Samyang 85mm f1.4?

deejjjaaaa · 12-17-2008, 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by rparmar

If someone can get this lens for EURO 200, they should. I doubt it would be a bad purchase at that price!

one person from www.penta-club.ru just purchased it off ebay for
~USD $295 all inclusive

he promised to post some pictures once the lens will be delivered.

david87 · 12-18-2008, 07:45 AM

does anyone have a ebay link to the polar lens with the a setting instead of the full manual lens?

Mountain Vision · 12-18-2008, 05:09 PM

Samyang, might not have a huge following in the US but I have a few Samyang lenses and if you look up some data on them, they have some very good lenses for a fractional cost.

As far as the build of the lenses Miserere linked to. Those look like Nikon build, and not Nikon consumer but higher end Nikor glass.

I just bought a 90mm lens so I'm not in a hurry for this, but if I found one for $200, based on the photo comparison on the asian site, I'd have no problems with this lens!

deejjjaaaa · 12-18-2008, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by david87

does anyone have a ebay link to the polar lens with the a setting instead of the full manual lens?

New 85mm f1.4 Lens for Pentax K10D K20D K100D K200D - eBay (item 360116713123 end time Dec-25-08 03:23:35 PST)

seller states that actual lenses are w/ "A" setting and picture is just a generic, old image... at least that is what buyer from penta-club.ru reports about his transaction w/ said seller

deejjjaaaa · 01-09-2009, 10:21 AM

He got his lens

Samyang/Polar/Walimex 85/1.4 - Ôîðóìû Ïåíòà-êëóáà

you might need translate.google.com or babelfish

Quicksand · 01-09-2009, 02:11 PM

I'll wait to see more samples before final judgment -- but LORDY that pic at f/1.4 (of the ceramic tile chair-back insert) is terrible.

farfisa · 01-09-2009, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by Quicksand

I'll wait to see more samples before final judgment -- but LORDY that pic at f/1.4 (of the ceramic tile chair-back insert) is terrible.

Yeah, I'm wondering where he was focusing--looks sharp at the very bottom edge of the frame. But that image isn't going to cause a sales rush.

**Lowell Goudge** · 01-09-2009, 02:22 PM

lots of great CA and fringing wide open though

Igilligan · 01-09-2009, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by Lowell Goudge

lots of great CA and fringing wide open though

The focus at the bottom is weird but who knows what they were focusing on... and we all know our pentax cams have no FF/BF issues

But as far as the CA/PF... I do not believe our FA 50 1.4's wide open would have done any better...

deejjjaaaa · 01-09-2009, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by farfisa

Yeah, I'm wondering where he was focusing

he writes that he was aiming at the left (left from him) edge of the oval ceramic insert... and in second scene (1st picture w/ Tokina, 2nd w/ Samyang) at the ceramic ball/globe

deejjjaaaa · 01-09-2009, 04:16 PM

further examples from that person

Quicksand · 01-09-2009, 05:22 PM

The portrait is at f/4.5 and the bench at f/5.6 -- c'mon, nobody's gonna buy this lens to use it at f/4+!

With that out of the way, it does seem to sharpen up decently, and there's much less CA and better contrast.

Hexar · 01-09-2009, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by Quicksand

The portrait is at f/4.5 and the bench at f/5.6 -- c'mon, nobody's gonna buy this lens to use it at f/4+!

With that out of the way, it does seem to sharpen up decently, and there's much less CA and better contrast.

The CA on the chair pic were due to black subject on almost white background under extremely bright sun. Any lens will give CA under these conditions.

But CA is the least of my worries. The build is. Although it might look like Sigma EX DG line, the upper part of the lens cup (with golden Samyang sticker) is made of a very fragile plastic, and can be easily broken. If you put on the hood which is also made of plastic, the chances of breaking this fragile construction are very high. Frankly I am not excited. Buying one of Cosina/Voigtlander Noktons is definitely a better idea. At least for their resale value.

I will try to take decent samples over the weekend both on digital camera and film (I was too busy today and practically had no time), but I am already inclined to get rid of it.

For those who complain of me not using the lens at 1.4 - I am in the Southern Hemisphere, in the middle of the summer with extremely bright sun always above your head. Not your ideal conditions to use it at 1.4. And for those who didn't understand who I am, I am the "person" from the Russian site who was stupid enough to buy this lens

deejjjaaaa · 01-09-2009, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by Hexar

The CA on the chair pic were due to black subject on almost white background under extremely bright sun. Any lens will give CA under these conditions.

they will show you no mercy here, Hexar.

Hexar · 01-09-2009, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by deejjjaaaa

they will show you no mercy here, Hexar.

I am not Korean, I am not going to defend their pride

But I took a picture of the same chair with my SMCP FA 50/1.4 2 minutes after taking this one, and it was not much different. CA were all over the place.

01-09-2009, 02:38 PM	#39
Igilligan Guest	Haha Originally posted by Lowell Goudge lots of great CA and fringing wide open though The focus at the bottom is weird but who knows what they were focusing on... and we all know our pentax cams have no FF/BF issues But as far as the CA/PF... I do not believe our FA 50 1.4's wide open would have done any better...

01-09-2009, 04:16 PM	#41
deejjjaaaa Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: steel city / rust belt Posts: 2,043	further examples from that person Last edited by deejjjaaaa; 01-10-2009 at 12:29 AM.

