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Lev · 09-23-2020, 11:33 AM

So which K mount lenses are able to produce this beautiful, creamy, swirly bokeh like Auto-Takumar 35mm f2.3, Biotar 75mm...etc?

::hands on face::

stevebrot · 09-23-2020, 11:46 AM - **1 Like**

You could adapt either of the lenses you mentioned. That failing...

KMZ Helios 44K-4 in either MC or non-MC versions. I found mine attached to a Zenit Automat.

Steve

Kozlok · 09-23-2020, 12:00 PM

The Takumar 35/2.3 is a special lens. I don’t think you’ll find much that will behave exactly like that. Best to get a Tak35/2.3 and an adapter.

Lev · 09-23-2020, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

You could adapt either of the lenses you mentioned. That failing...

KMZ Helios 44K-4 in either MC or non-MC versions. I found mine attached to a Zenit Automat.

Steve

Yep, have been thinking of Helios but 40-2 85mm, quite expensive.

---------- Post added 09-23-20 at 12:58 PM ----------

Originally posted by Kozlok

The Takumar 35/2.3 is a special lens. I don’t think you’ll find much that will behave exactly like that. Best to get a Tak35/2.3 and an adapter.

Really impressive images I've seen, yes. I've just also heard that it's very hard to get good copy.

bdery · 09-23-2020, 01:01 PM - **1 Like**

Lensbaby Burnside 35mm F2.8 Review - Introduction | PentaxForums.com Reviews

Certainly a candidate!*I loved my time with it.

**FozzFoster** · 09-23-2020, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by bdery

Certainly a candidate!*I loved my time with it.

+1, came here to recommend LensBaby

Lev · 09-23-2020, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by bdery

Lensbaby Burnside 35mm F2.8 Review - Introduction | PentaxForums.com Reviews

Certainly a candidate!*I loved my time with it.

Reading a review of it, really good thing. Terrible edge sharpness by the way but who cares, it's an art lens really!

**FozzFoster** · 09-23-2020, 02:55 PM - **4 Likes**

However, if I may suggest, buy a KMZ Helios 44-2 58mm f/2 in M42 mount.
Buy a genuine M42 screw lens to K-Mount body adapter.
Even with APS-C bodies, you can achieve nice swirl
Here's my wife and a plant

**boriscleto** · 09-23-2020, 03:49 PM

The Helios 44M (original with 8 blades & A/M switch) produces the same bokeh as the 44-2. I'll bet the 44K does as well...

Lev · 09-23-2020, 04:22 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by boriscleto

The Helios 44M (original with 8 blades & A/M switch) produces the same bokeh as the 44-2. I'll bet the 44K does as well...

If I'm not mistaken 44m was produced lately, and as I know this character goes away accordingly from 44-2 to past.

**boriscleto** · 09-23-2020, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by Lev

If I'm not mistaken 44m was produced lately, and as I know this character goes away accordingly from 44-2 to past.

My 44M produces swirl even on APS-C, the wide base means it doesn't wobble like the 44-2. The first version of the 44M began production in the 1970s but mine is post Soviet, produced in Belarus in the early 90s for export.

**BigMackCam** · 09-23-2020, 11:18 PM - **3 Likes**

I briefly compared three variants a few years back and found them more or less equal in terms of the swirl effect:

Which Helios-44 produces the best "swirl"... 44-2, 44M & 44M-4 tested - PentaxForums.com

Lev · 09-24-2020, 02:02 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by BigMackCam

I briefly compared three variants a few years back and found them more or less equal in terms of the swirl effect:

Which Helios-44 produces the best "swirl"... 44-2, 44M & 44M-4 tested - PentaxForums.com

Great post!!

bdery · 09-24-2020, 05:24 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by FozzFoster

Here's my wife and a plant

I wonder if the swirl of the lady is the actual subject of this image?

Lev · 09-24-2020, 07:06 AM

Originally posted by bdery

I wonder if the swirl of the lady is the actual subject of this image?

I think it's slightly recomposed to the left, isn't it?

