Can anyway help me understanding which lens those are??

Harbaror · 09-08-2020, 05:29 AM

Hi,

I am new to this forum and also more or less new to photography.
I just bought a Pentax K1000 and now looking for a lens.
I live in Japan and found a coupe lenses I am interested in. Though I have already received a lot of help from many on this forum about lens, I just cant seem to understand which lens are the ones I am looking at.

So here are the three lenses I am looking at all smc 50mm f1.4 but the look is different and so is the price. Even between two lenses which seems to me to be identical, have a price difference of almost x3.

So, which lens am I actually looking at? And will the fit my K1000 Thank you

???? - SMC TAKUMAR 50mm f/1.4??????????PENTAX ????(???)? (¥11,800) ??????????

and the two identical lenses.

???? - Super Multi Coated Takumar 50mm f/1.4 ????(???)? (¥11,800) ??????????

???? - ????????Super Takumar 50mm F1.4 ????(???)? (¥35,880) ??????????

**sergysergy** · 09-08-2020, 05:38 AM

The last one is a rarer version: Super-Takumar 50mm F1.4 (8-element variant) Reviews - M42 Screwmount Normal Primes - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database
The other two are more common: SMC/S-M-C/Super Takumar 50mm F1.4 Reviews - M42 Screwmount Normal Primes - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database

**pepperberry farm** · 09-08-2020, 05:39 AM

your K-1000 has a k-mount

all of the lenses listed are M42 mount and work on that body only if you have the correct adapter...

**UncleVanya** · 09-08-2020, 05:42 AM

I just want to be sure you are aware that these lenses do not fit your k1000 without an m42 adapter.

thazooo · 09-08-2020, 05:49 AM

None that you have listed is a direct fit to the K1000. Those are M42 screw mount, not the Bayonet mount, Known as the 'K' mount. You will need a m42 to K adapter to mount to the camera. Go to the lens data base on this site, scroll down to the film era lens section and look under the K, M, and A prime lens sections. All 3 of those sections have lenses that will fit your camera.Then use their Proper name to search online.
Prices vary because of age, coatings, and condition. Good luck.

Harbaror · 09-08-2020, 06:13 AM

Thank you for pointing that out. I would have made a mistake.

I’ll look for it now.

About those letters, K M A, what do they actually mean?

Thank you

**jlstrawman** · 09-08-2020, 06:19 AM

Comprehensive Pentax Lens Guide - Gear Guides | PentaxForums.com

The forums have a wonderful search feature.

Kozlok · 09-08-2020, 06:36 AM

The simple version: K series is the first K-mount, The M series was redesigned to generally be smaller and lighter, and the A series introduced automatic aperture control.

SharkyCA · 09-08-2020, 06:39 AM

Originally posted by Harbaror

Thank you for pointing that out. I would have made a mistake.

I’ll look for it now.

About those letters, K M A, what do they actually mean?

Thank you

You can also check here, it is the web site run by the Pentaxforums.com Administrator, Adam. The Pentax K-mount Camera Lens Compatibility Chart

Cheers

Harbaror · 09-08-2020, 02:04 PM

Thank you very much.

I’ve been to that site and now i understand well.

One thing though, the A lenses, automatic aperture control, will that work on my pentax k1000?

**aslyfox** · 09-08-2020, 02:41 PM

not in A mode, you must set the aperture manually

this chart shows how various Pentax camera bodies work with different Pentax lens series:

Quote:

Pentax K-mount Lens Compatibility Chart
Copyright 2006-2020 Mosphotos.com. All rights reserved.

Pentax bayonet lenses labeled "SMC Pentax" are referred to as "K" lenses in the table below. Other Pentax bayonet lenses have the lens designation as a part of their name as in "SMC Pentax-FA".
Note that "star" lenses work like their "non-star" counterparts unless they are singled out in the table below. So for compatibility of a DA* lens which is not singled out, look under DA lenses, etc.
Exceptions:
FA and F "soft" lenses behave like M lenses in terms of metering.

The Pentax K-mount Camera Lens Compatibility Chart

look at the last line of the chart for the K 1000

Quote:

Exposure Modes-

M Manual exposure, you set shutter speed and aperture. Camera's exposure meter will indicate when the exposure setting is correct

_______________

Quote:

Description:
The iconic Pentax K1000 was Pentax's classic intro level film SLR, which gained a very high popularity among photography students due to its rugged build and low price.

The original K1000 was basically a KM without depth of field preview and self-timer. The K1000 became very successful and was produced from 1976 to 1997. The top and bottom plates were changed from metal to plastic in the final production run. In 1997, the ZX-M replaced the K1000 as Pentax's intro-level manual offering.

The main variants are the K1000 (black leather, microprism focusing aid) and the later K1000 SE (black or brown leather and with a split image focusing screen or a combination microprism/split image screen).

Read more at: Pentax K1000 - Pentax Manual Focus Film SLRs - Pentax Camera Reviews and Specifications

________________________

Harbaror · 09-08-2020, 02:59 PM

Wonderful.
Now it is all very very clear.

