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12-11-2008, 02:45 PM   #1
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Sigma 24-70 HSM nutty pricing

I think Sigma is getting an ego issue...$900 street price and $1300 list price??? Are they nutzzzzzz? They could have at least brought the filter size to 77mm instead of the ridiculous 82mm that makes UV and CP filters $100-200....

Amazon.com: Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 IF EX DG HSM AF Standard Zoom Lens for Nikon Digital SLR Cameras: Camera & Photo

I might forgive them if this redesigned lens is as macro sharp as the Nikon 24-70, but even then, I'd have to think twice about going back to Tamron roulette w/ the 28-75 first...

12-11-2008, 03:23 PM   #2
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I recently sold my like-new copy of this lens for under half this asking price. I have to say though, they might have left the same filter size, but they've really shrunk this lens in length. It's tiny now!

Is it really HSM for Pentax? I also see that they've dropped the aperture ring.
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Yep, it's HSM for pentax and all other models.
It's shorter and fatter IIRC, compared to the old one.
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QuoteOriginally posted by kenyee Quote
Yep, it's HSM for pentax and all other models.
It's shorter and fatter IIRC, compared to the old one.
The old one was big, which is why I sold it and kept the Tamron instead. Now the new Sigma is out there may be people selling their older versions on eBay and you could pick one up. Or get a new one for around $400.

Or maybe you want to keep playing the Tamron lottery...

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Never thought about the Sigma 24-70 non-HSM because folks said the Tamron was considerably sharper. Even Sigma admits it was designed for landscapes and that's why it isn't as sharp.
Even buying a Sigma is a different lottery. I'm on my 3rd copy of the Sigma 17-70 and I think previous copies were sharper but I can't send it back and claim it's not sharp enough if it's not obviously fuzzy or really bad :-P
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By the way the new version of sigma 24-70 has no macro capability. Maybe price would drop a little bit but its still too much for sigma. Lets wait and see the test results.

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hi, i'm pretty new here. This lens would go great with my sigma 70-200mm HSM, but kinda expensive and I already have the sigma 24-60mm...maybe later...
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I'm trying to figure out what on earth could possibly make this lens worth $900. The only thing I could think of would be tighter QC than Sigma usually has.

Sigma and Tamron are both lotteries. So far, the Tamron lottery has paid off for me, and the one Sigma lens I have is OK, not super (it's Canon EOS mount, so I haven't used it much lately).

If the price on this dropped to around the $500 mark or less, then I might consider using it as a replacement for my Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8, if it was sharp enough. That's really still a little high for what I would usually give for this focal range, but the extra 4mm on the wide end and the HSM would be enough to make it a consideration. At this price, though, I just turn away thinking how well my Tamron works for its price.

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QuoteOriginally posted by kenyee Quote
Never thought about the Sigma 24-70 non-HSM because folks said the Tamron was considerably sharper. Even Sigma admits it was designed for landscapes and that's why it isn't as sharp.
Even buying a Sigma is a different lottery. I'm on my 3rd copy of the Sigma 17-70 and I think previous copies were sharper but I can't send it back and claim it's not sharp enough if it's not obviously fuzzy or really bad :-P
I tested mine out against the Tammy (informally), and I would even venture that the Sigma was a little bit sharper; it was certainly no worse than the Tammy.
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If I am reading the above correctly, am I correct to assume that:

1) A DA200/2.8 lens on a APS-C camera would give the same FOV as a FA300/2.8 on a FF?
2) A DA200/2.8 lens on a APS-C camera would give more DOF than a FA300/2.8 on a FF?
3) A DA200/2.8 lens on a APS-C camera would give the same FOV and DOF than a FA300/2.8 shooting at F4 on a FF?
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LOL. I think leeak is in the wrong thread ;-)

I'd definitely find the 24 end more useful than Tamron's 28. Nikon/Canon also seem to have pushed this type of lens into the 24-70 range, though it's admittedly more useful on FF cameras than APS-C. The 24=36mm effective would be like my F30 P&S's wide end which isn't always wide enough...

We'll have to see how sharp this Sigma is. If it's almost as sharp as the Nikon 24-70, I'd pay up to $600 for it, but $900?? They're nutzzz :-)
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Yeah, I think Leeak got lost. Did you mean to post in this thread?

24 vs 28mm... I tried both...and there's very little difference, at least on APS-C. If you find 28mm isn't wide enough for the shot you're trying to take, chances are 24mm isn't going to be wide enough either. For my wide stuff I bought the little-known Tamron 17-35mm f/2.8-4. It's a great lens, about the same size as the 28-75mm f/2.8, really sharp wide open, and it's a full-frame lens, so I can use it with my film cameras too. It beats the kit lens any day, even wide open.

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<SMACK> WOW talk about OT. Gosh, I went off tangent didn't I? I just logged it and I was looking for my post in the other thread and I couldn't find it. And how did it end up here? I feel like the sad soul talking to himself in the dark corner of a crowded bar .... <sigh>
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FYI, Sigma has put up MTF charts for the HSM version:
Compact large aperture standard zoom lens equipped with HSM for the latest digital SLR cameras 24-70mm F2.8 IF EX DG HSM - SIGMA CORPORATION

From how I read this, my Sigma 17-70 has better MTF performance? :-p
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*creeeak* Used to be people would put the word 'macro' on anything that could focus within five feet, and we ignored it, unless it was actually a prime lens with a reasonably-flat field.

And we liked it.

It's true, though. I ended up getting a free kit lens with my K20, imagine my surprise when it actually focused on something a couple inches away. If it hadn't happened by accident, it never would have occured to me.
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