Question for 16-50mm owners

thomasjmpark · 03-26-2008, 03:35 AM

Really great shots Tbear

The 1st is incredible, this lens is next on my shopping list and will be ordered soon. Thanks.

daacon · 03-26-2008, 05:07 AM

Excellent ! Love the first and last shot. Your persistance paid off.

Mechan1k · 03-26-2008, 06:01 AM

Looks like the perserverence has paid off in returning faulty lens and finally come out with a good copy.

It was well worth it by the looks of it ... this is what this lens should have performed like day one out of the box.

Tbear · 03-26-2008, 06:06 AM

Originally posted by NYpHoToGraphEr

Great Photos.
You have 3 DA* lenses?
Wow you must have the cash...

Heh, not quite. I returned 2 copies of this lens before getting a good one. I own only one.

Tbear · 03-26-2008, 06:08 AM

Originally posted by Mechan1k

Looks like the perserverence has paid off in returning faulty lens and finally come out with a good copy.

It was well worth it by the looks of it ... this is what this lens should have performed like day one out of the box.

Very true, there still is no excuse for the lapse in QC with this lens. Had they taken their time with production and QC, Pentax would have hit a grand slam with this lens and won over many, many more customers.

Tbear · 03-26-2008, 06:10 AM

Originally posted by daacon

Excellent ! Love the first and last shot. Your persistance paid off.

Thank you, Dave. I was determined to get a good copy, because I knew that they existed. Hopefully, Pentax will learn a lesson from all this.

Tbear · 03-26-2008, 06:13 AM

Originally posted by thomasjmpark

Really great shots Tbear

The 1st is incredible, this lens is next on my shopping list and will be ordered soon. Thanks.

Thank you, Tom. You won't be disappointed, assuming you get a good one. If not, just keep returning until you get a winner. Hopefully, your first will be the last

Tbear · 03-26-2008, 06:14 AM

Originally posted by song_hm

Gorgeous shots TBear. Makes me want to give the 16-50 another shot.

Thank you, Song. Worth giving it another shot. Just make sure vendor has good return policy.

Tbear · 03-26-2008, 06:17 AM

Originally posted by roentarre

Yes, great shots all around.

You just renewed my confidence in this lens and would definitely use it again for some trips down the track. The colour, IMHO, is way better than Da 14

Thanks, Roentarre

I own the DA 14 as well and I can verify that your opinion is correct. The DA 14 is a very fine lens, but the contrast and color rendition is not as good as the DA* 16-50.

Tbear · 03-26-2008, 06:20 AM

Originally posted by vievetrick

WOW does not say enough. So WOW WOW, Great shots hope third time is a charm for you.

Thank you, Pat. Yes, indeed, the third time was very charmed! My experience was at times very frustrating, but in the end, it all payed off. Hopefully, Pentax will put priority on QC over production time in the future.

Tbear · 03-26-2008, 06:22 AM

Originally posted by Eaglerapids

Breathtaking photos, very nicely done:-).

Originally posted by gawan

Superb shots Tbear! I can't wait till I get my 16-50 back from the repair!

16-50 really performs well, if you have a good copy!

Thanks, Eagle and Gawan. When built with the proper care, this lens is sure to please.

Tuner571 · 03-26-2008, 07:49 AM

Great shots, I love the colors!

Cory

Fritz · 03-26-2008, 08:01 AM

Wow, those look really great. It's nice to see there are some good copies out there. But I have to admit the negative press has probably scared me off from ever buying this lens. Maybe I'd get one that is pre-tested to be a good copy.

**rparmar** · 03-26-2008, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by Fritz

But I have to admit the negative press has probably scared me off from ever buying this lens.

Me too. I struck it off my list of possible lenses. I must buy by mail and cannot afford to return lenses multiple times just to get one that's within spec. I think this is a scandal. Had I known of this before committing to Pentax I might have made a different system choice. Perhaps just as well that I did not!

VHDEL · 03-28-2008, 01:42 AM

I just finished testing my Dads DA*16-50mm on his K20D

From the images below would you think he has a defective copy?

Red circles are reference to the 100% crops
Green dot is where single point AF was aimed at.
Camera was on tripod SR off
2 sec timer delay

The unusual thing is the Pentax DA*16-50 tested slightly worse on my K10D than his K20D.
And the same tests using the Sigma 24-60 F2.8 @ 50mm was better on my K10 than his K20.

So waht do you think.....send it back??

