Forgot Password
Pentax Camera Forums Home
 

Reply
Show Printable Version Search this Thread
07-01-2021, 05:19 AM   #16
Pentaxian




Join Date: May 2015
Photos: Albums
Posts: 2,986
The photos are a bit boring and chaotic, not really considered compositions. Usually tele lenses clean up most views into abstract cuts. Strangely this gallery looks more like what you get from a normal or moderate wide. I like the city though, has a river, has proper working sites has what looks like some kind of urban center.

The images actually look quite good if you get used to the way of framing. Colours and contrast are excellent. Those against the light shots have great clarity, like the pylon and the street lights.

There's no hiding the ca though. Seeing that much purple in the cabin roof isn't great at all. It's a pretty severe limitation of the lens.

07-01-2021, 08:31 AM   #17
Otis Memorial Pentaxian
Loyal Site Supporter
stevebrot's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Vancouver (USA)
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 42,007
QuoteOriginally posted by c.a.m Quote
I wonder if the photographer wasn't aware of the unique characteristics of the 77, and didn't exploit its strengths.
I own the original FA 77 so can't comment directly regarding the HD version except to say that I truly have never thought about exploiting the lens' strength. I just do photography and the pixies do their thing. Here is some near and far bokeh from the original as well as some highlight disks.


Pentax K-3, Pentax-FA 77/1.8 Limited (non-HD)

...and a bike race, just for good measure...


Pentax K10D, Pentax-FA 77/1.8 Limited (non-HD)



Steve
07-01-2021, 09:00 AM   #18
Site Supporter
Site Supporter




Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Hampshire, UK
Posts: 1,536
I'd like to think "so what" and "ignore". However, this constant chipping away from folk that don't understand and dislike the brand, does eat away at Pentax's reputation. The Pentax system is far from perfect, but it's mostly better than the users who use it. Bad publicity probably reduces sales and ultimately investment. Refuting bad reviews may help redress the balance, but probably better to just create great photographs and tag them with Pentax/Ricoh.
07-01-2021, 09:04 AM   #19
Site Supporter
Site Supporter
ffking's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Llanelli, Wales
Posts: 5,751
Yeah - the shots are pretty random to me - including f./1.8 landscape as an opener!?

Incidentally, the cycle shots are about the only ones that show the 3-D pop - and there the shutter speed is wrong - either too high or too low, so there's a smudge of blur that doesn't look intentional

07-01-2021, 09:07 AM   #20
Site Supporter
Site Supporter
ffking's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Llanelli, Wales
Posts: 5,751
QuoteOriginally posted by BarryE Quote
probably better to just create great photographs and tag them with Pentax/Ricoh.
Yup - that's what I do every day
07-01-2021, 01:54 PM   #21
Site Supporter
Site Supporter
jersey's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: 3City agglomeration
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 1,514
QuoteOriginally posted by BarryE Quote
probably better to just create great photographs and tag them with Pentax/Ricoh.
I created Instagram account just to post photos with #pentax tag
07-01-2021, 03:13 PM   #22
Loyal Site Supporter
Loyal Site Supporter
kiwi_jono's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Christchurch, New Zealand
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 2,419
To be fair I don't think they ever seek to take award winning photos, more representative shots.
Sure more shots with 3D pop would be nice but realistically it takes a while with the 77 to consistently get those (or maybe its just it take me a while to learn a lens!). Ideally they would give it to someone with some 77 experience but thats probably not a realistic approach for every brand and lens they test.

I think the shots show some glimpses of the nice rendering but the dreaded PF shows up clearly too, which I'm sure will feature in conclusions!

07-01-2021, 03:24 PM   #23
Pentaxian




Join Date: May 2015
Photos: Albums
Posts: 2,986
They should shoot general photos and stress the lens to reveal weaknesses imho. It would be great if they also aim to show the strengths of a lens. I don't really think dpreview is the place for serious lens reviews though. They just run through a lot of gear very casually.
07-01-2021, 03:41 PM   #24
Senior Member




Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 241
I have have had the SMC version of the FA 77 for about 1 year now. Small, light, handle well, and sharp, but not clinically sharp. Like other's have said, not optically perfect. That said it helps deliver some really beautiful photograhs.
07-02-2021, 01:15 AM   #25
Site Supporter
Site Supporter




Join Date: Mar 2021
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 953
QuoteOriginally posted by c.a.m Quote
To my eye, the sample images do not do justice to this lens. I've seen many other images from the FA 77mm Limited that are almost jaw-dropping, but not in the DPReview gallery. In my opinion, many of the images could have been taken with almost any lens to produce the same bland effect.

