Why do I stay with Pentax?

Wheatfield · 11-04-2008, 08:02 AM

Because it p!sses you lot off.

Seriously though, yesterday I had to shoot the head and shoulders portrait for a new photographer at the studio.
She actually asked me to use one of the Nikons because my Pentax lenses are too good.
I happened to have the A50/1.2 on the K20, so I smiled and told her this isn't one of my best lenses (true enough).
I set the lights up, a very simple set-up where I blasted the white muslin with a 600watt monolight, and used a single head behind me and to my left, and a reflector hung beside the background light for fill.
No tricks here, just very straighforward lighting.
The studio owner walked by as we were shooting and chuckled a little at my lighting, but carried on.
When we opened the files in Lightroom his jaw literally dropped. He told me that if he had used that lighting set-up with his Nikkor lenses, the images would have been ruined by veiling flare.
I've shot Pentax for so long now, I've forgotten what veiling flare is.

That's all.

Last edited by Wheatfield; 11-04-2008 at 08:15 AM.

séamuis · 11-04-2008, 08:49 AM

this made me smile from ear to ear.

Venturi · 11-04-2008, 08:56 AM

Thanks for that. Now I gotta clean coffee off my monitor....

**Ron Boggs** · 11-04-2008, 09:01 AM

Yeah, it isn't like we all just accidentally ended up shooting with Pentax equipment. Though more Camry autos and Ford Trucks are sold than any other, that doesn't mean Lamborghini or Porche are not worth choosing. Similar metaphor with Pentax. So what if more "me too's" choose the same old canon and nikon stuff? So what if Ford, canon and nikon have more accessory choices than Porche or Pentax? So what if they offer more models to choose from? If Pentax or Porche offers the model you want to run with, then all those other choices really don't matter do they?
Like you Wheatfield, I really like the way my Pentax stuff works and I like the images that result. Some people jump brands all the time and not just with photo equipment...some don't.
I kindof like it when I'm standing with 50 photographers shooting at a moose in Denali and I'm the only one shooting Pentax...or standing with 100 in Yellowstone shooting an elk and I'm the only one with a big silver lens. Great conversation starter...We could have chosen to spend 5x the money for Leica equipment and had even less accessory and model choices and been a part of an even smaller market niche.
If everyone is wearing Nike shoes, I'm likely to wear hiking boots. Remember when Calvin Klein jeans were such a big deal (dating myself here)? Bet Wheatfield didn't wear them either!
Enjoy your Pentax gear Wheatfield!

UliBär · 11-04-2008, 09:33 AM

Ha, that's a good one!

Go Pentax!

Miserere · 11-04-2008, 09:47 AM

"veiling flare"...I had to look that up in the Photographer's Dictionary

**Ron Boggs** · 11-04-2008, 10:00 AM

Just got an email warning me that Wheatfield isn't really a Pentax fan. Yeah, yeah, I've seen all the posts, but reading between the lines, it's the results that still keep Wheatfield and plenty of others playing the Pentax game.
Sure, he looks at other bodies, but keeps the Pentax. I look at other women's bodies but have no plans of trading in my wife for a newer model. So no I won't get a Klondike Bar (U.S. advert)...

Wheatfield · 11-04-2008, 10:24 AM

Me? Not a Pentax fan?

Really?

I suppose it's unlikely that I'd own this much Pentax gear if I didn't have a fairly strong brand preference....

Perhaps because I am also a fairly acerbic individual who doesn't suffer the fools who are fanboys.....

And Calvin Kleins always made my ass look too big.

**tranq78** · 11-04-2008, 10:48 AM

I spy the mythical FA200 macro! But where's the lens hood for it?

Originally posted by Wheatfield

Me? Not a Pentax fan?

Really?

I suppose it's unlikely that I'd own this much Pentax gear if I didn't have a fairly strong brand preference....

Perhaps because I am also a fairly acerbic individual who doesn't suffer the fools who are fanboys.....

And Calvin Kleins always made my ass look too big.

Wheatfield · 11-04-2008, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by tranq78

I spy the mythical FA200 macro! But where's the lens hood for it?

Off to the left, along with a pile of lens caps.
That was an interesting acquisition. The lens came recommended to me by a couple of fellows, so I set about to find one. Pentax Canada told me it was discontinued, but somehow the rep found one in someones kit (I believe in the USA). Anyway, PCI imported it, refurbished it for me and sold it to me for ~1/3 of new price.
So I took the money I "saved" and put it towards the near mythical A600/5.6.
That was a very good month to be me.

kenyee · 11-04-2008, 11:09 AM

If wheatfield ever decides to dump Pentax, us vultures are going to have a field day :-)

legacyb4 · 11-04-2008, 11:19 AM

I've only ever seen the 600mm in the Pentax Gallery in Tokyo; that thing was massive and let me check out peeps across the street who never had the faintest clue they were being watched...

