Adorama listing a lens that doesn't exist?

jsherman999 · 01-01-2009, 06:21 PM

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What do you make of this?

Pentax-M 50mm f/2.8 1:1 Macro

Is it really a Sigma, really the A 50 2.8 Macro, or really the M 50 f/4 Macro(both actually 1:2) ?

Or something else?

Or did this M 50 2.8 1:1: Macro just appear out of the Bermuda Triangle?

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jsherman999 · 01-01-2009, 06:23 PM

OK, disregard...

Now that page doesn't exist. Did a few hours ago.

Should have grabbed a screenshot

cardinal43 · 01-01-2009, 06:35 PM

Still feeling the effects of that party last night I see.

newarts · 01-01-2009, 06:38 PM

There IS a 1:1 50mm f/4 "Macro-Takumar" I have one. It is a great lens.

jsherman999 · 01-01-2009, 06:48 PM

Originally posted by cardinal43

Still feeling the effects of that party last night I see.

No, really - it was there. I re-read it several times, even checked the Pentax lens review forum to make sure it didn't actually exist....

Whats more, I ordered it ($99) - I figured that no matter what 50mm macro it was, it was worth $99 in E condition (M 50 f/4 = $150, A 50 2.8 = $200+, Tak 50 macro = $100... etc)

We'll see what I get and if I want to return it, but here's the invoice Adorama mailed me:

Quote:

You ordered the following items:

SKU Brand Product Qty Price Total
-------------------- ---------------------------------------- --- ----------- -----------
US 324020 Pentax-m 50 2.8 Macro 1:1 Lens *49mm E- 1 99.00 99.00

----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- -----------

Subtotal: 99.00
Tax: 0.00

Insurance + Shipping:
General Items - Standard Shipping 4-6 Business Days 6.95

The page probably disappeared because I ordered the only one, but what the heck did I actually order?!?

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newarts · 01-01-2009, 07:08 PM

I eagerly wait to hear about what you receive!

Good luck!

ftpaddict · 01-01-2009, 07:57 PM

Holga 80mm f/4.5.

Jewelltrail · 01-01-2009, 10:58 PM

J:

I can't see how you could lose on this one.

Looking forward to your update here.

jsherman999 · 01-05-2009, 04:50 PM

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Update...

I called Adorama this morning, and left a message in the used dept - a very nice fellow got got back to me right away (good cust service!)

He sad that the lens had already shipped, so he couldn't verify it in person, but as far as their SKU was concerned, it's a Pentax-M 50 2.8 macro with 1:1 magnification and a 49mm filter ring.

I explained that, according to all my sources, this lens was never manufactured....

The Sigma 50 2.8 macro goes 1:1 (right?) but it doesn't have a 49mm filter ring. The Pentax A 50 2.8 macro does have a 49mm filter ring, but it only goes 1:2.

The Adorama guy said that they may have entered it into their database wrong. (I mentioned that that's the only rational explanation, unless Pentax did make an M 50 2.8 macro that no-one in te world seems to have heard of.)

I'm betting that I get either 1) a Sigma 50 2.8 macro, or 2) a Pentax A 50 2.8 1:2 macro.

I'm hoping it's the 2nd, which would mean I paid less than half of what it's worth.

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**monochrome** · 01-05-2009, 05:43 PM

Interesting that not 5 days later a new member asks how to set the aperture on an M50 1:2.8 lens lent him by his mother

(cue Twilight Zone theme)

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/45925-pentax-k110d...-2-8-lens.html

I saw no such animal on Boz's site.

newarts · 01-05-2009, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by jsherman999

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Update...

I called Adorama this morning, and left a message in the used dept - a very nice fellow got got back to me right away (good cust service!)

He sad that the lens had already shipped, so he couldn't verify it in person, but as far as their SKU was concerned, it's a Pentax-M 50 2.8 macro with 1:1 magnification and a 49mm filter ring.
...

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I have a 50mm 1:4 Macro Takumar that has a max magnification of 1:1, m42 mount. Perhaps that's what you'll get.

It is a dandy lens. I use it a lot.

arpaagent · 01-05-2009, 06:08 PM

There is a pentax 50mm lens f2.8 that goes 1:1. The F and FA series do this. I have the FA and it is AWESOME. You should hope that it is one of these!

jsherman999 · 01-05-2009, 06:34 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

Interesting that not 5 days later a new member asks how to set the aperture on an M50 1:2.8 lens lent him by his mother

(cue Twilight Zone theme)

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/45925-pentax-k110d...-2-8-lens.html

I saw no such animal on Boz's site.

Maybe it's like the "Bigfoot Lens" - Paleantologists and Biologists have never seen any evidence, but the occasional layman encounters one.

Originally posted by newarts

I have a 50mm 1:4 Macro Takumar that has a max magnification of 1:1, m42 mount. Perhaps that's what you'll get.
...

It is a dandy lens. I use it a lot.

That would be very sweet.

Originally posted by arpaagent

There is a pentax 50mm lens f2.8 that goes 1:1. The F and FA series do this. I have the FA and it is AWESOME. You should hope that it is one of these!

