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01-19-2009, 08:27 PM   #1
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Comparable lens to pentax 77ltd.

After checking some of the photos from the 77ltd. I love the sharpness and the color. I guess it's a personal taste. I always want to get one, but the price is a bit expensive. Is there any lens that gives the similar sharpness and color as the 77ltd, But not over $200-$250 price range. I use it for portrait and landscape, got my self a few 50mm, but always want to get something like the 77ltd. I saw some pictures from the Tamron 28-75mm f2.8, the color and sharpness is pretty good. Any good recommendation?


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the FA50mm f1.4 will give similar depth of field wide open I guess...


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I got the 50mm F f1.7. It's great, but it doesn't have the sharpness as the 77ltd.
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There is nothing that quite has the distinctive "look" of the 77. That said, in the $200 range the FA 50/1.4 is your best bet -- it is still a great lens.

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have a look at the Jupiter 9

You might be able to find on in the $125-150 range.

her is a link to a thread.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/42795-my-jupit...herman999.html
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For $200-$250 you're almost asking the impossible, but perhaps the old 85mm f2? I think it's an M lens. Not sure how much these go for used...
I rarely shoot the 77mm at less than 2.4 anyway... not just cause it's sharper at f2.4 and above, but because the depth of field is so narrow, you're gonna get a low hit rate with models... each to there own.

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Regarding the Jupiter-9 85/2 and the 77 ltd:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/21703-lens-war...piter-9-a.html
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(It was this thread that got me started down the J-9 trail...)

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Here is a recent photo taken with my Jupiter-9.


LZOS Jupiter-9 85/2 @f/5.6, Kodak Ektar 100

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Jupiter-9 ($100 - $180 from ebay store or seller) :



M 85 f/2 ($180 - $300 depending on condition - Adorama has one now for $200) :






The Jupiter-9 has very beautiful rendering, if somewhat strange bokeh, and is a
bit soft wide-open. It's an m42 lens, so you'll need an adapter.

The M 85 f/2 is just plain great, sharp even wide-open.

For 200-250, you'll have to look at MF.



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The FA 50 has flares badly and is soft wide open, hardly comparable to the limited IMHO. It certainly is a good lens for its price though.
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QuoteOriginally posted by winglik Quote
After checking some of the photos from the 77ltd. I love the sharpness and the color. I guess it's a personal taste. I always want to get one, but the price is a bit expensive. Is there any lens that gives the similar sharpness and color as the 77ltd, But not over $200-$250 price range. I use it for portrait and landscape, got my self a few 50mm, but always want to get something like the 77ltd. I saw some pictures from the Tamron 28-75mm f2.8, the color and sharpness is pretty good. Any good recommendation?
Actually, I think your own suggestion of the Tamron 28-75 is a good one. You can probably find one for around $250 (maybe a little more, but I paid about that) and the sharpness and rendering quality is great, especially for the price.

It's slower and bigger, but has the advantage (over some of the other recommendations here) of autofocus (and of course a zoom range). If you're comfortable with manual focus though, the 85's suggested here will get you as close as you can get.
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QuoteOriginally posted by winglik Quote
After checking some of the photos from the 77ltd. I love the sharpness and the color. I guess it's a personal taste. I always want to get one, but the price is a bit expensive. Is there any lens that gives the similar sharpness and color as the 77ltd, But not over $200-$250 price range. I use it for portrait and landscape, got my self a few 50mm, but always want to get something like the 77ltd. I saw some pictures from the Tamron 28-75mm f2.8, the color and sharpness is pretty good. Any good recommendation?
For me the solution is simple: by al means get the 77 Ltd! You don't want a second rate or a 'wannabe' lens, no... You want the full monty! I'd like to suggest you to put the $250 in your pocket and save a little more to be able to get the lens you really want.

Sometimes it's just that simple
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You'd have to go either of the lenses mention by Steve or Jay.

I actually purchased my Super Takumar 85mm f/1.9 off Jay .... and it's a superb lens indeed. I love it ... it can be sharp ... but still have that dreamy/buttery bokeh as well.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mechan1k Quote
You'd have to go either of the lenses mention by Steve or Jay.

I actually purchased my Super Takumar 85mm f/1.9 off Jay .... and it's a superb lens indeed. I love it ... it can be sharp ... but still have that dreamy/buttery bokeh as well.

Yes, can't forget the Super Tak 85's - S-M-C and Super Tak, f/1.8 and f/1.9,
although you'd be lucky to find one of those for under $220 now, unless it's in
bad shape.

When it comes to tactile feedback, there's no comparison between the Tak 85's
and the M 85 f/2 or J-9 - the Taks are much smoother, and a bit easier to focus
because of that. Joy to use, but rare and getting rarer (although I'm not seeing
many M 85 f/2s these days either.)

Not sure about the J-9 supply, but you don't see them appear in our marketplace
very often.

But the suggestion to just save your pennies and get a 77ltd later is worth
considering.



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QuoteOriginally posted by winglik Quote
After checking some of the photos from the 77ltd. I love the sharpness and the color. I guess it's a personal taste. I always want to get one, but the price is a bit expensive. Is there any lens that gives the similar sharpness and color as the 77ltd, But not over $200-$250 price range. I use it for portrait and landscape, got my self a few 50mm, but always want to get something like the 77ltd. I saw some pictures from the Tamron 28-75mm f2.8, the color and sharpness is pretty good. Any good recommendation?
Good lenses cost good money. Get used to it.
Expensive lenses are expensive for a reason, they are better.
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