Wide angle wr lens with filter capabilities?

hadi · 04-11-2022, 10:29 AM

So, I'm heading to Iceland and Faroe islands soon.
I will be taking my k1
My favorite lens, the 200mm f2.8 will.bw coming with me.
So will the 100mm macro.

Both lenses are wr.

The other lens I'm planning on taking is the 31mm, which, obviously is not wr.

Yes, I know the 28-105 and the 24-70 exist as wr lenses. The 15-30 is a chonky one and adding Nd filters is a tall task I don't want to get into.

Is there anything wider than the 31mm and has wr? A prime, perhaps? I don't mind using the k1 in crop mode, so I could use those primes...but I'm not sure if there are any other possibilities.

I used to have the 24-70, which was decent, but not my cup of tea as it is a zoom.

Any inputs in this would be greatly appreciated

(Yes, I do take lots of panoramas, so that can be used with the 100mm. But for long exposure stuff, not sure if that is possible with making panoramas)

**ramseybuckeye** · 04-11-2022, 10:46 AM

There is the APS-C DA 20-40 which is WR and is exceptional. Not a prime, but it is a Limited.

jslifoaw · 04-11-2022, 10:55 AM - **1 Like**

The DFA21 Limited is WR.

wadge22 · 04-11-2022, 11:00 AM - **2 Likes**

Also keep in mind you can do composite frame averaging to get the effect of ND filters (without the need for one) in some situations. Such as shooting long exposures of waterfalls in bright sunlight, for instance.

**UncleVanya** · 04-11-2022, 11:37 AM

D FA 21 would be the first recommendation followed by the DA* 11-18 which will cover full frame at the long end.

**ToddK** · 04-11-2022, 11:45 AM - **2 Likes**

You might consider picking up an Irix 15mm Blackstone which is full frame, water resistant, and can take either screw-on front filters or gel ND filters at the rear.

hadi · 04-11-2022, 12:24 PM

All these are great recommendations, keep them coming!

Not that it's the state of the art, or superb lens, I could just get the 18-55 wr lens for when the 31mm isn't recommended for the weather.

As for composite framing, or interval shooting, that could work in some settings.

**UncleVanya** · 04-11-2022, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by ramseybuckeye

There is the APS-C DA 20-40 which is WR and is exceptional. Not a prime, but it is a Limited.

That lens does an ok job on ff for part of the range. It will be wider than 18mm apsc as it tends to be pretty much reasonably FF at about 24mm (18mm on apsc is more like 28mm FF)

---------- Post added 04-11-22 at 10:22 PM ----------

Originally posted by hadi

All these are great recommendations, keep them coming!

Not that it's the state of the art, or superb lens, I could just get the 18-55 wr lens for when the 31mm isn't recommended for the weather.

As for composite framing, or interval shooting, that could work in some settings.

18-55 on apsc isn’t any wider than the 28-105, which itself is only slightly wider than the 31. 31 is wide - not super wide but wide. Once upon a time 35 was “wide” 28 was wider, and 24 was ultra-wide. Today standards are different but the fa 31 may surprise you - albeit not weather resistant.

The D FA 21 and the Irix 15 are super wide indeed.

Why WR? Could you just get a lens coat and an umbrella? The FA J 18-35 is a fun inexpensive option that won’t compete with the D FA 21 but might work well if the 18-55 WR is on your radar.

pid · 04-11-2022, 11:46 PM

I would definitely take my DFA 21 with me. It renders colors so beautyful. If you dont have it buy it!

bikehead90 · 04-12-2022, 08:14 AM

My suggestion would be the FA 15-30 it may be a little cumbersome to get filters, but that lens is a WR workhorse. The only filters/holder you can use is the Haida one, but any 150mm filter will fit the holder.

hadi · 04-12-2022, 08:53 AM

Originally posted by UncleVanya

That lens does an ok job on ff for part of the range. It will be wider than 18mm apsc as it tends to be pretty much reasonably FF at about 24mm (18mm on apsc is more like 28mm FF)

---------- Post added 04-11-22 at 10:22 PM ----------

18-55 on apsc isn’t any wider than the 28-105, which itself is only slightly wider than the 31. 31 is wide - not super wide but wide. Once upon a time 35 was “wide” 28 was wider, and 24 was ultra-wide. Today standards are different but the fa 31 may surprise you - albeit not weather resistant.

The D FA 21 and the Irix 15 are super wide indeed.

