Lens setup if you had not a single lens

Marc Sabatella · 01-16-2009, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by gkopeliadis

The thing I need is an 70-200, f2,8 because I shoot Indoors sports (basketball, water polo)

Just curious - do you really find 70-200 a more useful range than 50-135 for indoor sports? It seems to me that unless you're shooting from high up in the stands, 135 would be as long as you'd normally need, and having the 50-70 range would be quite useful at times.

**Lowell Goudge** · 01-16-2009, 11:42 AM

Originally posted by Marc Sabatella

Just curious - do you really find 70-200 a more useful range than 50-135 for indoor sports? It seems to me that unless you're shooting from high up in the stands, 135 would be as long as you'd normally need, and having the 50-70 range would be quite useful at times.

not sports, but same idea applies, I have shot a lot of dance and stage performance. In any large audiorium a 70-200 F2.8 is a great lens to have, BUT...... one time, I wound up in an auditorium that was much smaller and found the 70-200 was too long. I was wishing I had taken my 50mm F1.4. OOPS!

If you are in a small gym, the 50-135 would be a better selection, or even just a fast 50.

edit note, perhaps the best is to take a tamron 28-75? along with the 70-200 if that is how you built your kit.

Gooshin · 01-16-2009, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by gkopeliadis

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gkopeliadis · 01-19-2009, 02:32 AM

Originally posted by Marc Sabatella

Just curious - do you really find 70-200 a more useful range than 50-135 for indoor sports? It seems to me that unless you're shooting from high up in the stands, 135 would be as long as you'd normally need, and having the 50-70 range would be quite useful at times.

I like to shoot player's face and body expresions. In the water polo case the subject is smaller, it's head and shoulders instead of the whole body. So statisticaly I use the 70 - 200mm range way more than shorter focal lengths. For basketball and volleyball what you say is true more or less. But I cann't afford both lenses right now.
When I shoot football I borrow my friend's DA 50-200 lens

axl · 01-19-2009, 01:53 PM

I can't vote, you don't have my variant:
Ultrawide zoom, normal - short tele primes, long zoom, ultra long prime:
like: 10-20, 40/2.8, 50/1.7, 105/2.8, 70-300 and 400/5.6
oh, and I hope 28/2.8 is coming soon (hopefully on wednesday

) then I'm pretty much set up....

Noisychip · 01-19-2009, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by axl

I can't vote, you don't have my variant:
Ultrawide zoom, normal - short tele primes, long zoom, ultra long prime:
like: 10-20, 40/2.8, 50/1.7, 105/2.8, 70-300 and 400/5.6
oh, and I hope 28/2.8 is coming soon (hopefully on wednesday

) then I'm pretty much set up....

Interesting setup. Which of these lenses are you using for portraits?

By the way, what's happening on wednesday? Any announcement I haven't heard of?

axl · 01-20-2009, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by Noisychip

Interesting setup. Which of these lenses are you using for portraits?

By the way, what's happening on wednesday? Any announcement I haven't heard of?

For portraits I use 40 - all body, 50 - upperbody or shoulders, 105 - shoulders or face only.
On wednesday, I was supposed to go pick up F28/2.8 which was held under the counter for me, but they sold it

somebody maybe offered more money....
OMG... I was looking for AF 28 from Pentax for a while, and when one was finaly in my reach I didn't get day off when I needed one!!! Right now I'm soooo p!??ed about it.
Oh, well maybe next time...
BR

PS: idaly I'd like to get DA70/2.4 ltd for portraits, but that isn't going to happen anytime soon... unless crazy deal comes around

**Kerrowdown** · 01-20-2009, 05:35 PM

Give me fast primes and I'll photograph the world.

**robbiec** · 11-28-2009, 09:12 AM

On the cheap? DA16-45, FA50, DA55-300. I use this when I go on holidays and I would not be massively worried about stuff getting damaged or stolen. Nice range as well.
Working towards? (i.e. I will have evenually but can't afford just yet :-)) DA12-24, FA31, FA43, FA77, DA*200 or perhaps a DA* 60-250, have 2 out of the 5, 31 is next!

a a i b · 11-28-2009, 10:07 AM

DA15, FA31, DA55 or FA77

IS050 · 11-28-2009, 01:13 PM

My travel bag for general shooting has these lenses in it. It covers ultrawide, close-ups and long tele zoom.

Pentax 10-17mm fisheye
Tamron adaptall2 35-80mm
Tamron adaptall2 80-210mm

David

Oggy · 11-28-2009, 03:33 PM

I've got most of the lenses I initially wanted as listed below. The only one missing from my original list is an ultrawide zoom, probably the DA 12-24, but I have found that I never shoot that wide.