I think i will be able to choose the right lens with all this info.

My appreciated

D1N0 · 09-08-2020, 03:30 PM

This one will fit the K1000 without an adapter: ???? - ?????? SMC PENTAX 50mm f1.4 ????(???)? (¥5,880) ??????????

And so will this one: https://www.mercari.com/jp/items/m36747683029/

Harbaror · 09-08-2020, 04:39 PM

Originally posted by D1N0

This one will fit the K1000 without an adapter: ???? - ?????? SMC PENTAX 50mm f1.4 ????(???)? (¥5,880) ??????????

And so will this one: ???? - ?????? SMC PENTAX-M 50mm f1.4 ????(???)? (¥4,880) ??????????

WOW, that is really perfect! Do you live in Japan too?
Anyway, thank you so much.
I can see that one of them is the M 50mm, but the other one doesnt say anything whether it is M A K, I assume it is the K 50mm?!

thank you again.

---------- Post added 09-08-20 at 04:55 PM ----------

this one say smc Pentax M 50mm f1.4 on the title but on the lens the M isnt there. Is this lens a M or a K?
???? - PENTAX SMC PENTAX-M 50mm F1.4 ??????? ????(???)? (¥9,480) ??????????

**Just1MoreDave** · 09-08-2020, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by Harbaror

WOW, that is really perfect! Do you live in Japan too?
Anyway, thank you so much.
I can see that one of them is the M 50mm, but the other one doesnt say anything whether it is M A K, I assume it is the K 50mm?!

thank you again.

---------- Post added 09-08-20 at 04:55 PM ----------

this one say smc Pentax M 50mm f1.4 on the title but on the lens the M isnt there. Is this lens a M or a K?
???? - PENTAX SMC PENTAX-M 50mm F1.4 ??????? ????(???)? (¥9,480) ??????????

The first K-mount lenses just say "SMC PENTAX". All of the series that followed have a letter designation: -M, -A or whatever. We often call the first series Pentax-K just to specify the first series, but the official name has no letter.

The first-series SMC PENTAX lenses are slightly larger, generally built extremely well and all built in Japan. Usually they sell for more. The Pentax-M lenses are more compact with different coatings and optical formulas. They did some cost-cutting, but very few lenses have failed even 40 years later by themselves. The bad lenses fail by being dropped or some other bad event.

For all the lenses after the M series, you might be paying extra for features that the K1000 can't use. Quality diverges too. The A series has some cheap ordinary lenses and some ultimate quality lenses.

09-08-2020, 05:29 AM	#1
Harbaror Guest	Can anyway help me understanding which lens those are?? Hi, I am new to this forum and also more or less new to photography. I just bought a Pentax K1000 and now looking for a lens. I live in Japan and found a coupe lenses I am interested in. Though I have already received a lot of help from many on this forum about lens, I just cant seem to understand which lens are the ones I am looking at. So here are the three lenses I am looking at all smc 50mm f1.4 but the look is different and so is the price. Even between two lenses which seems to me to be identical, have a price difference of almost x3. So, which lens am I actually looking at? And will the fit my K1000 Thank you ???? - SMC TAKUMAR 50mm f/1.4??????????PENTAX ????(???)? (¥11,800) ?????????? and the two identical lenses. ???? - Super Multi Coated Takumar 50mm f/1.4 ????(???)? (¥11,800) ?????????? ???? - ????????Super Takumar 50mm F1.4 ????(???)? (¥35,880) ??????????

09-08-2020, 02:41 PM	#11
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,579	not in A mode, you must set the aperture manually this chart shows how various Pentax camera bodies work with different Pentax lens series: Quote: Pentax K-mount Lens Compatibility Chart Copyright 2006-2020 Mosphotos.com. All rights reserved. Pentax bayonet lenses labeled "SMC Pentax" are referred to as "K" lenses in the table below. Other Pentax bayonet lenses have the lens designation as a part of their name as in "SMC Pentax-FA". Note that "star" lenses work like their "non-star" counterparts unless they are singled out in the table below. So for compatibility of a DA* lens which is not singled out, look under DA lenses, etc. Exceptions: FA and F "soft" lenses behave like M lenses in terms of metering. The Pentax K-mount Camera Lens Compatibility Chart look at the last line of the chart for the K 1000 Quote: Exposure Modes- M Manual exposure, you set shutter speed and aperture. Camera's exposure meter will indicate when the exposure setting is correct _______________ Quote: Description: The iconic Pentax K1000 was Pentax's classic intro level film SLR, which gained a very high popularity among photography students due to its rugged build and low price. The original K1000 was basically a KM without depth of field preview and self-timer. The K1000 became very successful and was produced from 1976 to 1997. The top and bottom plates were changed from metal to plastic in the final production run. In 1997, the ZX-M replaced the K1000 as Pentax's intro-level manual offering. The main variants are the K1000 (black leather, microprism focusing aid) and the later K1000 SE (black or brown leather and with a split image focusing screen or a combination microprism/split image screen). Read more at: Pentax K1000 - Pentax Manual Focus Film SLRs - Pentax Camera Reviews and Specifications ________________________ Last edited by aslyfox; 09-08-2020 at 02:52 PM.

