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12-26-2008, 06:07 PM   #1
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Need some insight

Okay, I have really fallen in love with my SMC 50 and feel that I should compliment it with a wider lens. Would you recommend a 28 mm or wider? Any recommendations will be appreciated. Also, what price range would be reasonable? I have noticed that alot of prices are going up on ebay. Please help!


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12-26-2008, 08:33 PM   #2
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Are you looking for an older, manual lens? There are a lot of 28mm f/2.8 K lenses that are cheap and decent. I'd expect to pay no more than about $100, and you might find some bargains well below that. And if you aren't planning on using any other wider lenses then it could be the start of a set of lenses that have ~2X multiples of the focal length (200, 100, 50, 28, 15) which makes for a decent kit (there is a 15mm manual K lens, but it's hard to find / however a new 15mm DA Limited is scheduled for release in 2009).
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you can try SMC FA 28/2.8 or SMC FA 35/2, both very inexpensive.

I had both and liked both, but found 35 mm more suited for everyday photography with excellent sharpness up to F2 and nice bokeh. I practically keep it on my camera all the time. There is old version Super Takumar 35 F2 for the M42 mount, I had it too, but didn't like it at all.
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28mm isn't really all that wide on digital, but it *is* a very nice focal length in many situations. A 28 and a 50 make for a nice pair - the 50 being a little longer than what is traditionally considered "normal", and the 28 being a little wider than "normal". I use my 28 with my 40 this way more often, because I find 50 *too* much longer than normal most of the time. But I do sometimes take the 50 instead of the 40, and when I do I'm always struck by how well the focal lengths complement each other on digital.

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Yeah, I am looking for a good everyday lens. Right now I am shooting alot of "street" stuff and find the 50 a little to long as well. I was thinking about an old 35mm manual, or a 28mm. AWO, what did you not like about the M42 35? I should say that I have not used a M42 mount lens, I assume there is no real difference, am I wrong?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Aaron1971 Quote
AWO, what did you not like about the M42 35? I should say that I have not used a M42 mount lens, I assume there is no real difference, am I wrong?
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12-26-2008, 11:16 PM   #7
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[QUOTE=Mike Cash;430372]Shooting anything other than Takumar is like kissing your sister.

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Well, I don't know Aaron's sister, but I can recommend the A (or K) 24/2.8 if he wants something a little wider than normal on APS-C.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Aaron1971 Quote
Yeah, I am looking for a good everyday lens. Right now I am shooting alot of "street" stuff and find the 50 a little to long as well. I was thinking about an old 35mm manual, or a 28mm. AWO, what did you not like about the M42 35? I should say that I have not used a M42 mount lens, I assume there is no real difference, am I wrong?
Well, the difference is that the Takumars are better, IMO.

The Super Tak 28mm f/3.5 is an awesome lens. My current favorite. It's very sharp, and just wide enough.

I had the Super Tak 35mm f/3.5 and really didn't like it. The viewfinder was way dark with shadows nearly blacking out the viewfinder at times. A highly regarded lens, but I sold that off quick.

Yes, the Super Tak 28mm f/3.5 is a real gem, and I highly recommend it. It's all but welded to the front of my camera these days.

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Cool, Sounds like the Tak 28 is for me then.....
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The 28/3.5 and the 35/3.5 both having a maximum aperture of f3.5....there is no difference in which would be brighter or darker.

The 35/2 is an outstanding lens; the extra brightness of f2 over f3.5 really does help out. However, the 35/3.5 is certainly no slouch. I invite you to take a look at a few photos done with it.

The 35/2 is harder to find and sells for double (or more) what the 35/3.5 does. The 28/3.5 is easy to find.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mike Cash Quote
The 28/3.5 and the 35/3.5 both having a maximum aperture of f3.5....there is no difference in which would be brighter or darker.
Not the case when looking through the viewfinder on my K100D with a stock focusing screen. The 35mm f/3.5 was much darker if I looked through the viewfinder at anything but perfectly straight on. I didn't hallucinate this anomaly, trust me.

BTW, my 35mm f/3.5 copy was mint just as my 28 is.

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While I'm in overall general agreement with Mike re. Takumars - the price/performance is unbeatable, and the lenses are just so well made - I'll put in a plug for the SMC-A 28 2.8. I simply like this lens, in direct comparison with a couple of Takumar 3.5's it holds its own in saturation and beats them - but not by a noticeable amount, just the jpeg size - in resolution. And you have full program exposure etc.

I love using the 28mm walking around - in any version - on both film and digital. Pentax 35mm lenses are if anything a bit better than their 28's; for me it was a matter of training myself to see in 35mm. Now, I'm equally happy walking around with my Tak 35.

I've yet to go to a 24 or wider Pentax prime, as the price curve starts to escalate. But from what I've read and seen, the super wide primes maintain the high performance we know and love.
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I have an SMC-A 28/2.8 that I would be willing to sell the OP. Don't know if he saw my message to that effect in reply to his Marketplace post or not.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Aaron1971 Quote
Yeah, I am looking for a good everyday lens. Right now I am shooting alot of "street" stuff and find the 50 a little to long as well. I was thinking about an old 35mm manual, or a 28mm. AWO, what did you not like about the M42 35? I should say that I have not used a M42 mount lens, I assume there is no real difference, am I wrong?
M42 version of Super Takumar 35/F2 is very different in optical formula and design from FA 35/F2
It is twice bigger and I had to stop it down to F2.8 at least, to get sharp images.
FA 35/F2 is small, it's the same size as FA 50/1.4, and it is sharp at F2. It also comes with a lens hood.
I had M42 Super Tack 35/2 for a year or so, bought it for available light photography indoors, but sold it as soon as my friend gave me to try his FA 35/2.

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I would also look at this beauty: SIGMA AF 30 mm F/1.4 EX DC
I've seen outstanding results from this lens on Nikon D300, but then again if something like this is opened at 1.4, DOF is so thin that to get decent images camera focusing should be dead on. And from what I've learned, my K10D had real issues when focusing Sigma lenses.
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