01-09-2009, 07:29 PM	#43
Hexar Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 7	Originally posted by Quicksand The portrait is at f/4.5 and the bench at f/5.6 -- c'mon, nobody's gonna buy this lens to use it at f/4+! With that out of the way, it does seem to sharpen up decently, and there's much less CA and better contrast. The CA on the chair pic were due to black subject on almost white background under extremely bright sun. Any lens will give CA under these conditions. But CA is the least of my worries. The build is. Although it might look like Sigma EX DG line, the upper part of the lens cup (with golden Samyang sticker) is made of a very fragile plastic, and can be easily broken. If you put on the hood which is also made of plastic, the chances of breaking this fragile construction are very high. Frankly I am not excited. Buying one of Cosina/Voigtlander Noktons is definitely a better idea. At least for their resale value. I will try to take decent samples over the weekend both on digital camera and film (I was too busy today and practically had no time), but I am already inclined to get rid of it. For those who complain of me not using the lens at 1.4 - I am in the Southern Hemisphere, in the middle of the summer with extremely bright sun always above your head. Not your ideal conditions to use it at 1.4. And for those who didn't understand who I am, I am the "person" from the Russian site who was stupid enough to buy this lens Last edited by Hexar; 01-09-2009 at 08:34 PM.

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12-17-2008, 02:32 PM	#31
deejjjaaaa Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: steel city / rust belt Posts: 2,043	Staff note: This post may contain affiliate links, which means Pentax Forums may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. If you would like to support the forum directly, you may also make a donation here. Originally posted by rparmar If someone can get this lens for EURO 200, they should. I doubt it would be a bad purchase at that price! one person from www.penta-club.ru just purchased it off ebay for ~USD $295 all inclusive he promised to post some pictures once the lens will be delivered.

12-18-2008, 07:45 AM	#32
david87 Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8	does anyone have a ebay link to the polar lens with the a setting instead of the full manual lens?

12-18-2008, 05:09 PM	#33
Mountain Vision Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: America's First Wilderness Posts: 529	Samyang, might not have a huge following in the US but I have a few Samyang lenses and if you look up some data on them, they have some very good lenses for a fractional cost. As far as the build of the lenses Miserere linked to. Those look like Nikon build, and not Nikon consumer but higher end Nikor glass. I just bought a 90mm lens so I'm not in a hurry for this, but if I found one for $200, based on the photo comparison on the asian site, I'd have no problems with this lens!

12-18-2008, 06:54 PM	#34
deejjjaaaa Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: steel city / rust belt Posts: 2,043	Originally posted by david87 does anyone have a ebay link to the polar lens with the a setting instead of the full manual lens? New 85mm f1.4 Lens for Pentax K10D K20D K100D K200D - eBay (item 360116713123 end time Dec-25-08 03:23:35 PST) seller states that actual lenses are w/ "A" setting and picture is just a generic, old image... at least that is what buyer from penta-club.ru reports about his transaction w/ said seller

01-09-2009, 10:21 AM	#35
deejjjaaaa Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: steel city / rust belt Posts: 2,043	He got his lens Samyang/Polar/Walimex 85/1.4 - Ôîðóìû Ïåíòà-êëóáà you might need translate.google.com or babelfish

01-09-2009, 02:11 PM	#36
Quicksand Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Ohio (formerly SF Bay Area) Posts: 1,519	I'll wait to see more samples before final judgment -- but LORDY that pic at f/1.4 (of the ceramic tile chair-back insert) is terrible.

01-09-2009, 02:16 PM	#37
farfisa Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,274	Originally posted by Quicksand I'll wait to see more samples before final judgment -- but LORDY that pic at f/1.4 (of the ceramic tile chair-back insert) is terrible. Yeah, I'm wondering where he was focusing--looks sharp at the very bottom edge of the frame. But that image isn't going to cause a sales rush.

01-09-2009, 02:22 PM	#38
Lowell Goudge Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,891	lots of great CA and fringing wide open though

01-09-2009, 02:46 PM	#40
deejjjaaaa Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: steel city / rust belt Posts: 2,043	Originally posted by farfisa Yeah, I'm wondering where he was focusing he writes that he was aiming at the left (left from him) edge of the oval ceramic insert... and in second scene (1st picture w/ Tokina, 2nd w/ Samyang) at the ceramic ball/globe

01-09-2009, 05:22 PM	#42
Quicksand Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Ohio (formerly SF Bay Area) Posts: 1,519	The portrait is at f/4.5 and the bench at f/5.6 -- c'mon, nobody's gonna buy this lens to use it at f/4+! With that out of the way, it does seem to sharpen up decently, and there's much less CA and better contrast.

01-09-2009, 07:37 PM	#44
deejjjaaaa Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: steel city / rust belt Posts: 2,043	Originally posted by Hexar The CA on the chair pic were due to black subject on almost white background under extremely bright sun. Any lens will give CA under these conditions. they will show you no mercy here, Hexar.

01-09-2009, 07:43 PM	#45
Hexar Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 7	Originally posted by deejjjaaaa they will show you no mercy here, Hexar. I am not Korean, I am not going to defend their pride But I took a picture of the same chair with my SMCP FA 50/1.4 2 minutes after taking this one, and it was not much different. CA were all over the place.