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12-06-2008, 12:38 AM   #1
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What does LBA mean? Lens buying help needed.

I have come across LBA and CBA on many a photo forum. Being pretty new to this game, I can only take a wild guess at what LBA might be - Lens buying 'something'? Is it "addiction"?

Talking about addiction, I started with a K200D with kit lens + 50-200 + FA 50/1.4 + Sigma 18-50/2.8 and a FGZ 360 flash.

In the past few weeks I've -
  • Sold the K200D with the kit lens (K20D price drop + co-worker eyeing my K200D)
  • Bought a K20D Body (on it's way)
  • Sold (almost gone, it's on ebay) the Sigma. Prefer the Pentax colours.
  • Head over heels in love with the FA 50/1.4

I'm looking to buy the 16-45/4 and keep the 50-200

or

Get the 18-250 and sell the 50-200

I need to make this decision pretty quickly before tomorrow, if I have to get the new lens on time for my vacation.
Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,
Keith

12-06-2008, 02:00 AM   #2
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You are correct about the A standing for addiction. The C in CBA applies to cameras, it goes hand in hand with LBA because many of the older lenses come with an SLR attached.
Not wishing to confuse you even further (I know you want to go with Pentax) but the Sigma 24-60 is a great lens for a couple of hundred bucks, it's not as wide as the 16-45 but it's faster.
If you're sticking to your guns, go for the 18-250, that way you have a greater range for your vacation with just one lens. You have the FA 50 for when you need a bigger aperture.

Good luck and enjoy your trip.
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Woohoo! Lucky guess. I think I've got a mild case of LBA right now.

Gary - I'm having second thoughts after reading (somewhere here on this forum) someone suggesting a P&S instead of a 18-250. Is it that pedestrian? All reviews I've read suggest it's a decent piece of glass. How does it stand up compared to the 16-45?

PS: DA*'s are beyond my budget, and I'm not interested in playing a lottery right now

Cheers,
Keith
12-06-2008, 03:40 AM   #4
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Addictions

Keith,

Some addictions are mighty strong. I certainly have it in a big way.
At least you are able to sell off items you don't use.
Have not been able to do that. I have four complete Pentax SLR systems
dating back to my 1st one, a Spotmatic in 1973.
I've taken photos of them with the intent to place on E-bay but can never
get myself to the point of parting with the old friends.

I have the 18-250 lens with my K100d. It is a great walk around lens for
traveling. Also have 28-80 and 70-300 Sigmas from my ZX7 system as well as the 18-55 kit lens. I'll put the 70-300 on for a little extra telephoto or macro.
Other than that the 18-250 stays on.

I recently bought a P&S Canon 590 thinking it would be handy for portability.
It's a nice camera but the shutter lag on P&S cameras is not acceptable to
me if you are trying to catch a shot where someone may be moving.
Example: Attempting to take photos of my grandson usually results in a disappointment.
I now remember why a gave my previous P&S away. It was OK but I was never
addicted to it.

So for me the K100 with 18-250 is my primary pick for vacations and general use.
I'll still have the Canon along for times when I don't want to expose my SLR to the elements such as the beach when it is windy.

Good luck and have great travels

Larry

12-06-2008, 03:42 AM   #5
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QuoteOriginally posted by keith.s Quote
Woohoo! Lucky guess. I think I've got a mild case of LBA right now.

Gary - I'm having second thoughts after reading (somewhere here on this forum) someone suggesting a P&S instead of a 18-250. Is it that pedestrian? All reviews I've read suggest it's a decent piece of glass. How does it stand up compared to the 16-45?

PS: DA*'s are beyond my budget, and I'm not interested in playing a lottery right now

Cheers,
Keith
A P&S is great for a vacation, fits in your pocket etc. but it can be limiting depending on what kind of shots you want to take.
Read the reviews and see what you think of the 18-250, people seem happy with it Pentax Lens Review Database - 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 ED AL [IF].
I don't have either lens but zooms tend to be weakest at their extremities, you are basically choosing convenience over quality.
The 18-250 is a little faster at the wide end than the 16-45 and of course you also have that convenience of range in the 18-250.
I have the Tamron 28-300 which isn't supposed to be that good but I've taken some decent shots with it and it serves it's purpose. I would think that the Pentax 18-250 should be better than my Tamron which is about $150 cheaper.
A lot depends on how happy you are with your 50-200, if it's ok and you haven't wished for a longer focal length then go with the 16-45. With the money you save you could always buy a teleconverter to increase the length of your 50-200 just remember you'll lose a stop or two.
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LBA stands for less brain activity. At least that is what it means for me
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It isn't always convienent to bring an SLR and point and shoots are handy for those occasions. On vacations I always bring all my stuff and use what I think I will need on a particular day. I am thinking about the 18-250 also as I am now carrying 2 lenses around. I don't think any point and shoot would be a real replacement.
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LBA stands for less brain activity. At least that is what it means for me
My brains on hyper drive right now, thanks to LBA. Can't seem to make up my mind. Maybe, I'll just postpone my decision and stick with the 50/1.4 for some time.

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Keith,

Yep - sounds like you have LBA. I hate to inform you there is no known cure.

Cheers,

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Ok, I think I've made up my mind. It's going to be the 16-45 / 4 for me. Why? I'm yet to read a negative review on this lens. Only praises, except the shadow problem from on-camera flash. This is a non-issue as I use the 360FGZ either on the hot shoe or in wireless mode.

On the other hand the 18-250 is supposed to be average to good below 100 and not so good above 100. I didn't go the DSLR way for 'average', I have a P&S for that.

Also, I rarely use the 50-200 range. This is the only time I took it out of the bag -
SE WTA Championship Doha 2008 - a set on Flickr
(Pretty decent pics under low light, more than what I expected out of this el cheapo lens).

Now, I'll just wait for my Sigma 18-50 / 2.8 sale to be complete on eBay before I buy the new lens.

Time for that 1/2 bottle of chardonnay and nice warm dinner followed by bed. It's cold and wet outside, something that you don't experience often in this part of the world. Fingers crossed the LBA nightmares won't haunt me tonight.

Cheers,
Keith
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Why not just get the best? Tamron 17-50 f2.8 and the Pentax DA* 50-135. And then wait for the Sigma 150-500 to come out in Pentax Mount.
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Keith,

Yep - sounds like you have LBA. I hate to inform you there is no known cure.

Cheers,

Tom G
There may not be a cure, but the symptoms are treatable. The most affective treatment is to get out and take some pictures.

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Both LBA and CBA mean an expensive habit.
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Good choice on the 16-45. I think you'll be quite happy with it once you get it. I know I like mine a lot. It, the 50-200, and the 50/1.4 will make a nice little kit that won't be too heavy to carry around while on vacation.

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If had it to do over I'd have bought the Tamron 18-200 with my K100D instead of my two kit lenses. Sure there is compromise with 11:1 zoom but not having to carry a second lens, not having to swap before a shot, and not getting as many dust spots would be worth it.

I sometimes take my Fuji S-5200 crossover on trips because it is one sealed piece. I sometimes regret it because the three piece Pentax takes far better photos. If the economy wasn't so bad I'd just buy a used Tamron 18-200 for about $200. The price went down when the 18-250 came out.
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