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12-07-2008, 09:54 PM   #91
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Just checked it now...and its down to 8%....

12-08-2008, 07:18 AM   #92
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First spin 77mm limited w/ ambient light

Had a Christmas party at my bosses home. I'm really not happy with what I ended up with but its no fault of camera and lens. It was just to crowded and I didn't want to use the flash. I took my Tamron 28-75 and the 77 limited but only used the 77. Just to much going on to really set up properly.
Anyway, here are some results. Not much PP except for resize. Most are crop also for composition.

All were shot f/1.8 ISO 400
1/180 sec

1/180 sec

1/20 sec

1/250 sec

1/45 sec


This is a remarkable woman. She has done so much in the way of helping people turn their lives around. Because of the low shutter speed her hands are blurred. Wish more would have came out better. But like I said, I cann't blame the camera and lens.

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Hey, good job there. I like number 4 best, number 1 second best. I find the 77mm a wonderful lens for indoor shooting.
12-08-2008, 11:16 AM   #94
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Don't beat yourself up! I don't think they're bad at all. Improvable? yes! But that happens to all of us and it's what keeps us going, right? Plus, there's always a learning curve with any new camera or lens.

Just tell your boss that he (she?) needs to organise another Christmas dinner for you to keep practicing

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look at #4's OOF circular highlights, i love em
12-08-2008, 01:50 PM   #96
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My fave is number 4 also

I love the OOF area in that shot... I cant read any of the exif and would love to know the aperture on these shots. Just to get a sense of whent that bokeh starts talking to me. I like the rings of light in that oof area, but I thought I had read that the 77ltd did not have the hard ring bokeh on light sources. Still very cool looking.

Someday this lens will be mine, I hope.
12-08-2008, 06:27 PM   #97
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The color saturation is outrageous; even given some of the later subjects don't seem very pleased @ being your model...
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I added info to the shots. Most were fairly healthy crops.

I'm not really unhappy about how they turned out. As a matter of fact I am actually happy considering the circumstances. The lens preformed very well. I just wish I could have came away with more because she hasn't done this for quite a few years and I don't know when she will do a repeat.

Thanks dkittle, I do believe I am going to love this for indoor.

Miserere, we will have to let her know how much we loved the dinner so she will do again next year. She has an absolutely beautiful waterfront home on the Puget Sound.

I see a lot of folk liked #4. Don't mind Bill, he's harmless

m8o, the color is strictly the camera and lens. No PP again

I see I am going to really enjoy this lens. I thought long on hard before I sold the Takumar 85 1.8 to get this. It was a wouderful lens but for me right now I think the 77 just makes life much easier.

soccerjoe5, thank you. I am undecided. Love/hate thing.

Igilligan, I only paid $560 new shipped from Henry's. Sweet deal, keep your eyes open.

About the cirular highlights. I can't remember what type of lighting they came from. They are strong. A litte PF in #3 &4 also around the candles.

Thanks again for the comments all.

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I like high ISO with K20D and 77mm limited

I sold my 31mm limited way early as I totally forgot a party last Saturday in a pitched dark environment where the 31mm would shine in f/1.8 and the wider view. I might have picked the wrong lens in the event as it was too long for getting the view to make a shot.

The K20D in JPG is not bad at all, I honestly don't remember if my K10D can handle well for ISO 800 and ISO 1600. Overall, my impressions for noise handling are quite positive and I am hopeful that the next version will even be better. And I think if I manage to shoot in RAW, the results will even be better.
  • AF seems much less hunting for me in the dark environment. I am surprised that my 77mm doesn't hunt in the shadows.
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  • Pictures are very good in ISO 800, better than K10D but ISO 400 are indistinguishable between the two for me. I would say I have more confidence with ISO 1600 with the K20D over K10D. A definite confidence with ISO 800 in K20D over K10D. In ISO 400, I see less a difference if at all between the two in JPG settings.
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  • I am quite happy with the K20D performance in the dark. K20D/K10D still need to catch up on noise in general. But I think K20D is in the right direction for needed improvement in noise handling.
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  • I am a bit disappointed with the use of flash as I don't yet have a diffuser and my sweetie has a great percentage of Lazy Eyes with the PTTL flash
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  • Confidence in low light is boosted for me with K20D in cleaner shots and much less focus hunting.


Pentax FA 77mm f/1.8
Insanely Good -- Hin's words

#1
1/80 sec, f/1.8, 77mm, iso 800, 0 Ev, hand-held, K20D




#2
1/80 sec, f/1.8, 77mm, iso 3200, 0 Ev, hand-held, K20D




#3
1/80 sec, f/1.8, 77mm, iso 800, 0 Ev, hand-held, K20D




#4
1/200 sec, f/2.2, 77mm, iso 400, 0 Ev, hand-held, K20D




#5
1/80 sec, f/1.8, 77mm, iso 400, 0 Ev, hand-held, K20D




#6
1/100 sec, f/2.2, 77mm, iso 200, 0 Ev, hand-held, K20D



Pentax FA 77mm f/1.8
Insanely Good -- Hin's words

More Test Shots


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Some great shots in here. Thanks for sharing
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QuoteOriginally posted by vievetrick Quote
Some great shots in here. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for the kind words. I learned from some discussions that high ISO don't differ that much between K10D and K20D. In my causal type of shooting, I find K20D improved over K10D in high ISO shooting. I would categorize it not as spectacular but really good enough to make me confident in going to iso 1600 when the ambient light requires it. The AF hunting is found much less in K20D. I have used K10D/K100D with FA 50 f/1.4 in similar lighting and the focus hunting has pushed me into MF on all AF lens. But in this outing with K20D, I don't have ONE single shot that hunts, I am totally impressed with the improvement either on K20D or my Handsome Boy FA 77mm f/1.8 limited. Maybe a good combination on both with K20D and my Handsome Boy 77mm limited.

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And in the event, I have my AF540 with me the whole time. Whenever I need to shoot portraits, I go to the flash to make the shot instead of agonizing over the result. I am yet to learn to use flash in a better way. The ceiling is at least 30 to 50 feet as in a convention and I ran into a professional photographer with a simple cut out of crafty paper and folded like a cast to reflect the flash as a bounce and a diffuser. I saw it before in DIY kind of blog post. I have unsettled experience with lazy eyes in using PTTL.


#7
with the flash and lazy eyes effect




#8
when I have repeated shots and signal for 1,2,3 for the shot




#9



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Nice series. A little strong Ca in the first few shots but the contrast and colour are certainly strong.

Great series of images here.

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I like high ISO with K20D and 77mm limited

I think I would like that, too.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Ratmagiclady Quote
I like high ISO with K20D and 77mm limited

I think I would like that, too.
The lens is expensive but I find it justified as my best portraits lens. I still keep my Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 zoom as I see the zoom more flexible for events. The 77mm is my best lens for portraits and it is a great low lighting lens in the events. Sharpness, bokeh, color are top-notch on the 77mm limited. Focus hunting in the dark is absent for me with this lens in K20D.

QuoteOriginally posted by roentarre Quote
Nice series. A little strong Ca in the first few shots but the contrast and colour are certainly strong.

Great series of images here.

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Thanks for the comments. I am well pleased to see your photos gallery with 77mm limited, I will go back and re-visit each for the inspiration. On my photos in the party, there are perhaps some PF/CA but the lighting from the party changes around the center in pink, blue and purple and I treat the CA as part of the lighting I use all default settings and no pp and I will revisit the settings on saturation and contrast. Thanks for the valuable comments.

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