Originally posted by Kunzite Yes, but I hoped it won't go as far as to the old Takumars...
After all, when discussing what Pentax could/should do, that is about products they can competitively sell; the diminishing number of such old lenses and the joy they bring to a diminishing number of us is irrelevant.
Sure. I agree
Originally posted by Kunzite It's too bad we're letting the very first SDM lenses form our opinion about in-lens motors in general.
The KAF4 aperture... I hope they're standardizing to a few sizes. And I'm not expecting too many failures... as the 2 KAF4 lenses we have so far aren't particularly prone to aperture failures.
I know... but I understand why. If these had been consumer-grade lenses, the issue may not have had such a significant impact... but when your $1,000+ DA* premium lens develops an AF fault that, it turns out, is pretty much common to the line, you're likely to remember that... especially if you have to have it repaired a second time
- and then, some of those lenses are still current. It didn't stop me buying the DA*60-250/4, though, yet the possibility of SDM failure is always somewhere in the back of my mind
Still, I have plenty of other lenses - like the DA20-40, Sigma 17-50 f/2.8 HSM and numerous A-mount models (including a few Tamrons) - that use in-lens motors, and they've been utterly reliable for several years. I'm hopeful that Ricoh has the in-lens AF motor thing sorted, but I remain just ever-so-slightly cautious for the time being.
Originally posted by Kunzite Lack of progress cost more, I'd say. For example, the slowness with which they migrated towards in-lens motors... how many people were put off, when their first contact with a Pentax DSLR was "screeeeeech! screeeeeech!"?
I agree, lack of progress costs more - and I want to see Ricoh making strides to technologies that younger folks expect. In that sense, KAF4 is pretty much essential, IMHO.
I will say, my first DSLR was a Nikon D40X, and I had but two lenses - a Sigma 18-50 and Sigma 50-200 (I think); both with in-lens AF motors. I fondly remember switching to a Pentax K-7 and the DA18-55 + 50-200 WR kit lenses. The funny thing is, I was never put off by the screw-drive. I'm not saying others weren't / aren't. But it never bothered me, and still doesn't. Go figure
Originally posted by Kunzite Say Pentax would launch a camera with very good video capabilities; what if it cannot properly control its aperture on a KAF3 lens?
And perhaps Sigma would've launched a few more lenses for K-mount if they had KAF4 figured out, years ago.
Yep. Like I say, I'm all for KAF4 - it makes sense in keeping Pentax relevant, while the precision, functionality and performance will undoubtedly benefit many existing and future customers.
But you'll need to cut me a little slack for wanting backward compatibility with mechanical diaphragm control and screw-drive AF. No matter how much I might want new lenses, I don't want them at the expense of my existing ones