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05-06-2020, 02:40 PM   #31
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You could "rent" it from Amazon
At the moment I have the Sigma 17-50 in my cart at Amazon.
I'm in the final stages of convincing myself to hit the buy button.
I like the idea of the Pentax 16-85, but in practicality it doesn't do anything my Sigma 18-250 doesn't.

Edit: I just took a second look at the test results on opticallimits.com (formerly photozone). If I have to stop down to f/4 or below to even get into the "good" range at the borders the f/2.8 really isn't any benefit over the Pentax.

My brain hurts.


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" to rent or not to rent, that is the question . "

[ sorry bill ]

certainly an individual decision

if I was trying to decide between A and B and had neither

and could rent both at a " reasonable " cost for a short time ( 3-4 days )

plus discounts to help with shipping costs

then I take a look and decide whether it is worth the cost

it might not be

but I like exploring options and then deciding

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Of the three contenders, Lensrentals has only the DA 16-85 & DA 20-40 in stock.

As an aside, they do have the new DFA 70-210/4 in stock. I'm a little bit surprised.
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Renting is a no.

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There is a thought floating around that there might be an updated DA* 16-50/2.8 coming with the K-New. Maybe wait?
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Maybe wait?
Wait? Bwaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
For me patience is an obscure word in the dictionary.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Parallax Quote
At the moment I have the Sigma 17-50 in my cart at Amazon.
I'm in the final stages of convincing myself to hit the buy button.
I like the idea of the Pentax 16-85, but in practicality it doesn't do anything my Sigma 18-250 doesn't.

Edit: I just took a second look at the test results on opticallimits.com (formerly photozone). If I have to stop down to f/4 or below to even get into the "good" range at the borders the f/2.8 really isn't any benefit over the Pentax.

My brain hurts.
Have you seen Heie's review of the 16-85 - worth a read if you're considering it: HD Pentax-DA 16-85mm F3.5-5.6 ED DC WR Reviews - DA Zoom Lenses - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database

If you don't feel it would do much more than the 18-250, maybe that's another excuse for the 20-40. It's different enough to justify alongside the 18-250 - faster, smaller compact package - as well being a Limited and WR.


Also, have you considered renting? Sorry - I couldn't resist
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Also, have you considered renting? Sorry - I couldn't resist
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Have you seen Heie's review of the 16-85 - worth a read if you're considering it: HD Pentax-DA 16-85mm F3.5-5.6 ED DC WR Reviews - DA Zoom Lenses - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database
Thanks for that, Robert. That pretty much seals the deal.
The Sigma is out. The Pentax is in.


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Thanks for that, Robert. That pretty much seals the deal.
The Sigma is out. The Pentax is in.
Glad to be of help. When I was recently looking for a walk around WR zoom, the 16-85 was a pretty attractive option - though I couldn't find one within my budget.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Parallax Quote
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Thanks for that, Robert. That pretty much seals the deal.
The Sigma is out. The Pentax is in.
I don't think you'll be disappointed
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QuoteOriginally posted by Parallax Quote
The 20-40 is becoming more and more attractive.
The "BUG" has really infected you quite badly....lol
I have the 20-40 and would never ever think of getting rid of it for any reason. Yes....Its that good !
Are you sure of your descision ? I mean really , really sure for the 16-85? Positively sure ?

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funny thing about the 20-40mm: when I was looking/lusting for one, I bought a copy of the 35 Macro Ltd and that solved my issue...

the 35 Ltd is a desert-isle lens...
For FF I agree completely. However for APSc mine is the DA15 limited.

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Are you sure of your descision ? I mean really , really sure for the 16-85? Positively sure ?
Well, I thought I was.
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Well, I thought I was.
well

you could

[ bet you thought I was going to use a four letter word starting with " r " and ending in " t " ]



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That lens is fine.
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