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Buddha Jones · 03-11-2009, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by pexi85

You´re not alone

I have 35mm ltd also, and im thinking the next lenses.
I think i go with 70mm ltd, and also buy 21mm ltd(or 10-20mm sigma)
In here Finland they both cost as much as one 77ltd?! Cheapiest 77mm is about 800-900€!
Damn i hate these prices

But i suggest u to keep your 35mm, its just so good and it also have macro abilities. Best lens i have had!

I think I will get the DA70LTD, but hold off on the DA21LTD until the DA15LTD comes out and gets tested/reviewed, a smidge slower but a whole lot wider. Besides, I like the spacing of 15/35/70 better.

Adrian Owerko · 03-15-2009, 03:14 AM

Originally posted by Buddha Jones

Damn this thread, it's as if the lens gods are peeping into my head. I am shooting a wedding, sort of, at the end of this year and was wanting to be just super light weight. I was going to take the DA35LTD and buy the DA70LTD to compliment it. But I was thinking of maybe selling the DA35LTD and get the FA31/77LTD. Honestly I am such a lens whore I want all four, but I just don't see that in the works unless I have an outstanding year. But it would be cheaper to get the DA70LTD first... ugh, I just can't decide.

Go for the DA 70mm ltd Buddha Jones.. You lens whore.. Then you can have all 5 DA ltd's.. OK not as fast as the FA ltd's.. But way more variety.. Thats what I want in my Bedroom (:

Sean Nelson · 03-15-2009, 11:13 AM

I've been following this thread for over a week and I still haven't seen any side-by-side pictures of the two lenses...

Marc Sabatella · 03-15-2009, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by Sean Nelson

I've been following this thread for over a week and I still haven't seen any side-by-side pictures of the two lenses...

Aside from the one on page 1 of the thread?

BTW, although that picture shows that the difference will hoods on and everything fully extended isn't very great, I think the 70 retracts more, and of course, with hoods off, the difference is probably more striking (not that I've seen them side by side). The 77 is hardly a "large" lens, but it *is* twice the weight of the 70.

dugrant153 · 03-15-2009, 10:35 PM

Having just purchased the DA70, I can say it's a VERY light lens. Just a tad lighter than my very mini DA40 Limited.

Sean Nelson · 03-16-2009, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by Sean Nelson

I've been following this thread for over a week and I still haven't seen any side-by-side pictures of the two lenses...

Originally posted by Marc Sabatella

Aside from the one on page 1 of the thread?

D*mn, how in heck did I miss that?!? You know, I actually went through every page of the thread before making that post and I'm completely baffled as to why I didn't see it.

I must be losing it...

legacyb4 · 03-21-2009, 08:40 AM

Just to confirm with DA 70 owners, the 49mm filter is the end of the lens fully extended and the hood screwed onto the filter, right? Fully retracted, I'm assuming the filter retracts in as close as the focusing ring?

Originally posted by frank

Not taken by me, but someone else:

dugrant153 · 03-21-2009, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by legacyb4

Just to confirm with DA 70 owners, the 49mm filter is the end of the lens fully extended and the hood screwed onto the filter, right? Fully retracted, I'm assuming the filter retracts in as close as the focusing ring?

actually, for the DA70, the lens hood is a screw-on type that pulls out. So it's like a separate attachment. Because the end of the lens hood is slightly beveled, there is no area to screw in any type of filter.

The 49mm filter would attach to the lens first, then the pull-out hood on top of that:

K20D -> DA70 lens -> (49mm filter) -> Pullout hood

Hope that makes sense

benjikan · 03-21-2009, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by dugrant153

Having just purchased the DA70, I can say it's a VERY light lens. Just a tad lighter than my very mini DA40 Limited.

You mean heavier?

jonny1986 · 03-21-2009, 06:18 PM

as i was robbed in a trip in brazil and los my loved 50 1,7, i have planned to re buy a fifty and add more lenses.
i have only zoom now and a sigma 105. i want to take some primes
what do you suggest?

first idea

77 1,9
55 1,4
40 2,8

70 2,4
55 1,4
35 2,8

70 2,4
55 1,4
43 1,9

maybe i'll add the 15 before going thailand so i can use four primes only and take also the 50-135

thanks for the suggestion

dugrant153 · 03-21-2009, 11:27 PM

Originally posted by benjikan

You mean heavier?

Oops! Yup, you're right. It's just a tad heavier than the DA40 Limited.

