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02-09-2009, 11:17 AM   #31
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QuoteOriginally posted by 68wSteve Quote
So i know this might be a vague question, but thought i would put this out. I find myself i guess a little unhappy with my current setup:

Pentax SMC DA 10-17mm 3.5/4.5f Fisheye
Pentax SMC FA 50mm 1.4f
Tamron 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6
Sigma 70-300mm 1:4-5.6 APO DG

Really i guess only unhappy with the Tamron and Sigma Lenses, but could sell or trade the FA 50MM as well. My question is what would be your ideal setup with 4-5 lenses in the bag, that would cover range from i guess 10-300. Im thinking about selling the Pentax 50mm, Tamron and Sigma. One of the lenses im looking to get is the DA * 50-135 lense.

Give me some ideas as im looking to get aback that requires less lense changing, but has optimal performance in lenes. Could go higher on the range, like 500mm but my only option, might be to spring for the 50-500 bigma, but i know that pretty much requires atleast monopod. Anybody with decent pictures being handheld the bigma?

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Steve
clarification needed.

When you discuss a "dream setup" are we to assume that this shoud be capable of doing everything. I.e. macro? I assumed yes, wild life? I assumed yes, travel? I assumed yes, fashion? I didn't cover this because this is where fast primes come in etc.....

also, is this a setup with or without a budget?

02-09-2009, 11:20 AM   #32
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best scenario 4 me:

tokina 11-16mm f2.8 (if it ever is produced for Pentax)
DA*16-50/f2.8
DA*50-135/f2.8
DA*200/f2.8
FA*300/f2.8
02-09-2009, 11:26 AM   #33
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DA 12-24 f/4
FA 35 f/2 <--> FA 31 f/1.8 ltd
DA 50-135 f/2.8
FA 77ltd
FA* 300mm f2.8 <- want this but can't afford it.. so using SMC 400/5.6
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For me, the perfect 4-5 lens goes like this:

DA 12-24 F/4 (for landscape)
DA 35 F/2,8 macro Limited (normal and macro, that is if you don't do a lot of macro photo)
FA 50 F/1,4 (for portrait)
DA* 50-135 F/2,8 (indoor and outdoor action)
DA* 300 F/4 (for wildlife and sports)
DA TC 1,4 (when it comes out)

Of cours, if Pentax ever produce a 11-16, I would take it instead of the 12-24. However, you would have a huge gap between 16 and 35. Then, you might want to consider a DA21.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Lowell Goudge Quote
You need to have a kit, when starting out in the planning which can go from 10-12mm at the wide end, to at least 200mm at the long end, AND much of this should be at F2.8.
Not to be argumentative, but why does everyone need 10-12mm on the wide end? I can understand if that is a personal preference and how that might be your dream setup, but I don't think it is necessarily a universal need or desire. I can see your point though if you're trying to create a "do everything" setup (and hence your clarification question?).
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Hmm. If I'm going light aka "limited" I'd be using a 15-21-35-70.

If I know I'll be needing the speed (zoom), versatility, and weathersealing of the DA* I'd LOVE to have the 11-16 > 16-50 > 60-250
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QuoteOriginally posted by nostatic Quote
Not to be argumentative, but why does everyone need 10-12mm on the wide end? I can understand if that is a personal preference and how that might be your dream setup, but I don't think it is necessarily a universal need or desire. I can see your point though if you're trying to create a "do everything" setup (and hence your clarification question?).
I agree. My widest lens goes to 16mm and most often that is too wide. I've never been left yearning for a wider lens. Maybe it's because I live in Indiana where the only wide open expanses are corn fields, but I don't foresee actually needing anything wider even in more landscape friendly settings.
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QuoteOriginally posted by nostatic Quote
Not to be argumentative, but why does everyone need 10-12mm on the wide end? I can understand if that is a personal preference and how that might be your dream setup, but I don't think it is necessarily a universal need or desire. I can see your point though if you're trying to create a "do everything" setup (and hence your clarification question?).
I guess I made a WAG and assumed that this was an "Ideal" kit for universal / general photography with only 4-5 lenses. Since I did not want to discriminate landscape, city scape archetectural etc, I put the 10mm bottom end. Same reason I put to 400 at top end for wildlife.