It could very well be, but I think it's more likely a MF lens. The Adorama guy I talked to said that the person they had cataloging it was new and didn't speak English very well, so who knows what it could be.

I used to own the FA 50 2.8, sold it to get the DA 35, and yes, it's blisteringly sharp. I loved that lens.

If it's the AF or F, that's about a $280 - $380 lens - The A is probably $250. Any of the Taks are going to be at least $120, and even the Sigma is worth $100, so, yeah, I can't really lose....?

Strangely enough, this episode has made me more likely to cruise Adorama's site, now - who knows what else will pop up! (Loch Ness Monster?)

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Helen Oster · 01-06-2009, 06:18 AM

Originally posted by jsherman999

Strangely enough, this episode has made me more likely to cruise Adorama's site, now - who knows what else will pop up! (Loch Ness Monster?)

I couldn't identify from your posting who you might have been in contact with at Adorama - but obviously, when it arrives, if you aren't completely happy with it please contact me with your order number and I will take care of it for you - or you can contact Joel in the used department (joelm@adorama.com), directly.

Sincerely
Helen Oster
Adorama Camera Customer Service Ambassador

helen.oster@adoramacamera.com
Digital cameras, all other cameras and everything photographic from Adorama Camera

jsherman999 · 01-06-2009, 07:27 AM

Originally posted by Helen Oster

I couldn't identify from your posting who you might have been in contact with at Adorama - but obviously, when it arrives, if you aren't completely happy with it please contact me with your order number and I will take care of it for you - or you can contact Joel in the used department (joelm@adorama.com), directly.

Sincerely
Helen Oster
Adorama Camera Customer Service Ambassador

helen.oster@adoramacamera.com
Digital cameras, all other cameras and everything photographic from Adorama Camera

Thanks Helen, I was always confident Adorama would make it right if I had any problems. As it stands, I'm excited to see what I actually get and have been treated very well by your folks so far. No worries.

Quote:

SECAUCUS,
NJ, US 01/06/2009 4:01 A.M. DEPARTURE SCAN

SECAUCUS,
NJ, US 01/05/2009 9:54 P.M. ORIGIN SCAN

US 01/05/2009 7:41 P.M. BILLING INFORMATION RECEIVED

Tracking results provided by UPS: 01/06/2009 9:26 A.M. ET

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01-01-2009, 06:21 PM	#1
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237	Adorama listing a lens that doesn't exist? . What do you make of this? Pentax-M 50mm f/2.8 1:1 Macro Is it really a Sigma, really the A 50 2.8 Macro, or really the M 50 f/4 Macro(both actually 1:2) ? Or something else? Or did this M 50 2.8 1:1: Macro just appear out of the Bermuda Triangle? .

01-01-2009, 06:48 PM	#5
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237 Original Poster	Originally posted by cardinal43 Still feeling the effects of that party last night I see. No, really - it was there. I re-read it several times, even checked the Pentax lens review forum to make sure it didn't actually exist.... Whats more, I ordered it ($99) - I figured that no matter what 50mm macro it was, it was worth $99 in E condition (M 50 f/4 = $150, A 50 2.8 = $200+, Tak 50 macro = $100... etc) We'll see what I get and if I want to return it, but here's the invoice Adorama mailed me: Quote: You ordered the following items: SKU Brand Product Qty Price Total -------------------- ---------------------------------------- --- ----------- ----------- US 324020 *Pentax-m 50 2.8 Macro 1:1 Lens 49mm** E- 1 99.00 99.00 ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- ----------- Subtotal: 99.00 Tax: 0.00 Insurance + Shipping: General Items - Standard Shipping 4-6 Business Days 6.95 The page probably disappeared because I ordered the only one, but what the heck did I actually order?!? . Last edited by jsherman999; 01-01-2009 at 06:54 PM.

01-05-2009, 05:43 PM	#10
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	M 50mm 1:2.8 Interesting that not 5 days later a new member asks how to set the aperture on an M50 1:2.8 lens lent him by his mother (cue Twilight Zone theme) https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/45925-pentax-k110d...-2-8-lens.html I saw no such animal on Boz's site.

01-06-2009, 06:18 AM	#14
Helen Oster Adorama Camera Representative Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New York Posts: 550	Adorama Camera Customer Service Originally posted by jsherman999 Strangely enough, this episode has made me more likely to cruise Adorama's site, now - who knows what else will pop up! (Loch Ness Monster?) I couldn't identify from your posting who you might have been in contact with at Adorama - but obviously, when it arrives, if you aren't completely happy with it please contact me with your order number and I will take care of it for you - or you can contact Joel in the used department (joelm@adorama.com), directly. Sincerely Helen Oster Adorama Camera Customer Service Ambassador helen.oster@adoramacamera.com Digital cameras, all other cameras and everything photographic from Adorama Camera

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01-01-2009, 06:23 PM	#2
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237 Original Poster	OK, disregard... Now that page doesn't exist. Did a few hours ago. Should have grabbed a screenshot

01-01-2009, 06:35 PM	#3
cardinal43 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,412	Still feeling the effects of that party last night I see.

