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12-15-2020, 05:08 PM   #121
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QuoteOriginally posted by Pål Jensen Quote
Have you used the FA* 600/4? I owned one for 20 years. I rather have the 560mm at half the price and weight. I suspect that the 560 is sharper too. The 600/ weights close to 7kg + a tripod able to support it.
These are shot with the 600/4:





No I haven't owned it! But I have been comparing pics taken with these two lenses for ages. Raw files. The 560 doesn't come near the 600mm rendering..

I don't think it's twice the price. Their prices are pretty close!

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QuoteOriginally posted by Pål Jensen Quote
Have you used the FA* 600/4? I owned one for 20 years. I rather have the 560mm at half the price and weight. I suspect that the 560 is sharper too. The 600/ weights close to 7kg + a tripod able to support it.
These are shot with the 600/4:





Lovely photos!

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I don't think it's twice the price. Their prices are pretty close!
The FA* 600mm f4 used is around 6000€. A copy of the DA560 is ~3000€. So just half the price of an FA* in the same condition.
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QuoteOriginally posted by angerdan Quote
The FA* 600mm f4 used is around 6000€. A copy of the DA560 is ~3000€. So just half the price of an FA* in the same condition.
I thought you were talking about the current prices on the used market. My bad
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The 560 has been discontinued in Japan, but not yet in the US.

The Pentax DA 560mm f/5.6 ED AW APS-C lens for K-mount is discontinued - Pentax Rumors

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The 560 has been discontinued in Japan
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HD PENTAX-DA 560mmF5.6ED AW discontinued?

According to ??????????HD PENTAX-DA 560mmF5.6ED AW????? | ????????????? HD PENTAX-DA 560mmF5.6ED AW is discontinued. Translation.

I hope that it is not true - because we've got K-3 III that is suitable for sports/birds shooting.

Or there is going to be a replacement?
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Discontinued Lens for Digital single-lens reflex camera / Lens lineup/ Lenses / Products | RICOH IMAGING

The official list of discontinued lenses indeed contains the DA 560mm.

As for the replacement... I wouldn't hold my breath.

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It's still on the roadmaps, but yes, definitely discontinued. I doubt many were ever sold. This may just be a statement that they've run out of stock made years ago.

May we hope for a more conventional extreme telephoto FF prime?
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Call me first in a pre order line for HD DFA* 300mm F/2.8 SDM SR ED AW and a matched 2xTC

(...like that's ever gonna happen...)

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QuoteOriginally posted by BarneyL Quote
Call me first in a pre order line for HD DFA* 300mm F/2.8 SDM SR ED AW and a matched 2xTC

(...like that's ever gonna happen...)
More likely with a PLM or DC motor!
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still for sale https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/891523-USA/Pentax_DA_560mm_f_5_6_ED.h...981&
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YEHA!!!
Get rid of the placeholder, hoping for something more interesting. The 560 was too long, only DA, not *, closest focus 5,6 m.
2.8/300 with TC would be one option, Fresnel design is another option.

New * glass with FF-capable TCs is the most obvious solution. Focal length between 500-600 need to be covered.
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The DA 560 is a great lens in many ways, but the K-3iii instead of making it better highlighted its cons. It is the worst tele-lens in terms of AF tracking capabilities. The DFA 150-450 is a joy to use, while the DA 560 needs concentration and effort to fully utilize it. I have found many things while playing around with the K-3iii these last days using the DFA*70-200/2.8 (sometimes with the 1.4X TC), the DFA 150-450 and the DA 560. The DFA 150-450 is the telephoto lens for the K-3iii offering fast AF, great tracking and a lot of reach. The DA 560 is not much faster to AF on the K-3iii and while when the AF is spot on the IQ is impressive, it is difficult to follow BIF (in circumstances where the DFA does very effectively) and also the camera seems not to cooperate so well with the big lens. 2-3 times it stuck after I had changed some settings and I feel it has to do with the AF area that is restricted with the DA. Also sometimes during a burst the shutter/mirror sound is weaker like it didn't function properly! The images I checked where OK though, so I don't know exactly what's happening


I have made other observations too I might find the time and mood to write about but as a conclusion the K-3iii AF is very reliable and fast even in AF-C tracking but it highly depends on the lens. With the DFA* and DFA lenses it is great. In fact I can track swallows flying low and in random tracks (their usual chaotic flying style) and during a burst even if the camera loose focus it will eventually find your subject again after a few frames while tracking! The DA 560 cannot track so fast subjects and also you need to have found focus prior to releasing the shutter otherwise the whole sequence will most probably be out of focus. There are some exceptions but few in comparison to other lenses. I'm very impressed by the DFA*70-200/2.8 performance even with the HD 1.4TC! Unfortunately I don't have the 55-300 PLM to compare which I think it will be even better, unless the faster glass makes the difference in the new K-3iii AF performance, which might be possible too.

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QuoteOriginally posted by zapp Quote
YEHA!!!
Get rid of the placeholder, hoping for something more interesting. The 560 was too long, only DA, not *, closest focus 5,6 m.
2.8/300 with TC would be one option, Fresnel design is another option.

New * glass with FF-capable TCs is the most obvious solution. Focal length between 500-600 need to be covered.
I have trouble getting a bird within the viewfinder of my DA 77-420mm {55-300mm PLM + 1.4X TC}, so I would certainly not be in the market for anything more restrictive and massive;
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