What I have found is that having got the DFA 100 which is stunningly sharp, I am now looking for primes, not to replace my zooms, but to use in specific situations. I already have a FA50 1.4 on order.

bdery · 11-28-2009, 08:26 PM

My dream lineup is made up of (what I own in parenthesis):

A fast wide/normal zoom (Sigma 17-70)
A decent tele zoom (FA 100-300, not the best)
A macro prime (FA 50)
A low-light prime (F 50 f1,7)
A short tele prime (M 150 f3,5)

I could add a wide prime (like the DA 21 I'm lusting over) to avoid taking the zoom in some situations. but all in all I love my lineup. I also lust after the 50-135 but see no real point in getting it, sadly.

MikePerham · 11-29-2009, 10:20 AM

Limited to only 3 lenses, my choice is not in your selection. They would be:

DA 12-24
DA* 16-50 and
DA* 50-135

to expand on this I would add the DA* 300 and a macro lens, and in fact that is my full outfit. I also have a "light" travel outfit made up of the DA15 and 35 macro limted and FA 77 limited.

freewheeler · 11-29-2009, 10:48 AM

DA16-45; K45-125; m80-200 for flexibility.
50-200 for capturing moving objects.
Fa 35 for shallow DOF
A 50 1.7 for portrait.
M 100/4.0 for close up.
K 135/2.5 for isolation/compression.

View Poll Results: Which of the setups would you consider the most practical for general shooting?
Ultrawide Zoom + Midrange Zoom + long Telephoto Zoom (like 12-24 ; 24-70 ; 70-300)	34	13.13%
Standard Zoom + short Tele Zoom + long Tele Zoom (Like 16-50 + 50-135 + 70-300 or longer)	37	14.29%
Superzoom + some Primes (Like 18-250 + 50/1.4 + 100 Macro)	23	8.88%
Kit Zooms + some Primes (Like 18-55 + 55-300 + 50 + 100 Macro)	26	10.04%
Shorter Primes + long Telephoto Zoom (like 21 + 35 + 50 + 100 + 70-300)	36	13.90%
Shorter Primes + Short Telephoto Zoom + TC (like 21 + 35 + 50-135 + 1.4x TC)	16	6.18%
Standard Zoom + Telephoto Primes (Like 17-70 + 100 + 300)	13	5.02%
Both Zooms and primes all over the focal range	45	17.37%
What is a zoom ...?	29	11.20%
Voters: 259. You may not vote on this poll

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01-16-2009, 11:37 AM	#31
Marc Sabatella Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Denver, CO Photos: Gallery Posts: 10,685	Originally posted by gkopeliadis The thing I need is an 70-200, f2,8 because I shoot Indoors sports (basketball, water polo) Just curious - do you really find 70-200 a more useful range than 50-135 for indoor sports? It seems to me that unless you're shooting from high up in the stands, 135 would be as long as you'd normally need, and having the 50-70 range would be quite useful at times.

01-16-2009, 11:42 AM	#32
Lowell Goudge Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,886	Originally posted by Marc Sabatella Just curious - do you really find 70-200 a more useful range than 50-135 for indoor sports? It seems to me that unless you're shooting from high up in the stands, 135 would be as long as you'd normally need, and having the 50-70 range would be quite useful at times. not sports, but same idea applies, I have shot a lot of dance and stage performance. In any large audiorium a 70-200 F2.8 is a great lens to have, BUT...... one time, I wound up in an auditorium that was much smaller and found the 70-200 was too long. I was wishing I had taken my 50mm F1.4. OOPS! If you are in a small gym, the 50-135 would be a better selection, or even just a fast 50. edit note, perhaps the best is to take a tamron 28-75? along with the 70-200 if that is how you built your kit.

01-16-2009, 11:43 AM	#33
Gooshin Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, the one in Canada. Posts: 5,610	Originally posted by gkopeliadis Why? They are so much fun I like them and they help me... PentaxForums.com - Search Forums

01-19-2009, 02:32 AM	#34
gkopeliadis Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: ATHENS, GREECE Posts: 308	Originally posted by Marc Sabatella Just curious - do you really find 70-200 a more useful range than 50-135 for indoor sports? It seems to me that unless you're shooting from high up in the stands, 135 would be as long as you'd normally need, and having the 50-70 range would be quite useful at times. I like to shoot player's face and body expresions. In the water polo case the subject is smaller, it's head and shoulders instead of the whole body. So statisticaly I use the 70 - 200mm range way more than shorter focal lengths. For basketball and volleyball what you say is true more or less. But I cann't afford both lenses right now. When I shoot football I borrow my friend's DA 50-200 lens

01-19-2009, 01:53 PM	#35
axl Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nove Zamky, Slovakia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,183	I can't vote, you don't have my variant: Ultrawide zoom, normal - short tele primes, long zoom, ultra long prime: like: 10-20, 40/2.8, 50/1.7, 105/2.8, 70-300 and 400/5.6 oh, and I hope 28/2.8 is coming soon (hopefully on wednesday ) then I'm pretty much set up....

