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11-14-2008, 02:23 PM   #1
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Takumars - 35mm

After reading so much about Takumars on this site, I want to grab one (which will probably lead to several). With my current lens line-up I have a big hole at 35mm which equals a normal on DSLR. I also want to use it on my ME Super.

Anyways, I've found the 35/2 and the 35/3.5. The f2 seem to be around two times more expensive and though I would love the speed, I think I would do just fine with a f3.5. Is there anything I need to know about these lenses, maybe go for one over the other?

Any help would be appreciated!

11-14-2008, 02:29 PM   #2
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i have both

and.. they are both different, atleast my 3.5 is not yellowed like the 2.0, which makes the 2.0 seem darker/yellower in the view finder.


if you dont need the speed the 3.5 is perfectly fine

also, the 35 f3.5 can give the DA40 a run for its mony in terms of size, its slightly longer but its overall diamater is less, it looks hilarious in the palm of your hand.
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mflenses.com has something about this. . . let me check. . .

here it is:
Manual Focus Lenses :: View topic - Test of 8 M42 35mm lenses

I'd get the 35/3.5.
11-14-2008, 03:04 PM   #4
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I have an Super Multi Coated Takumar 35m F2,

I put off venturing into the M42 lenses for a long time, (hoping to stay K mount only) but found this one.

It has not yellowed at all and is a dream to use.

took this just playing around
posted it on the Takumar club thread also
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/attachments/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/21...-club-eyes.jpg

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The 35/3.5 is one of the better Takumars Pentax ever made. Within its design brief it is brilliant, sharp, and even toned. The downsides? Put a polarizer on one and try to focus

I don't have any experience of the f/2 version.
11-14-2008, 04:16 PM   #6
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QuoteOriginally posted by Gooshin Quote
i have both

and.. they are both different, atleast my 3.5 is not yellowed like the 2.0, which makes the 2.0 seem darker/yellower in the view finder.


if you dont need the speed the 3.5 is perfectly fine

also, the 35 f3.5 can give the DA40 a run for its mony in terms of size, its slightly longer but its overall diamater is less, it looks hilarious in the palm of your hand.
By the way, the fix for yellowing is to subject the lens to direct sunlight or some another UV light source. I couldn't count on the Sun, so I bought a inexpensive fluorescent black light from a novelty store, the kind usually used to illuminate glow-in-the-dark posters. One week of exposure was enough to turn my lens (Super Tak 50mm f/1.4) water white again.
11-14-2008, 07:05 PM   #7
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There is a Super Takumar 35/2 available on my regular auction site with a very nice BIN price....which I can not swing at the moment (my wife would kill me....all the more since I am today awaiting delivery of my Canon Pixus Pro9000 printer).

The S-M-C Takumar 35/3.5 I do have does such a superb job that I can put acquiring a 35/2 on the back burner for the time being.

Some samples from the 35/3.5

As I have stated before, the only regret I have about the 35/3.5 is that I didn't buy one sooner than I did.
11-14-2008, 07:46 PM   #8
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Unlike many Takumar 35/2 lenses, the 35/3.5 glass never turns amber.

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11-15-2008, 02:33 AM   #9
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My 35mm f/3.5 is crispy sharp .... it is one I haven't used in a while ... but works well for wandering around with outdoors ... and the colour/contrast rendition is awesome.

If shooting outdoors and for scenes ... the speed really shouldn't bother you ... stop this lens down and it gets sharper.
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As mentioned, yellowing it's a "problem" with the 35/2, as it can be fixed quite easily with UV exposure.

I haven't tried the 35/3.5 but from experience with the 35/2 they should compare quite well.

A few characteristics about the 35/2 (no PP on ths shots):
- Wide open, it gives a little bit of a highlight bloom, soft-focus like quality. This is similar to many other takumars of the era.


- Wide open also gives harsher, ringed bokeh in circumstances (no samples since I don't shoot under these circumstances
- When stopped down to f2.8, the blooming clears up and the bokeh becomes VERY pleaseing in moderate close-up situations:

- Also VERY sharp by f2.8 and blistering by f4:


Overall a versatile lens. You would do well with either lens, but it seems for the price the f3.5 version is a great deal if you don't need the speed.
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if the F3.5 never yellows ( i know mine is prestine white, almost has a blue glow to it), that means that compared to the F2.0, it lacks either a coating or an element.

which means fundemantaly there is a difference between these things.
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I have the 3.5 and it is an awesome lens. Just a joy to use for just the heck of it photography
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the 3.5 just lacks a type of glass/glue that yellows due to radioactivity. The f/2 is like the 50/1.4 in that respect.

For me, the 3.5 makes another 35mm Takumar unnecessary. For speed I'd go more modern.
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For the price of entry trying a decent Tak is a no brainer.

Sure a modern wide ranging zoom is easier to use. But try spending a good outing with a nice Tak and you might like the feel of the lens, its brightness through the viewfinder, the slightly lower contrast, the "dreaminess" wide open, etc, etc. The focusing on these lenses is so smooth as well.

Some cameras might not be the perfect manual focusing machine though. Quite of then the focus screen is not that accurate for fast manual focus lenses. New digital cameras also feature bright focus screens without much matte contrast, which can make fine manual focusing difficult. Sometimes folks will think a manual focus lens is not that sharp wide open, but it is usually focusing issues with the human eye and modern cameras that are to blame.

But try it. Shooting with primes lenses will make you think about framing your shots more and make you move around instead of standing there zooming back and forth...

Max
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