Meyer-Optik Gorlitz Trioplan 100mm f/2.8 II for K-mount and M42

kypfer · 02-14-2020, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by kernos

For what its worth, I think its harder to get a bubble lens at longer focal lengths.

I've yet to produce anything worth sharing with it, but initial experiments with my Carl Zeiss Jenar Triotar 135mm f/4 indicate that, under appropriate circumstances, quite reasonable "bubbles" can be generated. Many longer lenses have more than three elements, which does seem to be the criteria for "bubbles", though I'll admit the bokeh generated by the Zenitar looks "interesting"

Fenwoodian · 02-14-2020, 04:23 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Paul the Sunman

!!!!!?

To quote Fenwoodian from his PF review of Version I of this lens:

I have bought and sold hundreds and hundreds of lenses in the last 30 years. This is the only lens that I will never part with!

Read more at: Meyer-Optik Gorlitz Trioplan 100mm f:2.8 Lens Reviews - Miscellaneous Lenses - Pentax Lens Review Database

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Paul, the review you have linked to is a post that I made about my feelings about a copy of the original MOG trioplan. That lens is about 50 years old, was very well designed and manufactured, and produces excellent soap bubble bokeh.

This thread is about a new version of this lens made by a different company. The new company has no relationship to the original MOG, they only have adopted their name. The new lens is TOTAL GARBAGE. I am in the business of buying defective lenses and repairing them. This new MOG lens fell apart while I was gently using it to take photos of Christmas tree lights. The damage was so severe that the lens could not be repaired. I took it apart and have never seen any lens so cheaply designed and manufactured.

The new lens is $999. I'll make you a deal... You send me $500, and I'll happily send you the worthless pieces from my modern MOG lens that fell apart in my hands (I kept the pieces as the company that made it would NOT either repair it, refund my money, or even answer my many emails).

You can still find good used copies of the vintage original authentic MOG lenses on Ebay. I'd suggest you buy one of the original old versions used instead of one of these new versions.
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**Billy Joe** · 02-14-2020, 08:32 PM - **2 Likes**

Here are some small files from my first outing with the Trioplan... even though these are really small (thanks photobucket for shrinking all my original shots)

You can clearly see the "painterly effect" that this old lens can produce.

**RGlasel** · 02-14-2020, 09:27 PM

Originally posted by kypfer

don't hold your breath

No kidding, this is the latest "news" for all versions, not just K-mount: "We are currently revising the entire portfolio. Soon the first optimized lens will be released. This is the Trioplan 100 f2.8 II. The other lenses such as Trioplan 50, Lydith 30 or Primoplan 75 will follow (presumably) in monthly intervals."

By the way, this is a great thread. Nowhere else would I learn about bubble bokeh from people whose opinions I respect.

**Billy Joe** · 02-26-2020, 11:53 AM - **4 Likes**

Been years since I actually used it.. took it out today

stevebrot · 02-26-2020, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by Billy Joe

Been years since I actually used it.. took it out today

Assuming these are from the vintage Trioplan?

Steve

Paul the Sunman · 02-26-2020, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by Billy Joe

Been years since I actually used it.. took it out today

I like the first one in particular.

**Billy Joe** · 02-26-2020, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by Paul the Sunman

I like the first one in particular.

Agreed it does better in the shade/cloudy IMO...

---------- Post added 02-26-20 at 11:30 AM ----------

Originally posted by stevebrot

Assuming these are from the vintage Trioplan?

Steve

Yes the original, mine if from the late 50's

LennyBloke · 03-01-2020, 07:02 AM - **3 Likes**

You guys are costing me money - finally tracked one down...

**Billy Joe** · 03-01-2020, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by LennyBloke

You guys are costing me money - finally tracked one down...

you tracked down an old one? How much are they going for now?

LennyBloke · 03-02-2020, 12:43 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Billy Joe

you tracked down an old one? How much are they going for now?

Mine was the first one I'd seen below £300 for quite a while - and condition is pretty good for it's age....

**kernos** · 03-02-2020, 05:55 AM

Now you can work on the Helios 85mm 40-2 1.5

LennyBloke · 03-02-2020, 06:23 AM

Originally posted by kernos

Now you can work on the Helios 85mm 40-2 1.5

Don't encourage me - I went into town this morning for some soft fruit and came back with a Pentax K 135/3.5 and a Pentax K 200/4.0 - so beautifully built

Not sure how I explain the overspend when I get home

**K-Three** · 03-02-2020, 08:16 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by LennyBloke

some soft fruit

Did you remember the fruit?
That should make your stay in the dog house shorter

LennyBloke · 03-03-2020, 12:26 AM

Originally posted by K-Three

Did you remember the fruit?
That should make your stay in the dog house shorter

Oh Yes - Got a bargain there - 2 small punnets of Raspberries, a large tub of Strawberries and a large tub of Blueberries - all for £2 - Just about to sample them on my overnight oats

