[2351HD]

The Lee 150 kit will work for everything. Specifically, it also mounts natively on the Ø82 DA*11-18 and DFA24-70.

I am aware, yes. I have a significantly superior filter set to the Lee system and anyway, a new system would cost more than the new DFA 21mm lens.

It seems clear that it’s an unpopular opinion to suggest what I have, so I’ll evaluate it for myself and make the right choice.

[Sandy Hancock]

Not every lens is for everyone.
Do what you do, and be happy.

[biz-engineer]

So we are meant to keep two lenses and two filter sets, yeah that sounds like a great idea.

You are supposed to use the D-FA 21 ltd without filters.Ricoh could release another lens later , e.g 20mm f1.8 for astro, one that takes filters. You'd buy 3 lenses (15-30, 21 ltd and 20 1.8).

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The Lee 150 kit will work for everything. Specifically, it also mounts natively on the Ø82 DA*11-18 and DFA24-70.

Yes, with an 82mm adapter ring, I can also mount my 150mm filter kit on those lenses. But the 150mm kit with holder is quite large, I carry it in a separate bag just for the rings, the frame holder and filters. My big tripod has 40mm diameter legs, no need to say , it's no for walking around.

[2351HD]

You are supposed to use the D-FA 21 ltd without filters.

Says who? If that’s the case it shouldn’t have a filter thread.

What it is, is Pentax tugging the heart strings of die-hard Pentaxians by creating another Limited lens that those will surely buy without question, but forgetting about what a real useful field lens must have.

Different lenses for different folks I know, as Sandy suggested. But if you’re going to do one, at least do the other as well.

[biz-engineer]

Not every lens is for everyone.Do what you do, and be happy.

I guess you meant not every lens is for every shooting situation.

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What it is, is Pentax tugging the heart strings of die-hard Pentaxians by creating another Limited lens that those will surely buy without question, but forgetting about what a real useful field lens must have.

A lot of lenses are "LBA" lenses. You can shoot pretty much everything with two lenses: 24-105 / 24-120 and 100-400/100-500. Camera manufacturers often skew lenses so that customers buy more, same for cameras.

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Different lenses for different folks I know, as Sandy suggested. But if you’re going to do one, at least do the other as well.

If you make a lens that fit practically all use cases, you sell only one lens, it generate less revenue than selling two or three lenses instead.

[Digitalis]

.Ricoh could release another lens later , e.g 20mm f1.8 for astro, one that takes filters

There is a proposed DFA* lens on the roadmap with a wide aperture that has yet to be announced.

[2351HD]

There is a proposed DFA* lens on the roadmap with a wide aperture that has yet to be announced.

I can see that being a 28-35mm lens, not 24 or 21.

[Digitalis]

I say a D-FA*28mm f/1.4 35~40mm area is a little overcrowded for a 35mm and that puts pentax in the perfect spot to produce an even wider 16~18mm D-FA lens.

[Sandy Hancock]

I can see that being a 28-35mm lens, not 24 or 21.

I hope a 24/1.4 isn't out of the question, but I wouldn't be surprised if you're right.

When all is said and done, if Pentax doesn't have what you want, and you can't wait, look elsewhere. Life is too short.

[Joetitch]

A possible solution might be to get the black version find a step up ring with the internal diameter of the smaller hole to fit the external diameter of the lense. Preferably an interference fit which would allow it to be self-securing. Then if you need to sell later it could be removed, paint touched up and as good as new.👍

[stevebrot]

It seems clear that it’s an unpopular opinion to suggest what I have, so I’ll evaluate it for myself and make the right choice.

I'd go with the Leica...

Seriously, though...What strengths does this lens bring to the table that are unique to it over other options such that physical modification is worth sacrificing resale value along with voiding the warranty?


Steve

[acoufap]

I am aware, yes. I have a significantly superior filter set to the Lee system and anyway, a new system would cost more than the new DFA 21mm lens.

It seems clear that it’s an unpopular opinion to suggest what I have, so I’ll evaluate it for myself and make the right choice.

I use my DA*11-18 with the K-1 in FF mode with the Haida M10 Filterholder (100mm filter system). It works fine at 18mm and without vignetting problems. So that‘s another option.

[Paul the Sunman]

The FA 20mm has a removable hood and 67 mm filter size. It also has a user rating of 9.2 on PF. There are a couple currently available on eBay and I suspect more will become available as people buy the new DFA 21 Limited.

[biz-engineer]

Samyang 20 1.8
- cheaper
- faster aperture
- 77mm filter thread (most common diameter for landscape type lenses)
- removable hood

Cons:
- manual focus, but at 20mm the hyperfocal distance is rather short
- quality level based of lucky copy (according to user reviews)

[house]

IMHO the problem is the lack of choice in the lens lineup not the decision to use a fixed hood for a limited lens.

It would be a non issue if other glass for different use cases was available. I've said it before but I really think the ltds are a mixed blessing for Pentax. I'm sure they make a lot of money on them but they also eat resources and time slots preventing a more reasonable lens lineup. They need three lenses for each prime lens focal length, because ltds dont solve budget nor max performance, but they don't have the capacity for even one.

Personally I *really* like the fixed/collapsible limited hoods. They make so much sense when frequently changing lenses.

Oh and the leica 1.4/21 hood is supposedly quite fiddly and can end up with slightly wrong rotation. Their solution is flawed as well.