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09-23-2020, 11:46 AM - 1 Like	#2
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	You could adapt either of the lenses you mentioned. That failing... KMZ Helios 44K-4 in either MC or non-MC versions. I found mine attached to a Zenit Automat. Steve

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Kozlok Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Albuquerque Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,148	The Takumar 35/2.3 is a special lens. I don’t think you’ll find much that will behave exactly like that. Best to get a Tak35/2.3 and an adapter.

09-23-2020, 12:53 PM	#4
Lev Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Tbilisi, Georgia Posts: 1,197 Original Poster	Originally posted by stevebrot You could adapt either of the lenses you mentioned. That failing... KMZ Helios 44K-4 in either MC or non-MC versions. I found mine attached to a Zenit Automat. Steve Yep, have been thinking of Helios but 40-2 85mm, quite expensive. ---------- Post added 09-23-20 at 12:58 PM ---------- Originally posted by Kozlok The Takumar 35/2.3 is a special lens. I don’t think you’ll find much that will behave exactly like that. Best to get a Tak35/2.3 and an adapter. Really impressive images I've seen, yes. I've just also heard that it's very hard to get good copy.

09-23-2020, 01:01 PM - 1 Like	#5
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,363	Lensbaby Burnside 35mm F2.8 Review - Introduction \| PentaxForums.com Reviews Certainly a candidate!*I loved my time with it.

09-23-2020, 01:28 PM	#6
FozzFoster Custom User Title Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Alberta Photos: Albums Posts: 6,808	Originally posted by bdery Certainly a candidate!*I loved my time with it. +1, came here to recommend LensBaby

09-23-2020, 01:37 PM	#7
Lev Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Tbilisi, Georgia Posts: 1,197 Original Poster	Originally posted by bdery Lensbaby Burnside 35mm F2.8 Review - Introduction \| PentaxForums.com Reviews Certainly a candidate!*I loved my time with it. Reading a review of it, really good thing. Terrible edge sharpness by the way but who cares, it's an art lens really!

09-23-2020, 03:49 PM	#9
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	The Helios 44M (original with 8 blades & A/M switch) produces the same bokeh as the 44-2. I'll bet the 44K does as well...

09-23-2020, 04:22 PM - 1 Like	#10
Lev Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Tbilisi, Georgia Posts: 1,197 Original Poster	Originally posted by boriscleto The Helios 44M (original with 8 blades & A/M switch) produces the same bokeh as the 44-2. I'll bet the 44K does as well... If I'm not mistaken 44m was produced lately, and as I know this character goes away accordingly from 44-2 to past.

09-23-2020, 06:06 PM	#11
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	Originally posted by Lev If I'm not mistaken 44m was produced lately, and as I know this character goes away accordingly from 44-2 to past. My 44M produces swirl even on APS-C, the wide base means it doesn't wobble like the 44-2. The first version of the 44M began production in the 1970s but mine is post Soviet, produced in Belarus in the early 90s for export.

09-23-2020, 11:18 PM - 3 Likes	#12
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,705	I briefly compared three variants a few years back and found them more or less equal in terms of the swirl effect: Which Helios-44 produces the best "swirl"... 44-2, 44M & 44M-4 tested - PentaxForums.com

09-24-2020, 02:02 AM - 1 Like	#13
Lev Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Tbilisi, Georgia Posts: 1,197 Original Poster	Originally posted by BigMackCam I briefly compared three variants a few years back and found them more or less equal in terms of the swirl effect: Which Helios-44 produces the best "swirl"... 44-2, 44M & 44M-4 tested - PentaxForums.com Great post!!

09-24-2020, 05:24 AM - 1 Like	#14
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,363	Originally posted by FozzFoster Here's my wife and a plant I wonder if the swirl of the lady is the actual subject of this image?

09-24-2020, 07:06 AM	#15
Lev Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Tbilisi, Georgia Posts: 1,197 Original Poster	Originally posted by bdery I wonder if the swirl of the lady is the actual subject of this image? I think it's slightly recomposed to the left, isn't it?

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