Cheers

Del

View Poll Results: Is this DA*16-50mm good or bad?
Keep it -- it's good.	23	88.46%
Return it or send it in for repair.	3	11.54%
Voters: 26. You may not vote on this poll

03-28-2008, 01:42 AM	#555
VHDEL Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 57	*DA16-50 Test** I just finished testing my Dads DA16-50mm on his K20D From the images below would you think he has a defective copy? Red circles are reference to the 100% crops Green dot is where single point AF was aimed at. Camera was on tripod SR off 2 sec timer delay The unusual thing is the Pentax DA16-50 tested slightly worse on my K10D than his K20D. And the same tests using the Sigma 24-60 F2.8 @ 50mm was better on my K10 than his K20. So waht do you think.....send it back?? Cheers Del

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03-26-2008, 03:35 AM	#541
thomasjmpark Inactive Account Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Keswick, England Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,134	Really great shots Tbear The 1st is incredible, this lens is next on my shopping list and will be ordered soon. Thanks.

03-26-2008, 05:07 AM	#542
daacon Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Alberta,Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 20,914	Excellent ! Love the first and last shot. Your persistance paid off.

03-26-2008, 06:01 AM	#543
Mechan1k Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,891	Looks like the perserverence has paid off in returning faulty lens and finally come out with a good copy. It was well worth it by the looks of it ... this is what this lens should have performed like day one out of the box.

03-26-2008, 06:06 AM	#544
Tbear Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 269	Originally posted by NYpHoToGraphEr Great Photos. You have 3 DA* lenses? Wow you must have the cash... Heh, not quite. I returned 2 copies of this lens before getting a good one. I own only one.

03-26-2008, 06:08 AM	#545
Tbear Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 269	Originally posted by Mechan1k Looks like the perserverence has paid off in returning faulty lens and finally come out with a good copy. It was well worth it by the looks of it ... this is what this lens should have performed like day one out of the box. Very true, there still is no excuse for the lapse in QC with this lens. Had they taken their time with production and QC, Pentax would have hit a grand slam with this lens and won over many, many more customers.

03-26-2008, 06:10 AM	#546
Tbear Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 269	Originally posted by daacon Excellent ! Love the first and last shot. Your persistance paid off. Thank you, Dave. I was determined to get a good copy, because I knew that they existed. Hopefully, Pentax will learn a lesson from all this.

03-26-2008, 06:13 AM	#547
Tbear Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 269	Originally posted by thomasjmpark Really great shots Tbear The 1st is incredible, this lens is next on my shopping list and will be ordered soon. Thanks. Thank you, Tom. You won't be disappointed, assuming you get a good one. If not, just keep returning until you get a winner. Hopefully, your first will be the last

03-26-2008, 06:14 AM	#548
Tbear Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 269	Originally posted by song_hm Gorgeous shots TBear. Makes me want to give the 16-50 another shot. Thank you, Song. Worth giving it another shot. Just make sure vendor has good return policy.

03-26-2008, 06:17 AM	#549
Tbear Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 269	Originally posted by roentarre Yes, great shots all around. You just renewed my confidence in this lens and would definitely use it again for some trips down the track. The colour, IMHO, is way better than Da 14 Thanks, Roentarre I own the DA 14 as well and I can verify that your opinion is correct. The DA 14 is a very fine lens, but the contrast and color rendition is not as good as the DA* 16-50.

03-26-2008, 06:20 AM	#550
Tbear Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 269	Originally posted by vievetrick WOW does not say enough. So WOW WOW, Great shots hope third time is a charm for you. Thank you, Pat. Yes, indeed, the third time was very charmed! My experience was at times very frustrating, but in the end, it all payed off. Hopefully, Pentax will put priority on QC over production time in the future.

03-26-2008, 06:22 AM	#551
Tbear Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 269	Originally posted by Eaglerapids Breathtaking photos, very nicely done:-). Originally posted by gawan Superb shots Tbear! I can't wait till I get my 16-50 back from the repair! 16-50 really performs well, if you have a good copy! Thanks, Eagle and Gawan. When built with the proper care, this lens is sure to please.

03-26-2008, 07:49 AM	#552
Tuner571 Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Ohio Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,549	Great shots, I love the colors! Cory

03-26-2008, 08:01 AM	#553
Fritz Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Tillamook, OR Posts: 1,222	Wow, those look really great. It's nice to see there are some good copies out there. But I have to admit the negative press has probably scared me off from ever buying this lens. Maybe I'd get one that is pre-tested to be a good copy.

03-26-2008, 11:15 AM	#554
rparmar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,823	Originally posted by Fritz But I have to admit the negative press has probably scared me off from ever buying this lens. Me too. I struck it off my list of possible lenses. I must buy by mail and cannot afford to return lenses multiple times just to get one that's within spec. I think this is a scandal. Had I known of this before committing to Pentax I might have made a different system choice. Perhaps just as well that I did not!