Originally posted by Wheatfield

So I took the money I "saved" and put it towards the near mythical A600/5.6.

**Lowell Goudge** · 11-04-2008, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by Ron Boggs

Yeah, it isn't like we all just accidentally ended up shooting with Pentax equipment. Though more Camry autos and Ford Trucks are sold than any other, that doesn't mean Lamborghini or Porche are not worth choosing. Similar metaphor with Pentax. So what if more "me too's" choose the same old canon and nikon stuff? So what if Ford, canon and nikon have more accessory choices than Porche or Pentax? So what if they offer more models to choose from? If Pentax or Porche offers the model you want to run with, then all those other choices really don't matter do they?
Like you Wheatfield, I really like the way my Pentax stuff works and I like the images that result. Some people jump brands all the time and not just with photo equipment...some don't.
I kindof like it when I'm standing with 50 photographers shooting at a moose in Denali and I'm the only one shooting Pentax...or standing with 100 in Yellowstone shooting an elk and I'm the only one with a big silver lens. Great conversation starter...We could have chosen to spend 5x the money for Leica equipment and had even less accessory and model choices and been a part of an even smaller market niche.
If everyone is wearing Nike shoes, I'm likely to wear hiking boots. Remember when Calvin Klein jeans were such a big deal (dating myself here)? Bet Wheatfield didn't wear them either!
Enjoy your Pentax gear Wheatfield!

you need a better metaphore.

while it is true that if you look at the ratios od fords and camry's sold, against Lamborghini or Porche might truely represent the ratio of sales of Nikon and Canon vs Pentax, somehow, the price ratio is backwards, the equivelent performance pentax lens and body is usually less than canon or nikon, not 10 times more (considering the price of the Lamborghini or Porche )

Although I's sure someone will comment about speed and performance and say that pentax does not have the comparitive performance of Lamborghini or Porche compared to ford and camry.

**tranq78** · 11-04-2008, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by kenyee

If wheatfield ever decides to dump Pentax, us vultures are going to have a field day :-)

The line forms to the left, behind me. I've already staked first dibs on Wheatfield's Pentax gear.

Sebbe_J · 11-04-2008, 11:43 AM

Hehe, that's really nice to hear!

Hmm, there was one more thing.. hmm.. yeah, right, when are you going to send over some of that gear to me? : )

Cheers

11-04-2008, 08:02 AM	#1
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981	Why do I stay with Pentax? Because it p!sses you lot off. Seriously though, yesterday I had to shoot the head and shoulders portrait for a new photographer at the studio. She actually asked me to use one of the Nikons because my Pentax lenses are too good. I happened to have the A50/1.2 on the K20, so I smiled and told her this isn't one of my best lenses (true enough). I set the lights up, a very simple set-up where I blasted the white muslin with a 600watt monolight, and used a single head behind me and to my left, and a reflector hung beside the background light for fill. No tricks here, just very straighforward lighting. The studio owner walked by as we were shooting and chuckled a little at my lighting, but carried on. When we opened the files in Lightroom his jaw literally dropped. He told me that if he had used that lighting set-up with his Nikkor lenses, the images would have been ruined by veiling flare. I've shot Pentax for so long now, I've forgotten what veiling flare is. That's all. Last edited by Wheatfield; 11-04-2008 at 08:15 AM.

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11-04-2008, 08:49 AM	#2
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	this made me smile from ear to ear.

11-04-2008, 08:56 AM	#3
Venturi Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tulsa, OK Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,636	Thanks for that. Now I gotta clean coffee off my monitor....

11-04-2008, 09:01 AM	#4
Ron Boggs Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: MT Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,349	Yeah, it isn't like we all just accidentally ended up shooting with Pentax equipment. Though more Camry autos and Ford Trucks are sold than any other, that doesn't mean Lamborghini or Porche are not worth choosing. Similar metaphor with Pentax. So what if more "me too's" choose the same old canon and nikon stuff? So what if Ford, canon and nikon have more accessory choices than Porche or Pentax? So what if they offer more models to choose from? If Pentax or Porche offers the model you want to run with, then all those other choices really don't matter do they? Like you Wheatfield, I really like the way my Pentax stuff works and I like the images that result. Some people jump brands all the time and not just with photo equipment...some don't. I kindof like it when I'm standing with 50 photographers shooting at a moose in Denali and I'm the only one shooting Pentax...or standing with 100 in Yellowstone shooting an elk and I'm the only one with a big silver lens. Great conversation starter...We could have chosen to spend 5x the money for Leica equipment and had even less accessory and model choices and been a part of an even smaller market niche. If everyone is wearing Nike shoes, I'm likely to wear hiking boots. Remember when Calvin Klein jeans were such a big deal (dating myself here)? Bet Wheatfield didn't wear them either! Enjoy your Pentax gear Wheatfield!

11-04-2008, 09:33 AM	#5
UliBär Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Braunschweig, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 59	Ha, that's a good one! Go Pentax!

