DA 35mm ltd samples please

redpigeons · 01-02-2009, 10:02 AM

I would love if you could help me find some sample for this lens being used for not macro shots. most of the samples I see on line is for its macro capability

I am looking for the best normal lens I could could for my k20D

the 31mm have its name but its pricey and its not DA? ( maybe on cropped body I am not getting the best of this lens?)

on the other hand the 35 is cheaper and its DA but 2.8 is SLOW for a prime...

which bring me to my last questions why all the new Pentax primes for digital are slower then the FA ones? does digital sensor less demanding about speed?

if you have any samples mostly for street candid style with the DA 35 I would love if you could share with me

Thanks!

sagar · 01-02-2009, 10:11 AM

By any chance did you check samples on photozone?

Pentax SMC DA 35mm f/2.8 Limited macro - Review / Test Report

ivoire · 01-02-2009, 10:14 AM

heres a few from a recent bike ride in IL. second train pic is a crop

Sean Nelson · 01-02-2009, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by redpigeons

the 31mm have its name but its pricey and its not DA? ( maybe on cropped body I am not getting the best of this lens?)

There's no problem with using the 31mm on a cropped body, and it's a better lens than the DA35. But it doesn't focus as close, and it doesn't have the quick-shift focusing that the DA lenses have.

Here are a few shots taken with the DA35 on my K100D Super:

avian · 01-02-2009, 10:17 AM

Sean those first two photos are fantastic.

Syb · 01-02-2009, 10:22 AM

Hi! In this post are some recent examples. Wanna see more: check my Flickr photostream. You may want to look on Flickr for the "official lens tag" too.

It is one of my favourite lenses, and got a lot of use recently on a local photo trip.

redpigeons · 01-02-2009, 10:37 AM

wow guys!!!
thanks so much!!!! stunning images!!

you did not make my decision any easier

KjetilH · 01-02-2009, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by redpigeons

the 31mm have its name but its pricey and its not DA? ( maybe on cropped body I am not getting the best of this lens?)

on the other hand the 35 is cheaper and its DA but 2.8 is SLOW for a prime...

which bring me to my last questions why all the new Pentax primes for digital are slower then the FA ones? does digital sensor less demanding about speed?

(...)

As far as I know, it is not proven that the lenses optimized for digital are that much different. "Designed for digital" lenses are supposed to prevent the reflections off the digital sensor, but that is not much of a deal.
Most lenses are not outresolved (meaning the lens is the limitation for 'sharpness', not the sensor) by the sensor, even with the K20D, and therefore the FA or DA designations mostly doesn't matter. The focal lengths are another story, as the lenses were generally designed for other uses (e.g. a 50mm, being the standard FL on film, becomes a lens well suited for e.g. portraits due to smaller field of view), film lenses may be somewhat "odd".

The DA35 isn't really that slow. Compare it with the 50/2.8 macros on film. See?

And the reason why the lenses are somewhat slow, is size and weight. The loss of a stop is being "justified" by the fact that digital sensors are better at higher ISOs than film was. In general, of course. Add shake reduction, and I bet a K20D with a DA Ltd. could win over a FA Ltd. on a film camera.

cred1t · 01-02-2009, 12:40 PM

Only one pic, but I hope it'll help you!

jsherman999 · 01-02-2009, 12:50 PM

kauaiguy · 01-02-2009, 12:54 PM

one of my favorite close-up lenses. ok for walk-around, too, especially on hikes.

tcom · 01-02-2009, 01:08 PM

Here a few samples

I have a few full sized samples under DA 35/2.8 Macro - a set on Flickr

EricT · 01-02-2009, 01:24 PM

A couple more glowing reviews:
An Optical Paragon - photo.net
The Online Photographer: The SMC Pentax DA 35mm ?/2.8 Macro Limited
Pentax DA 35mm f/2.8 Macro Limited Lens Review

This one will definitely be my next purchase.

redpigeons · 01-02-2009, 03:25 PM

so bottom line (and I know I will not get a straight answer here)
but for a "normal" lens for street and indoor that will stay on my camera?

DA 35?

FA 35?

FA 31?

I can pay the money for the 31 just want to know that its worth it...

Blue · 01-02-2009, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by Sean Nelson

There's no problem with using the 31mm on a cropped body, and it's a better lens than the DA35. But it doesn't focus as close, and it doesn't have the quick-shift focusing that the DA lenses have.

Here are a few shots taken with the DA35 on my K100D Super:

Wooo hooo!

Another model rail road guy and one that does 0 gauge stuff!

