HD Pentax-D FA★ 85mm f/1.4 ED SDM AW first review

gatorguy · 06-26-2020, 12:04 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by normhead

Legendary is good.
It's already a legend around here. It's the first lens Tess has ever agreed we should own (if we could afford it) from the preliminary images. They've all been impressive.

Well then be careful there Norm, maybe your body has more value than you think it does. Have Tess take the first drink or bite of anything she serves you.

Anyway love seeing a glowing first review of this lens. Perhaps it will push other review sites to be a bit more careful with their testing and conclusions.

Wheatfield · 06-26-2020, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by gatorguy

Well then be careful there Norm, maybe your body has more value than you think it does. Have Tess take the first drink or bite of anything she serves you.

Anyway love seeing a glowing first review of this lens. Perhaps it will push other review sites to be a bit more careful with their testing and conclusions.

I expect this lens is going to get a fair amount of airtime from new owners who want to show off what it can do.
Bad tests will very quickly get gut punched by users.
I am looking forward to DPR's review, just to see if they do their usual hit piece.

normhead · 06-26-2020, 01:42 PM

Quote:

I am looking forward to DPR's review, just to see if they do their usual hit piece.

We should have a pool. How far into their review will DPR launch their first anti-Pentax cheap shot?

100 words? 200 words?

**robbiec** · 06-26-2020, 01:56 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by normhead

We should have a pool. How far into their review will DPR launch their first anti-Pentax cheap shot?

100 words? 200 words?

Under 50, they have to set their stall early on. Then again who is to say that they will get a lens to test? Pentax might get more coverage if they come out and say that they are boycotting DPR

call it disaster / offensive advertising!

gatorguy · 06-26-2020, 03:17 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by normhead

We should have a pool. How far into their review will DPR launch their first anti-Pentax cheap shot?

100 words? 200 words?

In the Headline

Wheatfield · 06-26-2020, 04:00 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by robbiec

Under 50, they have to set their stall early on. Then again who is to say that they will get a lens to test? Pentax might get more coverage if they come out and say that they are boycotting DPR

call it disaster / offensive advertising!

[opinion]
If anything qualifies as Fake News, it's DPReview.
[/opinion]

**robbiec** · 06-26-2020, 04:11 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Wheatfield

[opinion]
If anything qualifies as Fake News, it's DPReview.
[/opinion]

[Opinion]Agreed[/Opinion]

Last edited by robbiec; 06-26-2020 at 04:13 PM. Reason: Might have upset some

**Serkevan** · 06-26-2020, 04:47 PM - **7 Likes**

Originally posted by gatorguy

In the Headline

"Pentax refuses to get with the times and releases the HD D FA* 85mm f/1.4 lens for their obsolete mirror box"

**robbiec** · 06-26-2020, 04:54 PM - **5 Likes**

Originally posted by Serkevan

"Pentax refuses to get with the times and releases the HD D FA* 85mm f/1.4 lens for their obsolete mirror box"

"Pentax continues to confound the photographic segment by continuing to turn an operating profit amidst crashing sales and losses by its competitors while retaining class leading loyalty amongst their user base."

One man's obsolete is another's tried and trusted.

Unregistered User 8 · 06-27-2020, 02:42 AM - **1 Like**

Hi folks. Please keep the posts relevant to the topic, and not descending into bickering. Thanks.

**Serkevan** · 06-27-2020, 03:09 AM

Going back to the review itself and the sample shots, it looks like the foreground blur (particularly the boxy thing immediately in front of the plane of focus) in https://pentaxklub.com/pk/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/pkb_dfa85_galerie15.jpg is slightly busy... or rather, like motion-blurry. Almost as two imperfectly-superimposed images. Although it might be an illusion caused by different light.

That said, if imperfect foreground bokeh is the price to pay, it's a small one

Wheatfield · 06-27-2020, 03:56 AM

Originally posted by Serkevan

Going back to the review itself and the sample shots, it looks like the foreground blur (particularly the boxy thing immediately in front of the plane of focus) in https://pentaxklub.com/pk/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/pkb_dfa85_galerie15.jpg is slightly busy... or rather, like motion-blurry. Almost as two imperfectly-superimposed images. Although it might be an illusion caused by different light.

That said, if imperfect foreground bokeh is the price to pay, it's a small one

Real photographers don’t have foreground bokeh.

**Serkevan** · 06-27-2020, 03:59 AM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

Real photographers don’t have foreground bokeh.

Acording to Ansel, they don't have any

Wheatfield · 06-27-2020, 07:12 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Serkevan

Acording to Ansel, they don't have any

I didn't realize there was such a thing as bokeh until after I started shooting digital, being an acolyte of St. Ansel.

**ffking** · 06-27-2020, 07:15 AM

Originally posted by normhead

How far into their review will DPR launch their first anti-Pentax cheap shot?