01-19-2009, 01:58 PM	#36
Noisychip Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 282 Original Poster	Originally posted by axl I can't vote, you don't have my variant: Ultrawide zoom, normal - short tele primes, long zoom, ultra long prime: like: 10-20, 40/2.8, 50/1.7, 105/2.8, 70-300 and 400/5.6 oh, and I hope 28/2.8 is coming soon (hopefully on wednesday ) then I'm pretty much set up.... Interesting setup. Which of these lenses are you using for portraits? By the way, what's happening on wednesday? Any announcement I haven't heard of?

01-20-2009, 01:47 PM	#37
axl Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nove Zamky, Slovakia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,183	Originally posted by Noisychip Interesting setup. Which of these lenses are you using for portraits? By the way, what's happening on wednesday? Any announcement I haven't heard of? For portraits I use 40 - all body, 50 - upperbody or shoulders, 105 - shoulders or face only. On wednesday, I was supposed to go pick up F28/2.8 which was held under the counter for me, but they sold it somebody maybe offered more money.... OMG... I was looking for AF 28 from Pentax for a while, and when one was finaly in my reach I didn't get day off when I needed one!!! Right now I'm soooo p!??ed about it. Oh, well maybe next time... BR PS: idaly I'd like to get DA70/2.4 ltd for portraits, but that isn't going to happen anytime soon... unless crazy deal comes around

01-20-2009, 05:35 PM	#38
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,816	Give me fast primes and I'll photograph the world.

11-28-2009, 09:12 AM	#39
robbiec Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cork Photos: Albums Posts: 1,882	On the cheap? DA16-45, FA50, DA55-300. I use this when I go on holidays and I would not be massively worried about stuff getting damaged or stolen. Nice range as well. Working towards? (i.e. I will have evenually but can't afford just yet :-)) DA12-24, FA31, FA43, FA77, DA200 or perhaps a DA 60-250, have 2 out of the 5, 31 is next!

11-28-2009, 10:07 AM	#40
a a i b Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brooklyn Photos: Gallery Posts: 315	DA15, FA31, DA55 or FA77

11-28-2009, 01:13 PM	#41
IS050 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Stumptown Photos: Gallery Posts: 434	My travel bag for general shooting has these lenses in it. It covers ultrawide, close-ups and long tele zoom. Pentax 10-17mm fisheye Tamron adaptall2 35-80mm Tamron adaptall2 80-210mm David

11-28-2009, 03:33 PM	#42
Oggy Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: West Sussex UK Posts: 235	I've got most of the lenses I initially wanted as listed below. The only one missing from my original list is an ultrawide zoom, probably the DA 12-24, but I have found that I never shoot that wide. What I have found is that having got the DFA 100 which is stunningly sharp, I am now looking for primes, not to replace my zooms, but to use in specific situations. I already have a FA50 1.4 on order.

11-28-2009, 08:26 PM	#43
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,357	My dream lineup is made up of (what I own in parenthesis): A fast wide/normal zoom (Sigma 17-70) A decent tele zoom (FA 100-300, not the best) A macro prime (FA 50) A low-light prime (F 50 f1,7) A short tele prime (M 150 f3,5) I could add a wide prime (like the DA 21 I'm lusting over) to avoid taking the zoom in some situations. but all in all I love my lineup. I also lust after the 50-135 but see no real point in getting it, sadly.

11-29-2009, 10:20 AM	#44
MikePerham Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Prince George, BC Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 642	Limited to only 3 lenses, my choice is not in your selection. They would be: DA 12-24 DA* 16-50 and DA* 50-135 to expand on this I would add the DA* 300 and a macro lens, and in fact that is my full outfit. I also have a "light" travel outfit made up of the DA15 and 35 macro limted and FA 77 limited.

11-29-2009, 10:48 AM	#45
freewheeler Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: amsterdam Posts: 130	DA16-45; K45-125; m80-200 for flexibility. 50-200 for capturing moving objects. Fa 35 for shallow DOF A 50 1.7 for portrait. M 100/4.0 for close up. K 135/2.5 for isolation/compression.