Why WR? Could you just get a lens coat and an umbrella? The FA J 18-35 is a fun inexpensive option that won’t compete with the D FA 21 but might work well if the 18-55 WR is on your radar.

Reason for wr is I plan on doing lots of long exposure. The conditions of Faroe islands and Iceland, from what I've seen, and heard, is unrelentless. Random rain storms, and spray. It's hard to predict what the conditions are like.

**aslyfox** · 04-12-2022, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by hadi

Reason for wr is I plan on doing lots of long exposure. The conditions of Faroe islands and Iceland, from what I've seen, and heard, is unrelentless. Random rain storms, and spray. It's hard to predict what the conditions are like.

you could consider the old way of protecting the camera and lens

Camera Rain Cover - Bing images

**UncleVanya** · 04-12-2022, 08:57 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by aslyfox

you could consider the old way of protecting the camera and lens

Camera Rain Cover - Bing images

Given the fact that weather resistance isn’t covered by warranty… I’d probably do both.

redrockcoulee · 04-12-2022, 10:34 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by hadi

Reason for wr is I plan on doing lots of long exposure. The conditions of Faroe islands and Iceland, from what I've seen, and heard, is unrelentless. Random rain storms, and spray. It's hard to predict what the conditions are like.

Not heavy rain often more like every mists. I was in both last fall. In the Fareos you do need a wide angle lens much more than a long one.

77me · 04-12-2022, 04:42 PM

Not true. I use the WonderPana filter holder system https://fotodioxpro.com/collections/wonderpana/products/wonderpana-tm1530 and there is also Wine County Camera's 150mm filter system 150mm Master Filter and Holder Kit ? Wine Country Camera. I use their 100mm filter system on my normal sized lenses.

I like the WonderPana system on the 15-30 because I can attach the holder and use a clip-on lens cap that almost fits in to my pocket.

Originally posted by bikehead90

My suggestion would be the FA 15-30 it may be a little cumbersome to get filters, but that lens is a WR workhorse. The only filters/holder you can use is the Haida one, but any 150mm filter will fit the holder.

04-11-2022, 10:29 AM	#1
hadi Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Mississauga, Ontario Posts: 563	Wide angle wr lens with filter capabilities? So, I'm heading to Iceland and Faroe islands soon. I will be taking my k1 My favorite lens, the 200mm f2.8 will.bw coming with me. So will the 100mm macro. Both lenses are wr. The other lens I'm planning on taking is the 31mm, which, obviously is not wr. Yes, I know the 28-105 and the 24-70 exist as wr lenses. The 15-30 is a chonky one and adding Nd filters is a tall task I don't want to get into. Is there anything wider than the 31mm and has wr? A prime, perhaps? I don't mind using the k1 in crop mode, so I could use those primes...but I'm not sure if there are any other possibilities. I used to have the 24-70, which was decent, but not my cup of tea as it is a zoom. Any inputs in this would be greatly appreciated (Yes, I do take lots of panoramas, so that can be used with the 100mm. But for long exposure stuff, not sure if that is possible with making panoramas)

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04-11-2022, 10:46 AM	#2
ramseybuckeye Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Hampstead, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 17,291	There is the APS-C DA 20-40 which is WR and is exceptional. Not a prime, but it is a Limited.

04-11-2022, 10:55 AM - 1 Like	#3
jslifoaw Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Toronto/Victoria Posts: 460	The DFA21 Limited is WR.

04-11-2022, 11:00 AM - 2 Likes	#4
wadge22 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: NE Ohio Photos: Albums Posts: 897	Also keep in mind you can do composite frame averaging to get the effect of ND filters (without the need for one) in some situations. Such as shooting long exposures of waterfalls in bright sunlight, for instance.

04-11-2022, 11:37 AM	#5
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,401	D FA 21 would be the first recommendation followed by the DA* 11-18 which will cover full frame at the long end.

04-11-2022, 11:45 AM - 2 Likes	#6
ToddK Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Texas Hill Country Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,532	You might consider picking up an Irix 15mm Blackstone which is full frame, water resistant, and can take either screw-on front filters or gel ND filters at the rear.

04-11-2022, 12:24 PM	#7
hadi Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Mississauga, Ontario Posts: 563 Original Poster	All these are great recommendations, keep them coming! Not that it's the state of the art, or superb lens, I could just get the 18-55 wr lens for when the 31mm isn't recommended for the weather. As for composite framing, or interval shooting, that could work in some settings.

