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04-23-2020, 02:19 PM   #1
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The Three Amigos

In the DA range what would be the equivalent to the FA range Three Amigos or is the term used only for the FA lenses?

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There are no direct equivalents in the DA line-up.

As for special names, how about this:

SMC Pentax-DA 15, 21, 35, 40, 70mm Limiteds: the Pentax Quintuplets

The same in the HD line: the Pentax Quints.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Theov39 Quote
In the DA range what would be the equivalent to the FA range Three Amigos or is the term used only for the FA lenses?

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Three Amigos refers to a campy American comedy movie not worthy of the attaching to the FA Limited. In Japan the FA Limiteds are given the honorific Three Princesses, referring to the Imperial daughters.. There are five DA Limiteds. I do not know of a corresponding honorific for the DA Limiteds. If you multiply the FL of the FA Limiteds by .67 you’ll have an approximation of the corresponding FoV on an APSc sensor (the math isn’t perfect, but it is easier).

FA31 = 20.77 = DA21
FA43 = 28.81 (30) = no direct comparison
FA77 = 51.59 = no direct comparison

A better way to think of the DA Limited set is to compare to the classic film five lens set of 20, 28, 50, (85), 105
15 = 22
21= 31.5
35 = 52.5
40 = 60
70 = 105

DA*16-50 and DA* 50-135 compare to 24-70 and 70-210.

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The term is three amigos is used for the three FA Limited lenses. There are five limited lenses in the DA range, and only one, the DA 21, provides an equivalent FOV to one of the FA Limiteds (i.e., the FA 31) on full-frame. But if you're shooting the FA limiteds on APS-C, the DA 40 is close to the FA 43, and the DA 70 is close to the FA 77. The FA limiteds, however, are a bit more ambitious in terms of aperture, build quality, and optical quality. The DA limiteds are more compact and feature great color rendering and flare control.

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As for special names, how about this:
How about mine?
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QuoteOriginally posted by c.a.m Quote
There are no direct equivalents in the DA line-up.

As for special names, how about this:

SMC Pentax-DA 15, 21, 35, 40, 70mm Limiteds: the Pentax Quintuplets

The same in the HD line: the Pentax Quints.

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DAve clark Five is jazzier.
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How about mine?
The Kerrowdown-Five? Sounds like a gangster squad.


QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
DAve clark Five is jazzier.
I thought that was a rock and roll band. Did they do jazz as well?

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The Kerrowdown-Five? Sounds like a gangster squad.
No I was thinking more along the lines... “Mistress", "Good Lady”, “Friendly Lady”, "Deviate Lady", "Street Lady", "Retro Lady", "Special Lady”, “Femme Fatale”, “Sweetheart”, "Lady Luck”, "Gorgeous Lady”, “Duchess” and "HM The Queen".
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If you have to have only three DA limited lenses I'd say you should pick:

DA 15 or 21
DA 35 or 40
DA 70

Pick the 15 over the 21 if you prefer a 24 over a 28 on Full Frame, or just like very wide angle.

Pick the 21 over the 15 if street photography appeals more than very wide angle.

Pick the 40 over the 35 if Macro isn't as important as extremely small size.

Pick the 35 if you want what is arguably the most versatile DA limited lens. It is the equivalent of a nice 50mm macro on 35mm film. Reasonably fast, sharp and able to do 1:1 macro shots all in a relatively small package.

The 70 is a no brainier if you are like me and like a roughly 100mm perspective on 35mm film for portraits. If that seems too long then skip it but it really is a nice portrait lens.
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At face value, the DA 40 and DA 70 don't seem to have much correspondence with the FA 43 and FA 77 due to the crop factor making them effectively 60mm and 105mm on APS-C. However, both lenses can produce beautiful results on FF as well, if you don't pixel-peep the corners too closely. With that caveat, they can be more relevant comparators on the K-1.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Theov39 Quote
In the DA range what would be the equivalent to the FA range Three Amigos or is the term used only for the FA lenses?

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In the DA range, the HD 20-40 Limited falls a bit short at its longest end but it could emulate the other focal lengths exactly.

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any of the limiteds

can be addictive

the limiteds do they live up to the reputation and why - Page 23 - PentaxForums.com

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The DA limiteds are excellent (I have DA14, 40 and 70) but I think the designation of 3 "Amigos" or "Princesses" is reserved for FA limiteds and still quite deserving IMO.
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I am waiting for the three stars. One is already here, another is close and number three should be under development.
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