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Feanor · 12-11-2008, 07:39 AM

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Hi guys,

I have the opportunity to buy a Pentax A 16mm f/2.8 fisheye but I'm unsure how much I should pay for this lens. Has anyone experience with this lens?

I just bought a A 50 f/1.4 with a BW +4 close up/magnifying filter for $100. This seems like a good deal or?
Would the A 16mm be in the same price range do you think?

Regards

Feanor

**Eaglerapids** · 12-11-2008, 07:45 AM

Pentax Lens Review Database - 16mm F2.8 Fish-Eye

If I had a chance to get the fisheye for $100 I'd jump on it. Sounds like you got a decent deal on the A 50/1.4.

vanchaz2002 · 12-11-2008, 07:45 AM

I pay you $150 for it..

Just kidding. I will pay $350-400 depends on the condition. FFordes used to have one for sell around 199 pound.

**Douglas_of_Sweden** · 12-11-2008, 07:50 AM

Originally posted by Feanor

Hi guys,

I have the opportunity to buy a Pentax A 16mm f/2.8 fisheye but I'm unsure how much I should pay for this lens. Has anyone experience with this lens?

I just bought a A 50 f/1.4 with a BW +4 close up/magnifying filter for $100. This seems like a good deal or?
Would the A 16mm be in the same price range do you think?

Regards

Feanor

You don't see them very often, I've only held one once and not on my camera, so I have no images to show. Are you going to use it on a SLR or a DSLR?
My guess would be a price 5-10 times higher than what you payed for the 50mm. But you don't need to tell that to the seller.

Feanor · 12-11-2008, 07:55 AM

Ok. That much huh....
I'll be using it on my K20D, and my father has an old ME I'm planning to start using (I know there won't be any Av but..).

Looks like I'll have to jump the gun and buy this lens then.

**Douglas_of_Sweden** · 12-11-2008, 07:58 AM

Took a quick look: there is one on e-bay right now in Germany with a buy it now on 853 US$. Now that don't mean they will get that price, but at least before the economical troubles, prices were getting mad on the rare A lenses.

**Kerrowdown** · 12-11-2008, 08:29 AM

They ain't cheap these days, but then fine glass has always been expensive.

I think really it depends on what your prepared to pay, remember they are a lens, that you use only occasionally rather than everyday.

That is once the novelty has worn off.

Gooshin · 12-11-2008, 08:34 AM

having used the russian Zenitar 16mm F2.8 for over a year now, i honestly cant imagine how much better the pentax A would have to be to justify its price.

beaumont · 12-11-2008, 09:13 AM

I have the 10-17 DA fisheye and it is a blast to use. However, I am often wishing it was faster, such as 2.8. Seems to me like a no-brainer to buy this lens. If you tire of it, you will certainly get your money back by reselling it.
Post pictures of the results!!!

Feanor · 12-15-2008, 01:29 PM

dissapointed.....
Got to see some pictures today and it's a Sigma.... The guy never really said Pentax 16mm 2.8 fisheye. I just assumed since it had filters and stuff...
SO is this lens worth the bother?
The deal is that I get a P50 body,
a Pentax-A 50mm 1.7,
a A-19mm f 3.8 not sure about the brand but I suspect a Vivatar with a 62mm circular PL Hakuba(Has a more modern looking focus ring than on the pictures I've found of it).
A Sigma 16mm 2.8 fisheye,
a Tokina doubler,
a Sigma 35-200mm 4-5.6 zoom (with a non-locking aperture ring),
Some filters and the wired shutter thingy (don't remember the english word

)

All of this for $170 incl freight.

So what do you think? HAs the deal lost all it's appeal without the pentax lens?

stevebrot · 12-15-2008, 02:22 PM

See this thread. I think this may be the same lens:

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/16103-sigma-16...atic-lens.html

Feanor · 12-16-2008, 04:29 AM

yes it looks like it's the same lens. what about the vivitar 19 mm 3.8 and the a-50 1.7? is the package worth 170 bucks? i got very unsure when i realized it wasn't a pentax a 16mm i was buying...

would you buy it?

stevebrot · 12-16-2008, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by Feanor

yes it looks like it's the same lens. what about the vivitar 19 mm 3.8 and the a-50 1.7? is the package worth 170 bucks? i got very unsure when i realized it wasn't a pentax a 16mm i was buying...

would you buy it?

It is hard to say. The package may be worth that much if everything is in good condition. What I tend to do is to figure average value for the items I want and minimum value for the things I don't want. Applying that rule I would value the items except for the 16mm at about $85 USD on the US market. Is the 16mm worth the additional $85? Here is an eBay auction on a similar item:

Sigma 16mm Fish eye lens f2.8 - eBay (item 170286954877 end time Dec-17-08 18:00:00 PST)

Steve

Myoptimism · 12-16-2008, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by Feanor

yes it looks like it's the same lens. what about the vivitar 19 mm 3.8 and the a-50 1.7? is the package worth 170 bucks? i got very unsure when i realized it wasn't a pentax a 16mm i was buying...

would you buy it?

