Like	#23
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by FozzFoster I'd suggest the Pentax 35mm f/2.8 Ltd. Macro. It'd add a macro to your kit and it's a great walk-around/street lens too. OP is shooting film and upgrading to the MX model film camera. The DA 35/2.8 has no aperture ring and will not work with that camera. (Yes...more public flogging...) Steve Last edited by stevebrot; 01-10-2020 at 02:39 PM.

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01-10-2020, 11:23 AM	#16
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,618	Originally posted by aslyfox did I goof up [ it wouldn't be the first time, nor the last ] the lens is designed to work with film SLR perhaps not the one that the OP mentioned ? The OP currently has a K1000, and is looking to acquire an MX. Neither body is auto-aperture, so only 2 of those DFA lenses - the 50 Macro and non-WR 100 Macrro - would work for him. He also seems to be looking for something to fit between his 28mm and 50mm, although I agree that a Macro lens could be pretty neat. And since it looks like he will have neither auto-focus or auto-aperture, and is on a budget, he could go for an older, cheaper lens than that fits the bill. Edit: as a whole, as @torashi noted I think we're all a bit scattershot in this thread We're so eager to "help" the OP. Last edited by luftfluss; 01-10-2020 at 11:42 AM.

01-10-2020, 11:40 AM	#17
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,581	Originally posted by luftfluss The OP currently has a K1000, and is looking to acquire an MX. Neither body is auto-aperture, so only 2 of those DFA lenses - the 50 Macro and non-WR 100 Macrro - would work for him. . . . So my thoughts about the DFA 100mm F2.8 Macro ( non wr ) wasn't wrong if the OP wanted to go that route

01-10-2020, 11:41 AM	#18
Apet-Sure Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Goldsboro North Carolina Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,861	Originally posted by craveone I don't use the 135 I would think it would be useful for your portraiture. When my wife and I were first dating I took a shot of her with a 135 on a 35mm film camera. The relatively shallow DOF did a nice job of isolating her from the pleasingly blurry background. She loved the shot.

01-10-2020, 11:51 AM	#19
gofour3 Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,089	Originally posted by craveone I've looked into either the ME Super or the Program, mainly for the Ap priority mode. But I'm going to want manual features most of the time. I'm hoping I'll be able to get some street stuff with the MX The M24-35/3.5 is a nice little zoom that is good for street shooting. Don't bother with AF zooms if you're only going to use a manual focus film camera. (They are usually slower. bigger, plasticity and more expensive) Phil.

01-10-2020, 01:02 PM	#20
craveone Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 69 Original Poster	Yeah, I think I want to stick with a fully manual camera. I only really do portraits here and there. I'd like to start doing more since I have some ideas for double exposure stuff. But with those ideas I still don't see using the 135. Maybe I'll stick with what I have for now. I do love my 50 and 28, and as was stated before the 28 will work for street stuff. I have yet to really do "street" work. I'd like to try the MX with street since its so small, and maybe get a flash for it later down the road.

01-10-2020, 01:11 PM	#21
PJ1 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Toowoomba, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,482	The K35/3.5 is a very good lens that won't break the bank.

01-10-2020, 01:30 PM	#22
torashi Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Medellín Posts: 1,322	Originally posted by craveone Yeah, I think I want to stick with a fully manual camera. I only really do portraits here and there. I'd like to start doing more since I have some ideas for double exposure stuff. But with those ideas I still don't see using the 135. Maybe I'll stick with what I have for now. I do love my 50 and 28, and as was stated before the 28 will work for street stuff. I have yet to really do "street" work. I'd like to try the MX with street since its so small, and maybe get a flash for it later down the road. Now that you're mentioning double exposures again, you might want to look for an inexpensive ZX-L with battery grip or some rechargeable CR2's. The MZ-S is great for that, but way more expensive.