But it's still an extremely light lens.

dugrant153 · 03-21-2009, 11:28 PM

Originally posted by jonny1986

as i was robbed in a trip in brazil and los my loved 50 1,7, i have planned to re buy a fifty and add more lenses.
i have only zoom now and a sigma 105. i want to take some primes
what do you suggest?

first idea

77 1,9
55 1,4
40 2,8

70 2,4
55 1,4
35 2,8

70 2,4
55 1,4
43 1,9

maybe i'll add the 15 before going thailand so i can use four primes only and take also the 50-135

thanks for the suggestion

Have you considered the DA21mm?

I'd probably go with the the third set: 43/55/70. And then I'd add the DA21.

dave9t5 · 03-21-2009, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by jonny1986

as i was robbed in a trip in brazil and los my loved 50 1,7, i have planned to re buy a fifty and add more lenses.
i have only zoom now and a sigma 105. i want to take some primes
what do you suggest?

first idea

77 1,9
55 1,4
40 2,8

70 2,4
55 1,4
35 2,8

70 2,4
55 1,4
43 1,9

maybe i'll add the 15 before going thailand so i can use four primes only and take also the 50-135

thanks for the suggestion

Since you are basing the set around the 55/1.4, I would go for the biggest spread:

77/1.8
55/1.4
35/2.8

The focal-length
from 55 -> 77 = 1.4x
from 35 -> 55 = 1.6x

The 35 is really small and useful lens. Not as small as the 40/2.8, but easy to manual-focus and has 1:1 macro.

legacyb4 · 03-22-2009, 12:10 AM

Depending on your shooting style and preferences, I'd spread the gap more and go with:

21 3.2
40/43/50 (pick your poison)
70/77/85 (again, pick your poison)

if you were sticking with Pentax and wanted to have a set that provides you with distinct look and feel for your shots.

Originally posted by jonny1986

as i was robbed in a trip in brazil and los my loved 50 1,7, i have planned to re buy a fifty and add more lenses.
i have only zoom now and a sigma 105. i want to take some primes
what do you suggest?

eyou · 03-23-2009, 07:30 PM

took these on my first few days out. havent really been able to test it out too much but im liking 77mm a lot. there is cyan fringing

. it's not too bad tho. I love the way you can blow out the background tho. pics taken at f2.0 and f1.8. im still intrigued by the DA70mm tho cause of all the nice pictures.

on the k-m/k2000 the AF isnt bad at all. its on par with the other FA. maybe it has a slightly better low light lock than the older bodies? if it can't lock it just goes from close to infinity and stops and says no lock.

if the 70mm can blow out the backgrounds as nicely i might have to trade tho...

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03-11-2009, 07:04 PM	#46
Buddha Jones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,587	Originally posted by pexi85 You´re not alone I have 35mm ltd also, and im thinking the next lenses. I think i go with 70mm ltd, and also buy 21mm ltd(or 10-20mm sigma) In here Finland they both cost as much as one 77ltd?! Cheapiest 77mm is about 800-900€! Damn i hate these prices But i suggest u to keep your 35mm, its just so good and it also have macro abilities. Best lens i have had! I think I will get the DA70LTD, but hold off on the DA21LTD until the DA15LTD comes out and gets tested/reviewed, a smidge slower but a whole lot wider. Besides, I like the spacing of 15/35/70 better.

03-15-2009, 03:14 AM	#47
Adrian Owerko Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: South Australia Posts: 435	Originally posted by Buddha Jones Damn this thread, it's as if the lens gods are peeping into my head. I am shooting a wedding, sort of, at the end of this year and was wanting to be just super light weight. I was going to take the DA35LTD and buy the DA70LTD to compliment it. But I was thinking of maybe selling the DA35LTD and get the FA31/77LTD. Honestly I am such a lens whore I want all four, but I just don't see that in the works unless I have an outstanding year. But it would be cheaper to get the DA70LTD first... ugh, I just can't decide. Go for the DA 70mm ltd Buddha Jones.. You lens whore.. Then you can have all 5 DA ltd's.. OK not as fast as the FA ltd's.. But way more variety.. Thats what I want in my Bedroom (:

03-15-2009, 11:13 AM	#48
Sean Nelson Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Vancouver BC Canada Posts: 353	I've been following this thread for over a week and I still haven't seen any side-by-side pictures of the two lenses...

03-15-2009, 11:46 AM	#49
Marc Sabatella Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Denver, CO Photos: Gallery Posts: 10,685	Originally posted by Sean Nelson I've been following this thread for over a week and I still haven't seen any side-by-side pictures of the two lenses... Aside from the one on page 1 of the thread? BTW, although that picture shows that the difference will hoods on and everything fully extended isn't very great, I think the 70 retracts more, and of course, with hoods off, the difference is probably more striking (not that I've seen them side by side). The 77 is hardly a "large" lens, but it is twice the weight of the 70.

03-15-2009, 10:35 PM	#50
dugrant153 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,059	Having just purchased the DA70, I can say it's a VERY light lens. Just a tad lighter than my very mini DA40 Limited.