11-04-2008, 09:47 AM	#6
Miserere Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Boston Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,993	"veiling flare"...I had to look that up in the Photographer's Dictionary

11-04-2008, 10:00 AM	#7
Ron Boggs Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: MT Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,349	Just got an email warning me that Wheatfield isn't really a Pentax fan. Yeah, yeah, I've seen all the posts, but reading between the lines, it's the results that still keep Wheatfield and plenty of others playing the Pentax game. Sure, he looks at other bodies, but keeps the Pentax. I look at other women's bodies but have no plans of trading in my wife for a newer model. So no I won't get a Klondike Bar (U.S. advert)...

11-04-2008, 10:24 AM	#8
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981 Original Poster	Me? Not a Pentax fan? Really? I suppose it's unlikely that I'd own this much Pentax gear if I didn't have a fairly strong brand preference.... Perhaps because I am also a fairly acerbic individual who doesn't suffer the fools who are fanboys..... And Calvin Kleins always made my ass look too big.

11-04-2008, 10:48 AM	#9
tranq78 Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,005	I spy the mythical FA200 macro! But where's the lens hood for it? Originally posted by Wheatfield Me? Not a Pentax fan? Really? I suppose it's unlikely that I'd own this much Pentax gear if I didn't have a fairly strong brand preference.... Perhaps because I am also a fairly acerbic individual who doesn't suffer the fools who are fanboys..... And Calvin Kleins always made my ass look too big.

11-04-2008, 10:58 AM	#10
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981 Original Poster	Originally posted by tranq78 I spy the mythical FA200 macro! But where's the lens hood for it? Off to the left, along with a pile of lens caps. That was an interesting acquisition. The lens came recommended to me by a couple of fellows, so I set about to find one. Pentax Canada told me it was discontinued, but somehow the rep found one in someones kit (I believe in the USA). Anyway, PCI imported it, refurbished it for me and sold it to me for ~1/3 of new price. So I took the money I "saved" and put it towards the near mythical A600/5.6. That was a very good month to be me.

11-04-2008, 11:09 AM	#11
kenyee Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston, PRofMA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,026	If wheatfield ever decides to dump Pentax, us vultures are going to have a field day :-)

11-04-2008, 11:19 AM	#12
legacyb4 Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Tri-Cities, British Columbia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,784	I've only ever seen the 600mm in the Pentax Gallery in Tokyo; that thing was massive and let me check out peeps across the street who never had the faintest clue they were being watched... Originally posted by Wheatfield So I took the money I "saved" and put it towards the near mythical A600/5.6.

11-04-2008, 11:20 AM	#13
Lowell Goudge Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,888	Originally posted by Ron Boggs Yeah, it isn't like we all just accidentally ended up shooting with Pentax equipment. Though more Camry autos and Ford Trucks are sold than any other, that doesn't mean Lamborghini or Porche are not worth choosing. Similar metaphor with Pentax. So what if more "me too's" choose the same old canon and nikon stuff? So what if Ford, canon and nikon have more accessory choices than Porche or Pentax? So what if they offer more models to choose from? If Pentax or Porche offers the model you want to run with, then all those other choices really don't matter do they? Like you Wheatfield, I really like the way my Pentax stuff works and I like the images that result. Some people jump brands all the time and not just with photo equipment...some don't. I kindof like it when I'm standing with 50 photographers shooting at a moose in Denali and I'm the only one shooting Pentax...or standing with 100 in Yellowstone shooting an elk and I'm the only one with a big silver lens. Great conversation starter...We could have chosen to spend 5x the money for Leica equipment and had even less accessory and model choices and been a part of an even smaller market niche. If everyone is wearing Nike shoes, I'm likely to wear hiking boots. Remember when Calvin Klein jeans were such a big deal (dating myself here)? Bet Wheatfield didn't wear them either! Enjoy your Pentax gear Wheatfield! you need a better metaphore. while it is true that if you look at the ratios od fords and camry's sold, against Lamborghini or Porche might truely represent the ratio of sales of Nikon and Canon vs Pentax, somehow, the price ratio is backwards, the equivelent performance pentax lens and body is usually less than canon or nikon, not 10 times more (considering the price of the Lamborghini or Porche ) Although I's sure someone will comment about speed and performance and say that pentax does not have the comparitive performance of Lamborghini or Porche compared to ford and camry.

11-04-2008, 11:28 AM	#14
tranq78 Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,005	Originally posted by kenyee If wheatfield ever decides to dump Pentax, us vultures are going to have a field day :-) The line forms to the left, behind me. I've already staked first dibs on Wheatfield's Pentax gear.

11-04-2008, 11:43 AM	#15
Sebbe_J Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Växjö Photos: Gallery Posts: 127	Hehe, that's really nice to hear! Hmm, there was one more thing.. hmm.. yeah, right, when are you going to send over some of that gear to me? : ) Cheers