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12-10-2008, 03:24 PM   #1
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New K200D owner, wide angle advice...

Hello folks!

I am a two day owner of a new K200D. Boy, am I enamored with it.

I am accustomed to shooting with a Kodak P880 Bridge camera. I love shooting at wide angles, an in specific somewhere between 18-24mm (old 35 mm spec). Of course, I got the kit lens and I am having some withdrawl pains from the lack of wide angle action.

So, what I am looking for is a suggestion or two from those out there who like to shoot wide angle. I am talking about something in the old 16mm-28mm 35 SLR spec. I would want something with a field of view of at least 70-72 degrees at the widest end.

Should I stick with the Pentax brand? I shoot fine art photos (http://www.siskiyoustudios.com) and am hoping for something at least of a passable glass grade but the least expensive the better. If I can get something decent for around $300 (with the understanding that eventually I will have to get something else), that would be ideal. But, if I am told that waiting a month or two for a $600-$1,000 lens would be preferable then I will likely do that. I am not afraid of using an older lens. HOWEVER, I am afraid of too much barrel distortion. I would prefer as close to zero as I can get, fisheye is out for me.

Thanks for the advice folks, I am glad to be a new member and look forward to plenty of great advice and interaction.

Jason


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G'day Jason,
Suggest you hang around the lens forum a bit and do some searches for the following lenses there:
Sigma 10-20 ....quite a few forum members have it & love it, but some refer to distortion.
Pentax 12-24 f4.... very popular
Pentax DA 14 f2.8.. I have this lens and it is very good.
Pentax DA* 16-50.....those with a "good" copy love it and swear by it BUT some have also received less than stellar copies and have returned it ...read the posts carefully.

Hope that helps you.
Cheers.
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Hello! Thanks for the input!

I found a DA 16-45mm Pentax lens. What about that unit?

Thanks again for your input...

Jason
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Wide angle is a bit of a pain with the current crop of Pentax dSLRs. Most of the options have significant distortion even when the FOV is more along the lines of a 24mm or 28mm on 35mm film.

The suggestions given by Mallee Boy are good ones.

There are a few others in addition to those from Mallee Boy:
  • Tamron 17-50/2.8
  • Sigma 15/2.8 (fisheye)
  • Zenitar 16.2.8 (fisheye)
  • Pentax DA 10-17 (fisheye)
  • Pentax DA 16-45/4

Assuming you bought your K200D with the Pentax 18-55 kit lens, I think that you may find that it is a very capable performer at the wide end and adequate for most things until you save up for something more expensive.

Regarding fisheyes...The diagonal fisheye lenses above produce significant, but very manageable, distortion at 15-17mm when used with the K200D. The picture below was taken with my Zenitar 16/2.8 FE and doesn't look too fishy to me.



No distortion correction in PP.

Steve


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QuoteOriginally posted by alderfall Quote
Hello! Thanks for the input!

I found a DA 16-45mm Pentax lens. What about that unit?

Thanks again for your input...

Jason
https://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/showproduct.php?product=149&cat=43

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QuoteOriginally posted by alderfall Quote
Hello! Thanks for the input!

I found a DA 16-45mm Pentax lens. What about that unit?

Thanks again for your input...

Jason
Hi Jason, welcome to the forum.

I have the Pentax 16-45 lens and use it more than all my others combined. Love it. Great for walking around. Does decent close-ups. And, for me, the 16mm end is wide enough. Also, the price is reasonable.
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Thank you for the help stevebrot... I read that review and the lens sounds great. I was also then able to check out other reviews and found this:

Pentax Lens Review Database - 16-45mm F4

Anyhow, it is on sale at Amazon for under $280 and I have a few more days on my Amazon Prime upgrade, so I may try to get that.

Please speak now or forever hold your peace...

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Jason,
For $280 you won't be disappointed. That is good price for that lens. I will agree with Chip B, as it is a great value and very versatile in most situations. I kept it on my camera almost exclusively until I purchased my 43mm limited.
Just a suggestion, if you have a pentax store close, go in and shoot a few test shots, to see if it meets your needs. As also mentioned read thru the forum and get other opinions.
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Excellent advice... I wish I had one close. I don't know of a photo store anywhere near that carries Pentax. Our closest city with significant shopping is Eugene, Oregon and I found nothing but small shops dedicated to Canon and Nikon. If there is a way to check, I awould appreciate the guidance.

Thanks again for the input everyone. Excellent advice and you all made me feel very welcome.

Jason
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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
Wide angle is a bit of a pain with the current crop of Pentax dSLRs. Most of the options have significant distortion even when the FOV is more along the lines of a 24mm or 28mm on 35mm film.

The suggestions given by Mallee Boy are good ones.

There are a few others in addition to those from Mallee Boy:
  • Tamron 17-50/2.8
  • Sigma 15/2.8 (fisheye)
  • Zenitar 16.2.8 (fisheye)
  • Pentax DA 10-17 (fisheye)
  • Pentax DA 16-45/4

Assuming you bought your K200D with the Pentax 18-55 kit lens, I think that you may find that it is a very capable performer at the wide end and adequate for most things until you save up for something more expensive.

Regarding fisheyes...The diagonal fisheye lenses above produce significant, but very manageable, distortion at 15-17mm when used with the K200D. The picture below was taken with my Zenitar 16/2.8 FE and doesn't look too fishy to me.



No distortion correction in PP.

Steve
Thanks! Boy, I see no distortion that I would need to worry about. I used a Pentax with a fisheye while I was a teen back in 4-H photography. I don't remember specifics but the distortion was really pronounced and it was supposedly a 16mm model. Anyhow, nice photo. Thanks again for all the input!

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QuoteOriginally posted by alderfall Quote
I got the kit lens and I am having some withdrawl pains from the lack of wide angle action.
In this context the 16-45 won't be much wider than the kit lens for you. I think you need to go for a Sigma 10-20 or the more expensive Pentax 12-24.

Also beware the Zenitar 16/2.8 is a manual lens, without "A" on the aperture ring. I have not bought one just for this reason.
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Boy, I see no distortion that I would need to worry about.
The subject in that type of landscape is not going to show distortion because it is all irregular. You must look at things with straight lines...

This is the 12-24 at 12mm. You will get the slant with any wide angle when not parallel to the subject.

Attachment 23711

This is the 10-17 at 17mm. Not too much curvature.
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For the money, the 16-45 is a great wideish angle lens. If you're OK with picking up a gently used one, it's not hard to find them for less than $250. Later on, if you decide that you'd like a bit wider, then you can pick up something like a DA12-24, Sigma 10-20, or Tamron 10-24 (to be released. Even if you do that, the 16-45 would still be worth keeping around as an inexpensive everyday lens.

HTH,
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using K200D and Sigma 10-20mm here perfect for wide angle!



here's so you can get some perspective on focal lengths etc

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using K200D and Sigma 10-20mm here perfect for wide angle!



here's so you can get some perspective on focal lengths etc

Excellent, excellent presentation! Thanks for this excellent depiction. It will be saved for future use, that's for sure.

Thanks again every body, I have learned and that is the most important point. You are all really excellent thus far. I hope to be chiming in with my advice as I grow into the 200D.

Jason
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