01-10-2020, 02:39 PM	#24
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by craveone I'd like to get into more street stuff in the future. I'd like to add to my lenses, I was looking at a 35m or even the pancake 40. Is there a different option I should be looking at? What could help round off my current lens choices? You currently own the classic "three-lens kit" and many people would simply stop right there. If you are interested in doing more street stuff, 35mm focal length is the historic standard. I shot for years with nothing between 28mm and 50mm and was quite happy doing so until I started shooting 35mm on my rangefinder cameras. That was when the lights came on regarding that focal length. It simply works for street. I don't have experience with the Pentax-M 40/2.8 pancake, though I do know it has its fans. Steve

01-10-2020, 02:45 PM	#25
craveone Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 69 Original Poster	Originally posted by stevebrot You currently own the classic "three-lens kit" and many people would simply stop right there. If you are interested in doing more street stuff, 35mm focal length is the historic standard. I shot for years with nothing between 28mm and 50mm and was quite happy doing so until I started shooting 35mm on my rangefinder cameras. That was when the lights came on regarding that focal length. It simply works for street. I don't have experience with the Pentax-M 40/2.8 pancake, though I do know it has its fans. Steve Wish I could afford a nice RF. My Zorki 4 with a Jupiter 8 50m is about all I could cough up.... lol

01-10-2020, 09:27 PM	#26
Gary H Perth Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Floreat Posts: 623	When I was doing the walkaround general purpose work with a film camera (ME and LX) I usually carried the Tamron Adaptall SP 35-80mm. This gives me the slightly wide angle, a short tele and semi-macro in one lens. And the max aperture (f2.8-3.8) is good enough to allow general hand-held shots in shade with ISO 400 film. If you must go Pentax, then the 40-80mm M series is quite good, but the Tamron is optically better. If I am doing the walkaround tourist type exercise, then I miss less opportunities with a short zoom. I often had the 40mm pancake in my back pocket as well, then 28, 40, 50 and 135 all have the same size filters.

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01-11-2020, 08:04 AM	#27
alpeterson Site Supporter Join Date: May 2013 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 63	Originally posted by Gary H Perth When I was doing the walkaround general purpose work with a film camera (ME and LX) I usually carried the Tamron Adaptall SP 35-80mm. This gives me the slightly wide angle, a short tele and semi-macro in one lens. And the max aperture (f2.8-3.8) is good enough to allow general hand-held shots in shade with ISO 400 film. If you must go Pentax, then the 40-80mm M series is quite good, but the Tamron is optically better. If I am doing the walkaround tourist type exercise, then I miss less opportunities with a short zoom. I often had the 40mm pancake in my back pocket as well, then 28, 40, 50 and 135 all have the same size filters. I love the A-35 f/2.8 -- extremely sharp and fun to use. If you're interested in zooms that cover that range, the A 24-50 and M 35-70 are also both really nice lenses.

01-11-2020, 03:23 PM	#28
Gary H Perth Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Floreat Posts: 623	Originally posted by alpeterson I love the A-35 f/2.8 -- extremely sharp and fun to use. If you're interested in zooms that cover that range, the A 24-50 and M 35-70 are also both really nice lenses. I have the M version of the 35mm/f2.8 (optically similar) and it's great. That A 24-50 is probably a good choice, as would be the Tamron 24-48mm, but they are both harder to find than the M or A primes. There is also a small light M 28-50mm if the OP is willing to go with a zoom.

01-11-2020, 03:31 PM	#29
mikesbike Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Southeastern Michigan Posts: 4,549	Originally posted by aslyfox did I goof up [ it wouldn't be the first time, nor the last ] the lens is designed to work with film SLR perhaps not the one that the OP mentioned ? I don't think you did goof up. You said you have the non-WR version of the DFA 100mm f/2.8 macro, which I believe does have an aperture ring. The DA 40mm f/2.8 is not for film but works for a FF body, yet doesn't have an aperture ring and would thus not be appropriate for the bodies the Op is contemplating, however, the Pentax "M" 40mm f/2.8 would do very well, as of course would the marvelous FA 43mm Limited.

01-11-2020, 03:47 PM	#30
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,581	I guess I could have been more clear and indicated the mentioning of the thread concerning the 40mms and 43mm limited was to show the potential of the original pancake lens - the Pentax "M" 40mm f/2.8 and the FA 43 Limited which do have the aperture ring as you noted. so does the DFA 100mm F2.8 Macro ( non WR ) which does have the aperture ring