04-11-2022, 07:15 PM	#8
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,401	Originally posted by ramseybuckeye There is the APS-C DA 20-40 which is WR and is exceptional. Not a prime, but it is a Limited. That lens does an ok job on ff for part of the range. It will be wider than 18mm apsc as it tends to be pretty much reasonably FF at about 24mm (18mm on apsc is more like 28mm FF) ---------- Post added 04-11-22 at 10:22 PM ---------- Originally posted by hadi All these are great recommendations, keep them coming! Not that it's the state of the art, or superb lens, I could just get the 18-55 wr lens for when the 31mm isn't recommended for the weather. As for composite framing, or interval shooting, that could work in some settings. 18-55 on apsc isn’t any wider than the 28-105, which itself is only slightly wider than the 31. 31 is wide - not super wide but wide. Once upon a time 35 was “wide” 28 was wider, and 24 was ultra-wide. Today standards are different but the fa 31 may surprise you - albeit not weather resistant. The D FA 21 and the Irix 15 are super wide indeed. Why WR? Could you just get a lens coat and an umbrella? The FA J 18-35 is a fun inexpensive option that won’t compete with the D FA 21 but might work well if the 18-55 WR is on your radar.

04-11-2022, 11:46 PM	#9
pid Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 567	I would definitely take my DFA 21 with me. It renders colors so beautyful. If you dont have it buy it!

04-12-2022, 08:14 AM	#10
bikehead90 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Photos: Gallery Posts: 193	My suggestion would be the FA 15-30 it may be a little cumbersome to get filters, but that lens is a WR workhorse. The only filters/holder you can use is the Haida one, but any 150mm filter will fit the holder.

04-12-2022, 08:53 AM	#11
hadi Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Mississauga, Ontario Posts: 563 Original Poster	Originally posted by UncleVanya That lens does an ok job on ff for part of the range. It will be wider than 18mm apsc as it tends to be pretty much reasonably FF at about 24mm (18mm on apsc is more like 28mm FF) ---------- Post added 04-11-22 at 10:22 PM ---------- 18-55 on apsc isn’t any wider than the 28-105, which itself is only slightly wider than the 31. 31 is wide - not super wide but wide. Once upon a time 35 was “wide” 28 was wider, and 24 was ultra-wide. Today standards are different but the fa 31 may surprise you - albeit not weather resistant. The D FA 21 and the Irix 15 are super wide indeed. Why WR? Could you just get a lens coat and an umbrella? The FA J 18-35 is a fun inexpensive option that won’t compete with the D FA 21 but might work well if the 18-55 WR is on your radar. Reason for wr is I plan on doing lots of long exposure. The conditions of Faroe islands and Iceland, from what I've seen, and heard, is unrelentless. Random rain storms, and spray. It's hard to predict what the conditions are like.

04-12-2022, 08:56 AM	#12
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,581	Originally posted by hadi Reason for wr is I plan on doing lots of long exposure. The conditions of Faroe islands and Iceland, from what I've seen, and heard, is unrelentless. Random rain storms, and spray. It's hard to predict what the conditions are like. you could consider the old way of protecting the camera and lens Camera Rain Cover - Bing images

04-12-2022, 08:57 AM - 1 Like	#13
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,401	Originally posted by aslyfox you could consider the old way of protecting the camera and lens Camera Rain Cover - Bing images Given the fact that weather resistance isn’t covered by warranty… I’d probably do both.

04-12-2022, 10:34 AM - 1 Like	#14
redrockcoulee Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Medicine Hat Posts: 2,306	Originally posted by hadi Reason for wr is I plan on doing lots of long exposure. The conditions of Faroe islands and Iceland, from what I've seen, and heard, is unrelentless. Random rain storms, and spray. It's hard to predict what the conditions are like. Not heavy rain often more like every mists. I was in both last fall. In the Fareos you do need a wide angle lens much more than a long one.

04-12-2022, 04:42 PM	#15
77me Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 150	Not true. I use the WonderPana filter holder system https://fotodioxpro.com/collections/wonderpana/products/wonderpana-tm1530 and there is also Wine County Camera's 150mm filter system 150mm Master Filter and Holder Kit ? Wine Country Camera. I use their 100mm filter system on my normal sized lenses. I like the WonderPana system on the 15-30 because I can attach the holder and use a clip-on lens cap that almost fits in to my pocket. Originally posted by bikehead90 My suggestion would be the FA 15-30 it may be a little cumbersome to get filters, but that lens is a WR workhorse. The only filters/holder you can use is the Haida one, but any 150mm filter will fit the holder.