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09-08-2020, 05:38 AM	#2
sergysergy Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,168	The last one is a rarer version: Super-Takumar 50mm F1.4 (8-element variant) Reviews - M42 Screwmount Normal Primes - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database The other two are more common: SMC/S-M-C/Super Takumar 50mm F1.4 Reviews - M42 Screwmount Normal Primes - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database

09-08-2020, 05:39 AM	#3
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,636	your K-1000 has a k-mount all of the lenses listed are M42 mount and work on that body only if you have the correct adapter...

09-08-2020, 05:42 AM	#4
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,385	I just want to be sure you are aware that these lenses do not fit your k1000 without an m42 adapter.

09-08-2020, 05:49 AM	#5
thazooo Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 854	None that you have listed is a direct fit to the K1000. Those are M42 screw mount, not the Bayonet mount, Known as the 'K' mount. You will need a m42 to K adapter to mount to the camera. Go to the lens data base on this site, scroll down to the film era lens section and look under the K, M, and A prime lens sections. All 3 of those sections have lenses that will fit your camera.Then use their Proper name to search online. Prices vary because of age, coatings, and condition. Good luck.

09-08-2020, 06:13 AM	#6
Harbaror Guest	Thank you for pointing that out. I would have made a mistake. I’ll look for it now. About those letters, K M A, what do they actually mean? Thank you

09-08-2020, 06:19 AM	#7
jlstrawman Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Midwest US Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,058	Comprehensive Pentax Lens Guide - Gear Guides \| PentaxForums.com The forums have a wonderful search feature.

09-08-2020, 06:36 AM	#8
Kozlok Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Albuquerque Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,148	The simple version: K series is the first K-mount, The M series was redesigned to generally be smaller and lighter, and the A series introduced automatic aperture control.

09-08-2020, 06:39 AM	#9
SharkyCA Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Carleton Place, Ontario, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 806	Originally posted by Harbaror Thank you for pointing that out. I would have made a mistake. I’ll look for it now. About those letters, K M A, what do they actually mean? Thank you You can also check here, it is the web site run by the Pentaxforums.com Administrator, Adam. The Pentax K-mount Camera Lens Compatibility Chart Cheers

09-08-2020, 02:04 PM	#10
Harbaror Guest	Thank you very much. I’ve been to that site and now i understand well. One thing though, the A lenses, automatic aperture control, will that work on my pentax k1000?

09-08-2020, 02:59 PM	#12
Harbaror Guest	Wonderful. Now it is all very very clear. I think i will be able to choose the right lens with all this info. My appreciated

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09-08-2020, 03:30 PM	#13
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	This one will fit the K1000 without an adapter: ???? - ?????? SMC PENTAX 50mm f1.4 ????(???)? (¥5,880) ?????????? And so will this one: https://www.mercari.com/jp/items/m36747683029/

09-08-2020, 04:39 PM	#14
Harbaror Guest	Originally posted by D1N0 This one will fit the K1000 without an adapter: ???? - ?????? SMC PENTAX 50mm f1.4 ????(???)? (¥5,880) ?????????? And so will this one: ???? - ?????? SMC PENTAX-M 50mm f1.4 ????(???)? (¥4,880) ?????????? WOW, that is really perfect! Do you live in Japan too? Anyway, thank you so much. I can see that one of them is the M 50mm, but the other one doesnt say anything whether it is M A K, I assume it is the K 50mm?! thank you again. ---------- Post added 09-08-20 at 04:55 PM ---------- this one say smc Pentax M 50mm f1.4 on the title but on the lens the M isnt there. Is this lens a M or a K? ???? - PENTAX SMC PENTAX-M 50mm F1.4 ??????? ????(???)? (¥9,480) ??????????

09-08-2020, 06:24 PM	#15
Just1MoreDave Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Aurora, CO Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,339	Originally posted by Harbaror WOW, that is really perfect! Do you live in Japan too? Anyway, thank you so much. I can see that one of them is the M 50mm, but the other one doesnt say anything whether it is M A K, I assume it is the K 50mm?! thank you again. ---------- Post added 09-08-20 at 04:55 PM ---------- this one say smc Pentax M 50mm f1.4 on the title but on the lens the M isnt there. Is this lens a M or a K? ???? - PENTAX SMC PENTAX-M 50mm F1.4 ??????? ????(???)? (¥9,480) ?????????? The first K-mount lenses just say "SMC PENTAX". All of the series that followed have a letter designation: -M, -A or whatever. We often call the first series Pentax-K just to specify the first series, but the official name has no letter. The first-series SMC PENTAX lenses are slightly larger, generally built extremely well and all built in Japan. Usually they sell for more. The Pentax-M lenses are more compact with different coatings and optical formulas. They did some cost-cutting, but very few lenses have failed even 40 years later by themselves. The bad lenses fail by being dropped or some other bad event. For all the lenses after the M series, you might be paying extra for features that the K1000 can't use. Quality diverges too. The A series has some cheap ordinary lenses and some ultimate quality lenses.