02-14-2020, 04:23 PM - 1 Like	#17
Fenwoodian Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,874	Originally posted by Paul the Sunman !!!!!? To quote Fenwoodian from his PF review of Version I of this lens: I have bought and sold hundreds and hundreds of lenses in the last 30 years. This is the only lens that I will never part with! Read more at: Meyer-Optik Gorlitz Trioplan 100mm f:2.8 Lens Reviews - Miscellaneous Lenses - Pentax Lens Review Database . Paul, the review you have linked to is a post that I made about my feelings about a copy of the original MOG trioplan. That lens is about 50 years old, was very well designed and manufactured, and produces excellent soap bubble bokeh. This thread is about a new version of this lens made by a different company. The new company has no relationship to the original MOG, they only have adopted their name. The new lens is TOTAL GARBAGE. I am in the business of buying defective lenses and repairing them. This new MOG lens fell apart while I was gently using it to take photos of Christmas tree lights. The damage was so severe that the lens could not be repaired. I took it apart and have never seen any lens so cheaply designed and manufactured. The new lens is $999. I'll make you a deal... You send me $500, and I'll happily send you the worthless pieces from my modern MOG lens that fell apart in my hands (I kept the pieces as the company that made it would NOT either repair it, refund my money, or even answer my many emails). You can still find good used copies of the vintage original authentic MOG lenses on Ebay. I'd suggest you buy one of the original old versions used instead of one of these new versions. . . Last edited by Fenwoodian; 02-14-2020 at 04:59 PM.

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02-14-2020, 04:14 PM	#16
kypfer Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Jersey C.I. Posts: 3,591	Originally posted by kernos For what its worth, I think its harder to get a bubble lens at longer focal lengths. I've yet to produce anything worth sharing with it, but initial experiments with my Carl Zeiss Jenar Triotar 135mm f/4 indicate that, under appropriate circumstances, quite reasonable "bubbles" can be generated. Many longer lenses have more than three elements, which does seem to be the criteria for "bubbles", though I'll admit the bokeh generated by the Zenitar looks "interesting"

02-14-2020, 09:27 PM	#19
RGlasel Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Saskatoon Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,227	Originally posted by kypfer don't hold your breath No kidding, this is the latest "news" for all versions, not just K-mount: "We are currently revising the entire portfolio. Soon the first optimized lens will be released. This is the Trioplan 100 f2.8 II. The other lenses such as Trioplan 50, Lydith 30 or Primoplan 75 will follow (presumably) in monthly intervals." By the way, this is a great thread. Nowhere else would I learn about bubble bokeh from people whose opinions I respect.

02-26-2020, 12:02 PM	#21
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Billy Joe Been years since I actually used it.. took it out today Assuming these are from the vintage Trioplan? Steve

02-26-2020, 12:09 PM	#22
Paul the Sunman Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,842 Original Poster	Originally posted by Billy Joe Been years since I actually used it.. took it out today I like the first one in particular.

02-26-2020, 12:29 PM	#23
Billy Joe Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 374	Originally posted by Paul the Sunman I like the first one in particular. Agreed it does better in the shade/cloudy IMO... ---------- Post added 02-26-20 at 11:30 AM ---------- Originally posted by stevebrot Assuming these are from the vintage Trioplan? Steve Yes the original, mine if from the late 50's

03-01-2020, 07:02 AM - 3 Likes	#24
LennyBloke Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Worcestershire, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 677	You guys are costing me money - finally tracked one down...

03-01-2020, 11:06 AM	#25
Billy Joe Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 374	Originally posted by LennyBloke You guys are costing me money - finally tracked one down... you tracked down an old one? How much are they going for now?

03-02-2020, 12:43 AM - 1 Like	#26
LennyBloke Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Worcestershire, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 677	Originally posted by Billy Joe you tracked down an old one? How much are they going for now? Mine was the first one I'd seen below £300 for quite a while - and condition is pretty good for it's age....

03-02-2020, 05:55 AM	#27
kernos Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 456	Now you can work on the Helios 85mm 40-2 1.5

03-02-2020, 06:23 AM	#28
LennyBloke Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Worcestershire, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 677	Originally posted by kernos Now you can work on the Helios 85mm 40-2 1.5 Don't encourage me - I went into town this morning for some soft fruit and came back with a Pentax K 135/3.5 and a Pentax K 200/4.0 - so beautifully built Not sure how I explain the overspend when I get home

03-02-2020, 08:16 PM - 1 Like	#29
K-Three Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2014 Location: Pugetopolis, WA Photos: Gallery Posts: 937	Originally posted by LennyBloke some soft fruit Did you remember the fruit? That should make your stay in the dog house shorter

03-03-2020, 12:26 AM	#30
LennyBloke Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Worcestershire, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 677	Originally posted by K-Three Did you remember the fruit? That should make your stay in the dog house shorter Oh Yes - Got a bargain there - 2 small punnets of Raspberries, a large tub of Strawberries and a large tub of Blueberries - all for £2 - Just about to sample them on my overnight oats

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