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12-22-2008, 03:45 PM   #16
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I hope that no one is trying to compare the 50-135mm to the 60-250mm. One is a walk around/portrait lens, the other is an outdoor sport/wildlife lens. When I am shooting soccer games and the like, the 200mm is too long at times and while the 50-135mm is great, sometimes that gap from 135-200mm just really shows its ugly head. The 60-250mm would be a great lens. I could see myself using this on the sidelines of a football game easilly. I am looking forward to this lens very much. But I will wait for the price to come down just a bit as I have other things to purchase.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Ben_Edict Quote
It is big and somewhat heavy compared to many APS-C optimised lenses - but not worse so, than a 70-200/2.8, may be even a bit smaller.
There's the clincher, the difference between 250 and 200 is not that big but you have the faster aperture and you can throw a TC on the thing because it's f/2.8. Not to mention it's much cheaper.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Alfisti Quote
There's the clincher, the difference between 250 and 200 is not that big but you have the faster aperture and you can throw a TC on the thing because it's f/2.8. Not to mention it's much cheaper.
Oh, the Pentax (FA) 80-200/2.8 was never cheaper, quite to the contrary. It is much more expensive than the 60-250, even well used... You cannot compare the plasticky Tamron or the mass-produced Sigma to the new Pentax. I am not bashing the third party lenses, I use happily a whole bunch of Sigmas and a Tamron and some others, but original manufacturer's lenses are always more expensive, than third party offereings. I bet, if the 60-250 would sport a Nikon or Canon label it would be 300 USD more expensive, than Pentax sells it.

Also, despite I use my Sigma 70-200/2.8 with the Sigma Apo TCs, I am not sure the combined quality is en par with the Pentax. As I haven't taken any meaningful images with the Pentax, I can't compare that. What I can say, that the Sigma+tc combo is decidedly longer, than the 60-250.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Alfisti Quote
There's the clincher, the difference between 250 and 200 is not that big but you have the faster aperture and you can throw a TC on the thing because it's f/2.8. Not to mention it's much cheaper.
I'd like to see some results from a 50-135mm + tc. I agree on the less expensive cost, but wonder about image quality. the sample 60-250mm pics i once glimpsed were very sharp.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Ben_Edict Quote
I bet, if the 60-250 would sport a Nikon or Canon label it would be 300 USD more expensive, than Pentax sells it.
Well, EF 70-200 f/4 is around $600 , IS (4 stop) version $1000 as well as f/2.8 NON IS, f/2.8 IS around $1500 ............ go figure.
f/4 IS is probably the best zoom lens ever made .......
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Ivoire : I will oblige with a couple of sample shots for you on this thread, in a couple of hours ( or maybe sooner).

Shots will be with the 50-135 + Tamron 1.4X TC.

Cheers.
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Ivoire :

Here are two quickly snapped shots foryou.
Note the light was very poor but these should give you some indication :

Taken at 135mm no TC



Taken at 135mm with 1.4 TC attached.

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$1395, US correct. That's now about $1500 Canadian. I can get the D300 and use my fast Nikkor glass, that exists.

Or get the 50-135 which looks great. Like one person mentioned, this FL is pretty good for my use, but need the 200 sometimes.Maybe look at the 50-135 instead.



I have waited to long for this lens, i've Ohmmed long enough.:-)

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QuoteOriginally posted by pentkon52 Quote
$1395, US correct. That's now about $1500 Canadian.
Sorry Dave but your math is not good........... 1 US$ = 1.22-ish CAD$ , which means 1.22x1395= $ 1700
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QuoteOriginally posted by klika Quote
Well, EF 70-200 f/4 is around $600 , IS (4 stop) version $1000 as well as f/2.8 NON IS, f/2.8 IS around $1500 ............ go figure.
f/4 IS is probably the best zoom lens ever made .......
Yes, the non-IS version is quite cheap. But don't forget, the 70-200 is a commodity computation, whereas the 60-250 not only sports the same fixed aperture over a wider focal range (4.2x zoom factor versus 2.9x for the Canon), but is also a brand new optical formulation. Also the Pentax production run surely is at least four times lower, than Canon's. Taken everything into consideration, I still find the Pentax offering is priced affordably and sensibly.

You can think of it in another way: the starvin amateur photog will find a cheap substitute with the 55-300mm lens, which even offers a slightly wider range and the 60-250 is the pro's choice, who also needs SDM and the environmental sealing (which the Canon does not sport).

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i have the 50-135 and i dont need 60-250 anymore. if i havent had 50-135 maybe i would think to get the new da* zoom. But 50-135 + 200 should be more useful for portrait & walkaround & street & wildlife & stands while its still f:2.8 and not extending.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Bramela Quote
Ivoire :

Here are two quickly snapped shots foryou.
Note the light was very poor but these should give you some indication :

Taken at 135mm no TC



Taken at 135mm with 1.4 TC attached.

thanx, those look pretty good to me
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For the suggested price of the DA* 60-250mm (which I got fed up waiting for) I bought myself a used Sigma APO EX 70-200mm f2.8, Sigma DG EX 2X teleconverter, Pentax F* 300mm f4.5 and Tamron 1.4X MC4 Teleconverter.

And I still had change .. altho I admit .. not a lot
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I think the price could be a bit lower but it's just the launch and suggested retail price. It'll go down anyway.

Let's just hope the optics are superb. You never know if it's worth its price. We do have very expensive prime lens glass but we think they're worth it right? Let's wait and see
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QuoteOriginally posted by klika Quote
Sorry Dave but your math is not good........... 1 US$ = 1.22-ish CAD$ , which means 1.22x1395= $ 1700
Ya, forgot to carry that 1.:-)

Now i can get a D300 to go with my new SB800.:-)

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