The reason I go down to 10mm is that in the context of ASP-C sensors, 16mm is not really all that wide.

I shot film for years, and had a 24mm F2.5 lens. I alwasy felt it was not wide enough, yet 16mm on the ASP-C sensor is the same FOV.

Just go to an old city and try to take travel photos, showing buildings, etc. It is just not possible with a 16mm lens. you can't get back far enough.

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Wait a minute. You have the DA*55? I think you're the first! Uhhh... PICS?!

QuoteOriginally posted by jedperkins Quote
I am a prime lens shooter, own the K20D, and am waiting for delivery of a new K-m. As a prime lens shooter it is difficult for me to cover all my needs with just 4 or 5 primes, so I have included zooms that either own or have owned, but which I find I generally do not use much, preferring instead my primes. I found as I was writing this post that one list would not suit all my desires, so I am cheating and including 3 lists. I own the lenses in bold text):

1). To cover the full range from wide to super telephoto, I think would choose the following Pentax lenses:
12-24mm (don't use it much, will sell when the 15mm DA* is available)
31mm ltd (for a high quality APS-C normal lens and low light)
100mm macro and for portraits (had it, sold it)
50-135mm DA* (had it, sold it)
300mm F* or 300mm DA*

2). For airline travel on holidays, my list includes the following Pentax lenses
17-70mm (planning to buy this before my trip to Napa in April
31mm ltd for low light
35mm ltd macro (not sure if I'll bring this)
55mm f/1.4 DA* for low light and portrait (I am quickly falling in love with this lens)
135mm FA for a moderate telephoto

3). My current list of favorite, most used lenses that I own
21mm ltd for hiking and landscapes
31mm ltd for a great APS-C normal and low light lens
40mm ltd for a really light weight walk around with my new K-m
55mm f/1.4 DA* - again, my new favorite toy for portraits
135mm FA for action photos of my dogs
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My present gear is in my signature. My better than walk around kit would use some of those lenses and replace others.
DA 12-24 - Gorgeous!
DA* 16-50 - no complaints at all
DA* 50-135 - my personal rave review
M 100/4 Macro - rather have FA (NOT D-FA) 100/2.8 macro
M 400/5.6 - rather have the DA* 300/4.

You mileage may vary, as they say.
02-09-2009, 05:20 PM   #41
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My dream setup:

DA12-24
FA*28-70/2.8
FA*80-200/2.8
FA 31 Limited
A100/2.8 macro

I guess my dream already come true since I've got all of the above
02-09-2009, 06:11 PM   #42
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My dream setup:

Out for the day or days when I have my backpack
DA* 16-50mm (working copy!) But I could stay with my DA 17-70mm
DA* 50-135mm
DA* 300mm

For quick walkaround and/or special occasions were silence is golden:
DA* 30mm (if it ever comes out)
DA* 55mm

The only thing missing would be my trusty DA 35mm ltd especially because of it's macro capability.

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02-09-2009, 08:55 PM   #43
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I am almost there

Check my signature. I am almost there in terms of my dream set up.

I plan to replace my F 70-210mm in future, which is by the way a very good lens, with a tele prime. I am not sure whether it would be 200 or 300mm. I need suggestions from tele shooters.
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It really depends on what I would want to do with the photo gear, but I'd like these lenses for general purpose (landscape, portraits, flowers, Bokeh !). Also, it would be relatively light.

DA 21
FA 31 Ltd
Voigtlander Nokton 58/1.4
FA 77 Ltd

Yes, I like primes !

For macrophotography, I would add the Voigtlander SL 125/2.5 APO Lanthar.

For birding/wildlife, I really like my DA* 300, but my dream lens would be the FA* 600/4 or FA* 250-600/5.6.

I'd also really like to have the DA* 50-135/2.8 !

David
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The 77ltd needs to be your low-light portrait dream glass!





Snapped those quickly today at f/2 - there really just isn't another medium
telephoto with AF that gives you that rendering at that aperture aside from the
FA 85 1.4.

I bet the DA* 55 might match the 77, though.
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