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12-14-2008, 07:37 AM   #1
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Give me Suggestions for new lens please

Howdy All,

Heres my setup and ideas im thinking about for new lense(s). Let me know what yall think might be good.

Pentax K200D
18-55mm Kit lense
Sigma 70-30mm
Battery Grip

I would really like to get a 18-200 or 18-250. Sigma 18-200 for around $300 and the Pentax 18-250 for $420 or so. Might be able to get both a little cheaper here in korea. If i get the sigma 18-200 then i could get a Sigma 2x converter to go with both lense and i think that would be a good investment??

Also im toying with the idea of a fisheye eye lense. either the 10-17mm or 17-28. A user has a 17-28 for sale.

i would say leaning more toward 18-200/250 that way i could possibly just sell or take out both other lenses from my bag and just carry one lense. or again get the 2x converter and keep both sigma lenses.

Also currently i have no external flash so maybe that is an option. As far as use of lense, i do alot of indoor/outdoor photography so an all around lense would be great. Money is somewhat not really a problem, because i can save to get a nice lense. Im single and dont have to worry bout the wife or girlfriend complaining. hahaha

let me know what yall think..

thanks

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12-14-2008, 08:13 AM   #2
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Tamron/Pentax 18-250 is better than the sigma 18-200. Having said that, I would not even use the 18-250 with a 1.4X TC. Rather than using the sigma 18-200 with a 2X TC, I would just use a Kodak disposable film camera. So, I don't think it is an option.

If you want wide angle for landscape, consider the Penatx 12-24 or Sigma 10-20.

If you want the long end, and can save some more, I would go with the sigma 100-300 F4 + sigma 1.4 TC.


Other than that, I may go with the 18-250 for good to moderate results and consolidate your two lenses with one and sell the two you have.


If you want top notch quality, I'll get the 43mm ltd. or the 50 1.4 (or the 77mm. or the 40mm, 70mm pancakes or even the 35mm macro ltd., and of course the 31mm). Unless you really need the wide end or the telephoto, my recommendation is to look for a qulaity prime lens in the focal length you like the most.

Good luck.

PLEASE DON'T CONSIDER THE SIGMA 18-200 WITH THE 2 X TC, PLEASE DON'T.
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I have the Pentax 18-250 and the Pentax 10-17.
The Pentax/Tamron 18-250 is better than the Sigma 18-200.

If you can get a good price for your 18-55 and 70-300 then you could replace these two with the 18-250, but I doubt that you will get that much money for those lenses.

Because you have the 18-300 range already covered, I would suggest buying a flash first and perhaps later a faster lens, something in the 35-80 range. The FA35/2 or FA50/1.4 are not too expensive. An alternative is a zoom lens like eg the Tamron 28-75/2.8 or a cheap manual focus lens.

The 10-17 is a very nice lens, but it is a bit of a specialty. It is better to first cover the basics: a flash and a fast normal lens.
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both great posts with alot of options thanks for the opinions

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Let me offer a different approach. You've got pretty good FL coverage with very decent zooms: now's the time for a quality prime. Take a look at what you've shot and think about where you gravitate in terms of FL: then treat yourself to a sharp, fast prime in that length.
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The advice I gave a friend that wanted a good intro level kit was the 18-250 for daytime and tripod shooting, and the FA35mm for a normal prime for low light handheld shooting. If you want a fisheye, get the da10-17 over the film version, much more fishy.
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The 10-17 is a very nice lens, but it is a bit of a specialty. It is better to first cover the basics: a flash and a fast normal lens.
I have the 540 flash I've used twice in 2 years, and have no interest in a 50. The 10-17 was my first lens (by 3 days) however.

To each his own :-)
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QuoteOriginally posted by 68wSteve Quote
18-55mm Kit lense
Sigma 70-30mm
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I would really like to get a 18-200 or 18-250.
Replacing the two lenses you have with one of these would allow to take the exact same pictures you are now, no better quality, and it will cost you money. Why not, as others have suggested, buy a lens that lets you do thing you *can't* do now, like take good pictures in low light, or very wide angle pictures, or real macro shots (not just 1:2 or whatever the Sigma does), or portraits where the subject is sharp but the background is nicely out of focus, or whatever else you wish you could do that you *can't* do now?

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A lot here depends on what images your're looking to capture, don't rush in, buy just one lens at time, use, learn enjoy that one before moving on.

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I agree both with Marc and Kerrowdown here.

Get a lens that is either faster or sharper or wider or longer, not just a replacement for what you already have, and take the time to learn how to use and enjoy the distinct possibilities with each lens you get before you go out and buy the next one.

A flash can be useful, but you may not use it that much, especially if you aren't really going to get into it. I find that sticking a flash on the top of the camera and shooting away in P-TTL mode yields very disappointing results. Flash photography is much more interesting if you find a way to get the flash off the camera, or you bounce it effectively off a ceiling or a wall (at the very least you have to diffuse it somewhat). In a pinch "deer in the headlights" shots are better than no shots, but anything else ranging from a more involved flash setup to a faster lens or a higher ISO setting is almost always preferable if possible. The one exception to this is fill flash for daylight shots. That is one good use for direct on camera flash if you plan on taking advantage of it. (Direct on camera flash can also work for photographing two dimensional subjects like drawings or paintings, but that is a specialized use, and even then glare can sometimes be a problem).
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