Simple - they won't reviewi it

06-26-2020, 04:54 PM - 5 Likes	#39
robbiec Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cork Photos: Albums Posts: 1,882	Originally posted by Serkevan "Pentax refuses to get with the times and releases the HD D FA* 85mm f/1.4 lens for their obsolete mirror box" "Pentax continues to confound the photographic segment by continuing to turn an operating profit amidst crashing sales and losses by its competitors while retaining class leading loyalty amongst their user base." One man's obsolete is another's tried and trusted. Last edited by robbiec; 06-27-2020 at 04:55 AM. Reason: Changed 'confuse' with confound'

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06-26-2020, 12:04 PM - 1 Like	#31
gatorguy Moderator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Central Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,092	Originally posted by normhead Legendary is good. It's already a legend around here. It's the first lens Tess has ever agreed we should own (if we could afford it) from the preliminary images. They've all been impressive. Well then be careful there Norm, maybe your body has more value than you think it does. Have Tess take the first drink or bite of anything she serves you. Anyway love seeing a glowing first review of this lens. Perhaps it will push other review sites to be a bit more careful with their testing and conclusions.

06-26-2020, 01:34 PM	#32
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981	Originally posted by gatorguy Well then be careful there Norm, maybe your body has more value than you think it does. Have Tess take the first drink or bite of anything she serves you. Anyway love seeing a glowing first review of this lens. Perhaps it will push other review sites to be a bit more careful with their testing and conclusions. I expect this lens is going to get a fair amount of airtime from new owners who want to show off what it can do. Bad tests will very quickly get gut punched by users. I am looking forward to DPR's review, just to see if they do their usual hit piece.

06-26-2020, 01:42 PM	#33
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Quote: I am looking forward to DPR's review, just to see if they do their usual hit piece. We should have a pool. How far into their review will DPR launch their first anti-Pentax cheap shot? 100 words? 200 words?

06-26-2020, 01:56 PM - 2 Likes	#34
robbiec Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cork Photos: Albums Posts: 1,882	Originally posted by normhead We should have a pool. How far into their review will DPR launch their first anti-Pentax cheap shot? 100 words? 200 words? Under 50, they have to set their stall early on. Then again who is to say that they will get a lens to test? Pentax might get more coverage if they come out and say that they are boycotting DPR call it disaster / offensive advertising!

06-26-2020, 03:17 PM - 1 Like	#35
gatorguy Moderator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Central Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,092	Originally posted by normhead We should have a pool. How far into their review will DPR launch their first anti-Pentax cheap shot? 100 words? 200 words? In the Headline

06-26-2020, 04:00 PM - 1 Like	#36
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981	Originally posted by robbiec Under 50, they have to set their stall early on. Then again who is to say that they will get a lens to test? Pentax might get more coverage if they come out and say that they are boycotting DPR call it disaster / offensive advertising! [opinion] If anything qualifies as Fake News, it's DPReview. [/opinion]

06-26-2020, 04:11 PM - 1 Like	#37
robbiec Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cork Photos: Albums Posts: 1,882	Originally posted by Wheatfield [opinion] If anything qualifies as Fake News, it's DPReview. [/opinion] [Opinion]Agreed[/Opinion] Last edited by robbiec; 06-26-2020 at 04:13 PM. Reason: Might have upset some

06-26-2020, 04:47 PM - 7 Likes	#38
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by gatorguy In the Headline "Pentax refuses to get with the times and releases the HD D FA* 85mm f/1.4 lens for their obsolete mirror box"

06-27-2020, 02:42 AM - 1 Like	#40
Unregistered User 8 Closed Account Join Date: Mar 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,694	Hi folks. Please keep the posts relevant to the topic, and not descending into bickering. Thanks.

06-27-2020, 03:09 AM	#41
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Going back to the review itself and the sample shots, it looks like the foreground blur (particularly the boxy thing immediately in front of the plane of focus) in https://pentaxklub.com/pk/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/pkb_dfa85_galerie15.jpg is slightly busy... or rather, like motion-blurry. Almost as two imperfectly-superimposed images. Although it might be an illusion caused by different light. That said, if imperfect foreground bokeh is the price to pay, it's a small one

06-27-2020, 03:56 AM	#42
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981	Originally posted by Serkevan Going back to the review itself and the sample shots, it looks like the foreground blur (particularly the boxy thing immediately in front of the plane of focus) in https://pentaxklub.com/pk/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/pkb_dfa85_galerie15.jpg is slightly busy... or rather, like motion-blurry. Almost as two imperfectly-superimposed images. Although it might be an illusion caused by different light. That said, if imperfect foreground bokeh is the price to pay, it's a small one Real photographers don’t have foreground bokeh.

06-27-2020, 03:59 AM	#43
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by Wheatfield Real photographers don’t have foreground bokeh. Acording to Ansel, they don't have any

06-27-2020, 07:12 AM - 1 Like	#44
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981	Originally posted by Serkevan Acording to Ansel, they don't have any I didn't realize there was such a thing as bokeh until after I started shooting digital, being an acolyte of St. Ansel.

06-27-2020, 07:15 AM	#45
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	Originally posted by normhead How far into their review will DPR launch their first anti-Pentax cheap shot? Simple - they won't reviewi it

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