170 USD? Yes, in a heartbeat.
The fisheye lens is probably worth more than that by itself, that seems to be about the price the Zenitars are going for. If it has the "A" setting, even better.
The 50/1.7 A is a nice lens, probable value 70-100$ in nice condition.
The 19mm vivitar is also a decent lens, and is helped out by the fact it is a wide angle and a full frame lens. Probable value 80-120$ in nice condition.
The zoom, the doubler, the body, et cetera probably don't have much resale value, but it doesn't mean they are worthless either.
This is assuming nice cosmetic condition and no flaws in the glass.

stevebrot · 12-16-2008, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by Myoptimism

170 USD? Yes, in a heartbeat.
The fisheye lens is probably worth more than that by itself, that seems to be about the price the Zenitars are going for. If it has the "A" setting, even better.
The 50/1.7 A is a nice lens, probable value 70-100$ in nice condition.
The 19mm vivitar is also a decent lens, and is helped out by the fact it is a wide angle and a full frame lens. Probable value 80-120$ in nice condition.
The zoom, the doubler, the body, et cetera probably don't have much resale value, but it doesn't mean they are worthless either.
This is assuming nice cosmetic condition and no flaws in the glass.

You are the kind of guy I like bidding when I do a listing!

I won't dispute your valuations. My earlier message was from a conservative stance based on low values for the 50mm and the 19mm. I suspect that the package is probably worth the $170 if both the 16mm and the 19mm are in decent shape, at least one is an "A" lens, and the 16mm has the full set of four filters.

Steve

OTOH...Check this out...http://cgi.ebay.com/SIGMA-16mm-1-2-8-FISHEYE-PENTAX-K-A-MOUNT-K10D-K20D_W0QQ...QQcmdZViewItem

12-11-2008, 07:39 AM	#1
Feanor New Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Norway Posts: 5	Pentax A 16mm F/2.8 fisheye Staff note: This post may contain affiliate links, which means Pentax Forums may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. If you would like to support the forum directly, you may also make a donation here. Hi guys, I have the opportunity to buy a Pentax A 16mm f/2.8 fisheye but I'm unsure how much I should pay for this lens. Has anyone experience with this lens? I just bought a A 50 f/1.4 with a BW +4 close up/magnifying filter for $100. This seems like a good deal or? Would the A 16mm be in the same price range do you think? Regards Feanor

12-15-2008, 02:22 PM	#11
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	See this thread. I think this may be the same lens: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/16103-sigma-16...atic-lens.html

12-16-2008, 10:23 AM	#13
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Feanor yes it looks like it's the same lens. what about the vivitar 19 mm 3.8 and the a-50 1.7? is the package worth 170 bucks? i got very unsure when i realized it wasn't a pentax a 16mm i was buying... would you buy it? It is hard to say. The package may be worth that much if everything is in good condition. What I tend to do is to figure average value for the items I want and minimum value for the things I don't want. Applying that rule I would value the items except for the 16mm at about $85 USD on the US market. Is the 16mm worth the additional $85? Here is an eBay auction on a similar item: Sigma 16mm Fish eye lens f2.8 - eBay (item 170286954877 end time Dec-17-08 18:00:00 PST) Steve

12-16-2008, 10:00 PM	#15
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Myoptimism 170 USD? Yes, in a heartbeat. The fisheye lens is probably worth more than that by itself, that seems to be about the price the Zenitars are going for. If it has the "A" setting, even better. The 50/1.7 A is a nice lens, probable value 70-100$ in nice condition. The 19mm vivitar is also a decent lens, and is helped out by the fact it is a wide angle and a full frame lens. Probable value 80-120$ in nice condition. The zoom, the doubler, the body, et cetera probably don't have much resale value, but it doesn't mean they are worthless either. This is assuming nice cosmetic condition and no flaws in the glass. You are the kind of guy I like bidding when I do a listing! I won't dispute your valuations. My earlier message was from a conservative stance based on low values for the 50mm and the 19mm. I suspect that the package is probably worth the $170 if both the 16mm and the 19mm are in decent shape, at least one is an "A" lens, and the 16mm has the full set of four filters. Steve OTOH...Check this out...http://cgi.ebay.com/SIGMA-16mm-1-2-8-FISHEYE-PENTAX-K-A-MOUNT-K10D-K20D_W0QQ...QQcmdZViewItem Last edited by stevebrot; 12-16-2008 at 10:09 PM.

