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03-02-2009, 02:21 AM   #1
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am i nuts?

Am I crazy to want the 15mm, 35mm, and 70mm Limiteds

along with

the Voigtländer 20mm, 40mm, and 58mm SLIIs?

I try to justify the obvious overlap in that one's a MF only set and the other would be pretty much limited (heh, no pun intended) to AF convenience. That, and I want to get a used MX, a brick of B&W film, and try my hand at home film development, hence the lust for the VLs.

Oh, and anyone here have any experience using MF for kids and other fast moving objects? Because then maybe I could kick the LBA down a little and just go for the VLs.

Edit: the VLs are a touch faster too, so that's another plus. One final consideration to get the Limiteds as well as the VLs is that MF using the K200D is a little iffy...


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You could use focus trap for fast objects.
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I have the A20, A24, 31LTD, 43LTD, 58 Nokton and 77LTD.

Mix and match, I shoot with all. With kids go wider and let DOF help with the focus. Or, just expect blurry pictures and just say your subject was moving.
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QuoteOriginally posted by rover Quote
I have the A20, A24, 31LTD, 43LTD, 58 Nokton and 77LTD.

Mix and match, I shoot with all. With kids go wider and let DOF help with the focus. Or, just expect blurry pictures and just say your subject was moving.
That's the way I'd like to take... Not getting full series of FAltd or DAltd etc...
I'd like to go mix & match
so to start with I have FA31, DA40, F50 (maybe one day to be replaced DA*55), and I'd like to add FA24, DA70 or FA77 and later DA21 or 14/15 (I'm leaning to 14 because of 2.8)
anyway, bottom line, don't collect series, get lenses you'll use no matter what series...
BR

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QuoteOriginally posted by ewalk Quote
Am I crazy to want the 15mm, 35mm, and 70mm Limiteds

along with

the Voigtländer 20mm, 40mm, and 58mm SLIIs?
...
Seems like a nice range but what do you do for longer than 70mm?

And sure, it's possible to use MF for kids: when my kids were little, MF was all I got.
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I find a nice bounce flash with a little face fill is invaluable for taking pix of my kids.
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Seems like a nice range but what do you do for longer than 70mm?
Shhhhhhhh...that's where the Zeiss 85mm comes in. Just don't tell the finance minister aka the fiancee.

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And sure, it's possible to use MF for kids: when my kids were little, MF was all I got.
cool. Thanks for all the comments and replies guys.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ewalk Quote
Am I crazy to want the 15mm, 35mm, and 70mm Limiteds

along with

the Voigtländer 20mm, 40mm, and 58mm SLIIs?
Why not stick to the DA Limited primes:

15mm, 21mm, 35mm, 40mm, and 70mm

If you need something to fill that gap between 40mm and 70mm the FA50 or DA*55 are good alternatives to the Voigtlander 58mm ... and you have the choice of AF or MF on all your lenses.

Oh, and if the DA21 isn't fast enough for you, the Sigma 20mm f/1.8 is a good alternative ... if you're willing to deal with the huge size of that lens.

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Why not stick to the DA Limited primes:

15mm, 21mm, 35mm, 40mm, and 70mm
That's what I was planning on doing, until I realized that I want a fully mechanical camera with no batteries.

I'd like to go back to film and try to develop my own b&w, so the other DA Limited's won't work out too well on an MX.

Also, the manual focus feel of the DA Limited's, while nice, is nowhere near as good as made for MF lenses like the VL or the Zeiss K mount ones.

But your post does tempt me to get the other DA Limited's, just to complete the series.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ewalk Quote
Am I crazy to want the 15mm, 35mm, and 70mm Limiteds

along with

the Voigtländer 20mm, 40mm, and 58mm SLIIs?
No, no, not at all. You need variety. You should also pick up the new Vivitar Series 1 85mm f1.4, and hunt Ebay for a Cosina 55mm f1.2.

QuoteOriginally posted by ewalk Quote
That's what I was planning on doing, until I realized that I want a fully mechanical camera with no batteries.

I'd like to go back to film and try to develop my own b&w, so the other DA Limited's won't work out too well on an MX.

Also, the manual focus feel of the DA Limited's, while nice, is nowhere near as good as made for MF lenses like the VL or the Zeiss K mount ones.

But your post does tempt me to get the other DA Limited's, just to complete the series.
Yes, that's it: "... just to complete the series." Speaking of Zeiss lenses, they could be next on your list, or perhaps you could look for some longer old manual focus primes. Think of all the possibilities if you start to include M42 mount lenses...

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Don't forget that the FA ltd's will work very nicely on film cameras as well.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ewalk Quote
Am I crazy to want the 15mm, 35mm, and 70mm Limiteds

along with

the Voigtländer 20mm, 40mm, and 58mm SLIIs?

I try to justify the obvious overlap in that one's a MF only set and the other would be pretty much limited (heh, no pun intended) to AF convenience. That, and I want to get a used MX, a brick of B&W film, and try my hand at home film development, hence the lust for the VLs.

Oh, and anyone here have any experience using MF for kids and other fast moving objects? Because then maybe I could kick the LBA down a little and just go for the VLs.

Edit: the VLs are a touch faster too, so that's another plus. One final consideration to get the Limiteds as well as the VLs is that MF using the K200D is a little iffy...
No, your logic makes perfect sense to me. In there is a nice set for AF and a nice set for MF. Nutty would be to have a DA Limited set and an FA limited set and a Voigtlander set and a Zeiss set. That would be nutty (to have all four lines) but two or three of them... no problem......
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QuoteOriginally posted by ewalk Quote
Shhhhhhhh...that's where the Zeiss 85mm comes in. Just don't tell the finance minister aka the fiancee.
Hmm, 85mm seems too close to the 70mm to me. Better go for the 100mm!

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I could and I have.
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QuoteOriginally posted by augustmoon Quote
No, your logic makes perfect sense to me. In there is a nice set for AF and a nice set for MF. Nutty would be to have a DA Limited set and an FA limited set and a Voigtlander set and a Zeiss set. That would be nutty (to have all four lines) but two or three of them... no problem......
Dodged a bullet there, eh Brian?
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