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02-15-2009, 06:29 PM   #1
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Da*200/f2.8

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I bought DA*16-50 in November and love it. It is a great lens and it influenced me to decide to clean up my photo gear bag and get more "star" lens. I sold DA16-45, FA 50/1.4, Tamron 70-300 and Tamron 28-75/F2.8. All were great lens, with exception of 50mm. Somehow I never fell in love with it.
After reading forum members' rave reviews on DA*200 and DA*300, I went yesterday to my local photo store (Lens and Shutters in Vancouver) and tried both lens. Both are gorgeous lens, but I liked DA*200 more. It is smaller, lighter and focuses faster than 300. I took a few shots of a sales guy several feet away with the lens set at F2.8 (1/50sec) and the sharpness was amazing. The 300 was hunting for few seconds before it focused on a far wall in the store. I have an old Tamron 1.4x teleconverter which happens to have two contacts matching the SDM contacts in "star" lenses so they retain their SDM capabilites. I suppose I can use it if I need to go longer than 200mm.
I also, like many people here, like the 50-135mm lens and here is my dilemma - which one should I buy first, the 200 or 50-135? I have to admit that I strongly dislike swapping lenses and prefer zooms, but I do like this 200mm lens.
I also have an old but beautifully built all-metal Kiron 105mm/F2.8 1:1 Macro that can fill in the gap between my 16-50 and the 200, if I decide to buy it. I will also buy the DA*55/F1.4 if it is ever become available in Canada.
I am seeking the collective wisdom of this esteemed forum.
Which line is better:
1) 16-50, 55, 105 and 50-135 or
2) 16-50, 55, 105 and 200?

I categorize myself as nature/landscape and citiscape/travel photographer.

Thank you,

02-15-2009, 07:25 PM   #2
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For cityscape and travel the 50-135 would be a great supplement to the 16-50.
So my suggestion is the 50-135 - then add the 200 later for special purposes.
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with generic photographic interests (i.e. your not a wedding photographer/landscape photographer/sports photographer or whatever) the order in which I would purchase DA* lenses if I were starting fresh would be:

1. 16-50
2. 50-135
3. 300/4
4. 55/1.4
5. 200/2.8

Or course I would want them all - all at once but if I had to budget these purchases over an extended period this is how I would do it. 60-250 has never had any appeal to me so even when it is finally released it would not land in my list. The 30mm is of interest to me but its a ways off being released as far as I can tell.

The 200 is an awesome lens (I tried it for a bit) but I almost never have a need for that focal length so I haven't picked it up. I've been considering it for weddings so I can shoot tight portrait shots from a significant distance but I can't think of where else I would really use it. It would probably be good for indoor sports but that is not something I ever do and I think the 50-135 would suffice.
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Hi,
If you're talking general interests, I'd go for 50-135. Later you might consider 300 or a zoom, e.g. Sigma 100-300.
Just my $0.02
Good luck with whatever you choose.

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Buy the 50-135 and hold off on buying the 55.That way you can throw in a few hundred and pick up the 200.
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Da*200/f2.8

Well, the Pentax tribe has spoken and unanimously voted for 50-135. Thank you all for your help. Now I know what to do.
Cheers,
02-16-2009, 05:18 AM   #7
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QuoteOriginally posted by TTQ225 Quote
I have an old Tamron 1.4x teleconverter which happens to have two contacts matching the SDM contacts in "star" lenses so they retain their SDM capabilites. I suppose I can use it if I need to go longer than 200mm.
I also, like many people here, like the 50-135mm lens and here is my dilemma - which one should I buy first, the 200 or 50-135? I have to admit that I strongly dislike swapping lenses and prefer zooms, but I do like this 200mm lens.
I also have an old but beautifully built all-metal Kiron 105mm/F2.8 1:1 Macro that can fill in the gap between my 16-50 and the 200, if I decide to buy it. I will also buy the DA*55/F1.4 if it is ever become available in Canada.
I am seeking the collective wisdom of this esteemed forum.
Which line is better:
1) 16-50, 55, 105 and 50-135 or
2) 16-50, 55, 105 and 200?

I categorize myself as nature/landscape and citiscape/travel photographer.

Thank you,
I would go for the 2nd proposed line up (16-50, 55, 105 and 200) If you have that SDM capable TC, your DA*200mm will be turned into a very capable 300mm equivalent to 430mm in film term. What a waste that you do not use the TC ?
Something about the TC. As Tamron/Kenko was making TC back 10 yrs ago, they (OEM) had those power contacts mainly because of Nikon/Canon set up. For Pentax that was useless. At long last Pentax has caught up in SDM.
I have more the less the same set up

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QuoteOriginally posted by Ole Quote
For cityscape and travel the 50-135 would be a great supplement to the 16-50.
So my suggestion is the 50-135 - then add the 200 later for special purposes.
X2, the 200mm ain't the best second lens on the list. A 50-135 is more pratical and you're likely to take more photos with it (well, if your main interest is not solely wildlife).

Check out your shooting habits to decide what suits.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/general-pentax-photography/51166-exif-file-analyse-tool.html

Anyhow, whatever you decide, enjoy your new lens and don't forget to share some shots and experience with us.

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QuoteOriginally posted by danielchtong Quote
Something about the TC. As Tamron/Kenko was making TC back 10 yrs ago, they (OEM) had those power contacts mainly because of Nikon/Canon set up. For Pentax that was useless. At long last Pentax has caught up in SDM.
Thank you for your advice, Daniel. With respect to Tamron TC, I am almost sure you are wrong. Tamron put these two contacts to enable use of Pentax power zooms such as FA 28-80, 28-105 and 70-200.
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I would go by the principle, if you need tele, most of the time what you have is too short :-) Seriously, I find the DA* 200 quite versatile. I have had a couple of photowalks with that lens on the main body and a 35 or 14 on the other. Where the DA* 300 is a special purpose lens I find the DA* 200 versatile (assuming you have something wide as well).

Here is an example of DA*200 from last saturday:


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QuoteOriginally posted by TTQ225 Quote
Thank you for your advice, Daniel. With respect to Tamron TC, I am almost sure you are wrong. Tamron put these two contacts to enable use of Pentax power zooms such as FA 28-80, 28-105 and 70-200.
Oops I did not know.

So does it mean that the new K100DSuper and K10D and K20D can use those power zooms?

It may be true all the major players have those power contacts. I doubt if Tamron would bother to provide them for a minority player like Pentax. Both Tamron/Sigma are interested in cutting cost to maximise client base

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QuoteOriginally posted by quarc Quote
I would go by the principle, if you need tele, most of the time what you have is too short :-) Seriously, I find the DA* 200 quite versatile. I have had a couple of photowalks with that lens on the main body and a 35 or 14 on the other. Where the DA* 300 is a special purpose lens I find the DA* 200 versatile (assuming you have something wide as well).

Here is an example of DA*200 from last saturday:



Nice shot. Toronto would have been too cold last weekend (same as Sweden I believe)



These were taken in summer with DA200mm


































This was also from DA200mm wide open at F2.8











The bokeh even at F5.6






Daniel

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