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12-11-2008, 07:45 AM	#2
Eaglerapids Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Idaho,USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,619	Pentax Lens Review Database - 16mm F2.8 Fish-Eye If I had a chance to get the fisheye for $100 I'd jump on it. Sounds like you got a decent deal on the A 50/1.4.

12-11-2008, 07:45 AM	#3
vanchaz2002 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 215	I pay you $150 for it.. Just kidding. I will pay $350-400 depends on the condition. FFordes used to have one for sell around 199 pound.

12-11-2008, 07:50 AM	#4
Douglas_of_Sweden Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Stockholm Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,374	Originally posted by Feanor Hi guys, I have the opportunity to buy a Pentax A 16mm f/2.8 fisheye but I'm unsure how much I should pay for this lens. Has anyone experience with this lens? I just bought a A 50 f/1.4 with a BW +4 close up/magnifying filter for $100. This seems like a good deal or? Would the A 16mm be in the same price range do you think? Regards Feanor You don't see them very often, I've only held one once and not on my camera, so I have no images to show. Are you going to use it on a SLR or a DSLR? My guess would be a price 5-10 times higher than what you payed for the 50mm. But you don't need to tell that to the seller.

12-11-2008, 07:55 AM	#5
Feanor New Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Norway Posts: 5 Original Poster	Ok. That much huh.... I'll be using it on my K20D, and my father has an old ME I'm planning to start using (I know there won't be any Av but..). Looks like I'll have to jump the gun and buy this lens then.

12-11-2008, 07:58 AM	#6
Douglas_of_Sweden Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Stockholm Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,374	Took a quick look: there is one on e-bay right now in Germany with a buy it now on 853 US$. Now that don't mean they will get that price, but at least before the economical troubles, prices were getting mad on the rare A lenses.

12-11-2008, 08:29 AM	#7
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,867	They ain't cheap these days, but then fine glass has always been expensive. I think really it depends on what your prepared to pay, remember they are a lens, that you use only occasionally rather than everyday. That is once the novelty has worn off.

12-11-2008, 08:34 AM	#8
Gooshin Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, the one in Canada. Posts: 5,610	having used the russian Zenitar 16mm F2.8 for over a year now, i honestly cant imagine how much better the pentax A would have to be to justify its price.

12-11-2008, 09:13 AM	#9
beaumont Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 505	I have the 10-17 DA fisheye and it is a blast to use. However, I am often wishing it was faster, such as 2.8. Seems to me like a no-brainer to buy this lens. If you tire of it, you will certainly get your money back by reselling it. Post pictures of the results!!!

12-15-2008, 01:29 PM	#10
Feanor New Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Norway Posts: 5 Original Poster	dissapointed..... Got to see some pictures today and it's a Sigma.... The guy never really said Pentax 16mm 2.8 fisheye. I just assumed since it had filters and stuff... SO is this lens worth the bother? The deal is that I get a P50 body, a Pentax-A 50mm 1.7, a A-19mm f 3.8 not sure about the brand but I suspect a Vivatar with a 62mm circular PL Hakuba(Has a more modern looking focus ring than on the pictures I've found of it). A Sigma 16mm 2.8 fisheye, a Tokina doubler, a Sigma 35-200mm 4-5.6 zoom (with a non-locking aperture ring), Some filters and the wired shutter thingy (don't remember the english word ) All of this for $170 incl freight. So what do you think? HAs the deal lost all it's appeal without the pentax lens?

12-16-2008, 04:29 AM	#12
Feanor New Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Norway Posts: 5 Original Poster	yes it looks like it's the same lens. what about the vivitar 19 mm 3.8 and the a-50 1.7? is the package worth 170 bucks? i got very unsure when i realized it wasn't a pentax a 16mm i was buying... would you buy it?

12-16-2008, 08:06 PM	#14
Myoptimism Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Utah Photos: Gallery Posts: 94	Originally posted by Feanor yes it looks like it's the same lens. what about the vivitar 19 mm 3.8 and the a-50 1.7? is the package worth 170 bucks? i got very unsure when i realized it wasn't a pentax a 16mm i was buying... would you buy it? 170 USD? Yes, in a heartbeat. The fisheye lens is probably worth more than that by itself, that seems to be about the price the Zenitars are going for. If it has the "A" setting, even better. The 50/1.7 A is a nice lens, probable value 70-100$ in nice condition. The 19mm vivitar is also a decent lens, and is helped out by the fact it is a wide angle and a full frame lens. Probable value 80-120$ in nice condition. The zoom, the doubler, the body, et cetera probably don't have much resale value, but it doesn't mean they are worthless either. This is assuming nice cosmetic condition and no flaws in the glass.

Pentax A 16mm F/2.8 fisheye

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