I wonder if the photographer wasn't aware of the unique characteristics of the 77, and didn't exploit its strengths. Hard to understand the objective(s) of the exercise.

- Craig
This!, couldnt have put in better words.
07-02-2021, 01:44 AM   #26
Pentaxian




Join Date: May 2015
Photos: Albums
Posts: 2,986
QuoteOriginally posted by vijaykishan Quote
This!, couldnt have put in better words.
But you can make a selection of jawdropping photos from any lens. Thats largely up to the skill of the photographer. So whenever you browse flicr or pf you will see the best that person and lens can do.

I agree though that you need either more considered or more systematic photos for a review to be meaningful.
07-02-2021, 04:54 AM   #27
Site Supporter
Site Supporter




Join Date: Mar 2021
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 953
QuoteOriginally posted by house Quote
But you can make a selection of jawdropping photos from any lens. Thats largely up to the skill of the photographer. So whenever you browse flicr or pf you will see the best that person and lens can do.

I agree though that you need either more considered or more systematic photos for a review to be meaningful.
Of course, a skilled and creative photographer who understands the limitations AND strengthsof the tool/s at hand, is likely to exploit it to deliver his/hervision/creative-output. In this case, the exercise was to showcase the strengths and weakness of the lens and all we got was/is - meh. There seems to be a lack of understanding or even a willingness to understand SWOT, that is the cause of the apparent chagrin. Using a wonderfully made Katana to demonstrate how to make a salad is OK for comedic effect, but not in a review; sure it cuts veggies... you get the drift
07-02-2021, 07:25 AM   #28
Pentaxian
Jonathan Mac's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Madrid, Spain
Posts: 9,577
At least they're paying some attention to Pentax, and to one of the things that make the system unique.

07-02-2021, 08:09 AM   #29
JPT
Pentaxian




Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Tokyo
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 2,522
I agree that the images here are not very interesting, but the photographer does know Pentax well. I believe Mike Tompkins is a long-time Pentax user himself. I think his gallery for the 85mm was better.
07-02-2021, 02:58 PM   #30
Pentaxian




Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Romania
Posts: 15,084
QuoteOriginally posted by JPT Quote
I agree that the images here are not very interesting, but the photographer does know Pentax well. I believe Mike Tompkins is a long-time Pentax user himself. I think his gallery for the 85mm was better.
On some other forum, trolls "explained" to me how the D FA* 85mm f/1.4 was much inferior even to film era lenses, and had no chance when compared to modern ones - they used DPReview samples for that, Mike Tomkins' versus whoever shot with the RF 85mm.
I'm not na´ve enough to think that it only happened there.
Reply

Bookmarks
  • Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook
  • Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter
  • Submit Thread to Digg Digg
Tags - Make this thread easier to find by adding keywords to it!
77mm, dpreview posts hd, f1.8 limited sample, gallery, hd, hd 77mm, hd pentax 77mm, k-mount, pentax, pentax 77mm f1.8, pentax lens, posts hd pentax, sample, slr lens
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
HD Pentax 31mm F1.8, 43mm F1.9 and 77mm F1.8 Limited lenses dilemma............. i_trax Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 52 05-04-2022 09:13 PM
For Sale - Sold: Cokin Pure Harmonie 77mm CPL, Hoya 77mm HMC UV filter, ProOptic 72-77mm stepup ring mconwxdr Sold Items 3 05-14-2021 05:33 AM
K-1 sample gallery up at DPreview Roadrunnerdeluxe Pentax K-1 & K-1 II 1 07-01-2016 01:53 PM
DPReview posts image gallery of x-g1 D1N0 Pentax News and Rumors 4 01-03-2016 08:01 AM
DA Limited, varying build quality from sample to sample. the swede Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 20 04-10-2011 01:52 PM



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:23 PM. | See also: NikonForums.com, CanonForums.com part of our network of photo forums!
  • Red (Default)
  • Green
  • Gray
  • Dark
  • Dark Yellow
  • Dark Blue
  • Old Red
  • Old Green
  • Old Gray
  • Dial-Up Style
Hello! It's great to see you back on the forum! Have you considered joining the community?
register
Creating a FREE ACCOUNT takes under a minute, removes ads, and lets you post! [Dismiss]
Top