01-02-2009, 10:02 AM	#1
redpigeons Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 943	DA 35mm ltd samples please I would love if you could help me find some sample for this lens being used for not macro shots. most of the samples I see on line is for its macro capability I am looking for the best normal lens I could could for my k20D the 31mm have its name but its pricey and its not DA? ( maybe on cropped body I am not getting the best of this lens?) on the other hand the 35 is cheaper and its DA but 2.8 is SLOW for a prime... which bring me to my last questions why all the new Pentax primes for digital are slower then the FA ones? does digital sensor less demanding about speed? if you have any samples mostly for street candid style with the DA 35 I would love if you could share with me Thanks!

01-02-2009, 10:14 AM	#3
ivoire Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,381	heres a few from a recent bike ride in IL. second train pic is a crop Last edited by ivoire; 04-18-2009 at 09:23 AM.

01-02-2009, 12:40 PM	#9
cred1t New Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Finland Posts: 4	Only one pic, but I hope it'll help you! Last edited by cred1t; 01-02-2009 at 12:46 PM.

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01-02-2009, 10:11 AM	#2
sagar Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Tampa Posts: 136	By any chance did you check samples on photozone? Pentax SMC DA 35mm f/2.8 Limited macro - Review / Test Report

01-02-2009, 10:15 AM	#4
Sean Nelson Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Vancouver BC Canada Posts: 353	Originally posted by redpigeons the 31mm have its name but its pricey and its not DA? ( maybe on cropped body I am not getting the best of this lens?) There's no problem with using the 31mm on a cropped body, and it's a better lens than the DA35. But it doesn't focus as close, and it doesn't have the quick-shift focusing that the DA lenses have. Here are a few shots taken with the DA35 on my K100D Super:

01-02-2009, 10:17 AM	#5
avian Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Melbourne Posts: 52	Sean those first two photos are fantastic.

01-02-2009, 10:22 AM	#6
Syb Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Near Utrecht, Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,221	Hi! In this post are some recent examples. Wanna see more: check my Flickr photostream. You may want to look on Flickr for the "official lens tag" too. It is one of my favourite lenses, and got a lot of use recently on a local photo trip.

01-02-2009, 10:37 AM	#7
redpigeons Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 943 Original Poster	wow guys!!! thanks so much!!!! stunning images!! you did not make my decision any easier

01-02-2009, 11:21 AM	#8
KjetilH Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oslo Photos: Gallery Posts: 309	Originally posted by redpigeons the 31mm have its name but its pricey and its not DA? ( maybe on cropped body I am not getting the best of this lens?) on the other hand the 35 is cheaper and its DA but 2.8 is SLOW for a prime... which bring me to my last questions why all the new Pentax primes for digital are slower then the FA ones? does digital sensor less demanding about speed? (...) As far as I know, it is not proven that the lenses optimized for digital are that much different. "Designed for digital" lenses are supposed to prevent the reflections off the digital sensor, but that is not much of a deal. Most lenses are not outresolved (meaning the lens is the limitation for 'sharpness', not the sensor) by the sensor, even with the K20D, and therefore the FA or DA designations mostly doesn't matter. The focal lengths are another story, as the lenses were generally designed for other uses (e.g. a 50mm, being the standard FL on film, becomes a lens well suited for e.g. portraits due to smaller field of view), film lenses may be somewhat "odd". The DA35 isn't really that slow. Compare it with the 50/2.8 macros on film. See? And the reason why the lenses are somewhat slow, is size and weight. The loss of a stop is being "justified" by the fact that digital sensors are better at higher ISOs than film was. In general, of course. Add shake reduction, and I bet a K20D with a DA Ltd. could win over a FA Ltd. on a film camera.

01-02-2009, 12:50 PM	#10
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237

01-02-2009, 12:54 PM	#11
kauaiguy Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: hawaii Photos: Gallery Posts: 62	one of my favorite close-up lenses. ok for walk-around, too, especially on hikes.

01-02-2009, 01:08 PM	#12
tcom Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Switzerland Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,293	Here a few samples I have a few full sized samples under DA 35/2.8 Macro - a set on Flickr

01-02-2009, 01:24 PM	#13
EricT Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 484	A couple more glowing reviews: An Optical Paragon - photo.net The Online Photographer: The SMC Pentax DA 35mm ?/2.8 Macro Limited Pentax DA 35mm f/2.8 Macro Limited Lens Review This one will definitely be my next purchase.

01-02-2009, 03:25 PM	#14
redpigeons Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 943 Original Poster	so bottom line (and I know I will not get a straight answer here) but for a "normal" lens for street and indoor that will stay on my camera? DA 35? FA 35? FA 31? I can pay the money for the 31 just want to know that its worth it...

01-02-2009, 03:45 PM	#15
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by Sean Nelson There's no problem with using the 31mm on a cropped body, and it's a better lens than the DA35. But it doesn't focus as close, and it doesn't have the quick-shift focusing that the DA lenses have. Here are a few shots taken with the DA35 on my K100D Super: Wooo hooo! Another model rail road guy and one that does 0 gauge stuff!