01-01-2009, 06:38 PM	#4
newarts Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Ames, Iowa, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 2,965	There IS a 1:1 50mm f/4 "Macro-Takumar" I have one. It is a great lens.

01-01-2009, 07:08 PM	#6
newarts Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Ames, Iowa, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 2,965	I eagerly wait to hear about what you receive! Good luck!

01-01-2009, 07:57 PM	#7
ftpaddict Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Yurp Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,666	Holga 80mm f/4.5.

01-01-2009, 10:58 PM	#8
Jewelltrail Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Rhode Island Photos: Albums Posts: 4,180	J: I can't see how you could lose on this one. Looking forward to your update here.

01-05-2009, 04:50 PM	#9
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237 Original Poster	. Update... I called Adorama this morning, and left a message in the used dept - a very nice fellow got got back to me right away (good cust service!) He sad that the lens had already shipped, so he couldn't verify it in person, but as far as their SKU was concerned, it's a Pentax-M 50 2.8 macro with 1:1 magnification and a 49mm filter ring. I explained that, according to all my sources, this lens was never manufactured.... The Sigma 50 2.8 macro goes 1:1 (right?) but it doesn't have a 49mm filter ring. The Pentax A 50 2.8 macro does have a 49mm filter ring, but it only goes 1:2. The Adorama guy said that they may have entered it into their database wrong. (I mentioned that that's the only rational explanation, unless Pentax did make an M 50 2.8 macro that no-one in te world seems to have heard of.) I'm betting that I get either 1) a Sigma 50 2.8 macro, or 2) a Pentax A 50 2.8 1:2 macro. I'm hoping it's the 2nd, which would mean I paid less than half of what it's worth. .

01-05-2009, 06:06 PM	#11
newarts Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Ames, Iowa, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 2,965	Originally posted by jsherman999 . Update... I called Adorama this morning, and left a message in the used dept - a very nice fellow got got back to me right away (good cust service!) He sad that the lens had already shipped, so he couldn't verify it in person, but as far as their SKU was concerned, it's a Pentax-M 50 2.8 macro with 1:1 magnification and a 49mm filter ring. ... . I have a 50mm 1:4 Macro Takumar that has a max magnification of 1:1, m42 mount. Perhaps that's what you'll get. It is a dandy lens. I use it a lot.

01-05-2009, 06:08 PM	#12
arpaagent Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Raleigh, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 803	There is a pentax 50mm lens f2.8 that goes 1:1. The F and FA series do this. I have the FA and it is AWESOME. You should hope that it is one of these!

01-05-2009, 06:34 PM	#13
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237 Original Poster	Originally posted by monochrome Interesting that not 5 days later a new member asks how to set the aperture on an M50 1:2.8 lens lent him by his mother (cue Twilight Zone theme) https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/45925-pentax-k110d...-2-8-lens.html I saw no such animal on Boz's site. Maybe it's like the "Bigfoot Lens" - Paleantologists and Biologists have never seen any evidence, but the occasional layman encounters one. Originally posted by newarts I have a 50mm 1:4 Macro Takumar that has a max magnification of 1:1, m42 mount. Perhaps that's what you'll get. ... It is a dandy lens. I use it a lot. That would be very sweet. Originally posted by arpaagent There is a pentax 50mm lens f2.8 that goes 1:1. The F and FA series do this. I have the FA and it is AWESOME. You should hope that it is one of these! It could very well be, but I think it's more likely a MF lens. The Adorama guy I talked to said that the person they had cataloging it was new and didn't speak English very well, so who knows what it could be. I used to own the FA 50 2.8, sold it to get the DA 35, and yes, it's blisteringly sharp. I loved that lens. If it's the AF or F, that's about a $280 - $380 lens - The A is probably $250. Any of the Taks are going to be at least $120, and even the Sigma is worth $100, so, yeah, I can't really lose....? Strangely enough, this episode has made me more likely to cruise Adorama's site, now - who knows what else will pop up! (Loch Ness Monster?) .

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01-06-2009, 07:27 AM	#15
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237 Original Poster	Originally posted by Helen Oster I couldn't identify from your posting who you might have been in contact with at Adorama - but obviously, when it arrives, if you aren't completely happy with it please contact me with your order number and I will take care of it for you - or you can contact Joel in the used department (joelm@adorama.com), directly. Sincerely Helen Oster Adorama Camera Customer Service Ambassador helen.oster@adoramacamera.com Digital cameras, all other cameras and everything photographic from Adorama Camera Thanks Helen, I was always confident Adorama would make it right if I had any problems. As it stands, I'm excited to see what I actually get and have been treated very well by your folks so far. No worries. Quote: SECAUCUS, NJ, US 01/06/2009 4:01 A.M. DEPARTURE SCAN SECAUCUS, NJ, US 01/05/2009 9:54 P.M. ORIGIN SCAN US 01/05/2009 7:41 P.M. BILLING INFORMATION RECEIVED Tracking results provided by UPS: 01/06/2009 9:26 A.M. ET .