03-16-2009, 10:03 AM	#51
Sean Nelson Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Vancouver BC Canada Posts: 353	Originally posted by Sean Nelson I've been following this thread for over a week and I still haven't seen any side-by-side pictures of the two lenses... Originally posted by Marc Sabatella Aside from the one on page 1 of the thread? D*mn, how in heck did I miss that?!? You know, I actually went through every page of the thread before making that post and I'm completely baffled as to why I didn't see it. I must be losing it...

03-21-2009, 08:40 AM	#52
legacyb4 Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Tri-Cities, British Columbia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,784	Just to confirm with DA 70 owners, the 49mm filter is the end of the lens fully extended and the hood screwed onto the filter, right? Fully retracted, I'm assuming the filter retracts in as close as the focusing ring? Originally posted by frank Not taken by me, but someone else:

03-21-2009, 11:26 AM	#53
dugrant153 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,059	Originally posted by legacyb4 Just to confirm with DA 70 owners, the 49mm filter is the end of the lens fully extended and the hood screwed onto the filter, right? Fully retracted, I'm assuming the filter retracts in as close as the focusing ring? actually, for the DA70, the lens hood is a screw-on type that pulls out. So it's like a separate attachment. Because the end of the lens hood is slightly beveled, there is no area to screw in any type of filter. The 49mm filter would attach to the lens first, then the pull-out hood on top of that: K20D -> DA70 lens -> (49mm filter) -> Pullout hood Hope that makes sense

03-21-2009, 01:02 PM	#54
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308	Originally posted by dugrant153 Having just purchased the DA70, I can say it's a VERY light lens. Just a tad lighter than my very mini DA40 Limited. You mean heavier?

03-21-2009, 06:18 PM	#55
jonny1986 Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: italy Posts: 411	as i was robbed in a trip in brazil and los my loved 50 1,7, i have planned to re buy a fifty and add more lenses. i have only zoom now and a sigma 105. i want to take some primes what do you suggest? first idea 77 1,9 55 1,4 40 2,8 70 2,4 55 1,4 35 2,8 70 2,4 55 1,4 43 1,9 maybe i'll add the 15 before going thailand so i can use four primes only and take also the 50-135 thanks for the suggestion

03-21-2009, 11:27 PM	#56
dugrant153 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,059	Originally posted by benjikan You mean heavier? Oops! Yup, you're right. It's just a tad heavier than the DA40 Limited. But it's still an extremely light lens.

03-21-2009, 11:28 PM	#57
dugrant153 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,059	Originally posted by jonny1986 as i was robbed in a trip in brazil and los my loved 50 1,7, i have planned to re buy a fifty and add more lenses. i have only zoom now and a sigma 105. i want to take some primes what do you suggest? first idea 77 1,9 55 1,4 40 2,8 70 2,4 55 1,4 35 2,8 70 2,4 55 1,4 43 1,9 maybe i'll add the 15 before going thailand so i can use four primes only and take also the 50-135 thanks for the suggestion Have you considered the DA21mm? I'd probably go with the the third set: 43/55/70. And then I'd add the DA21.

03-21-2009, 11:45 PM	#58
dave9t5 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Toronto, Canada & Taichung, Taiwan Photos: Albums Posts: 329	Originally posted by jonny1986 as i was robbed in a trip in brazil and los my loved 50 1,7, i have planned to re buy a fifty and add more lenses. i have only zoom now and a sigma 105. i want to take some primes what do you suggest? first idea 77 1,9 55 1,4 40 2,8 70 2,4 55 1,4 35 2,8 70 2,4 55 1,4 43 1,9 maybe i'll add the 15 before going thailand so i can use four primes only and take also the 50-135 thanks for the suggestion Since you are basing the set around the 55/1.4, I would go for the biggest spread: 77/1.8 55/1.4 35/2.8 The focal-length from 55 -> 77 = 1.4x from 35 -> 55 = 1.6x The 35 is really small and useful lens. Not as small as the 40/2.8, but easy to manual-focus and has 1:1 macro.

03-22-2009, 12:10 AM	#59
legacyb4 Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Tri-Cities, British Columbia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,784	Depending on your shooting style and preferences, I'd spread the gap more and go with: 21 3.2 40/43/50 (pick your poison) 70/77/85 (again, pick your poison) if you were sticking with Pentax and wanted to have a set that provides you with distinct look and feel for your shots. Originally posted by jonny1986 as i was robbed in a trip in brazil and los my loved 50 1,7, i have planned to re buy a fifty and add more lenses. i have only zoom now and a sigma 105. i want to take some primes what do you suggest?

03-23-2009, 07:30 PM	#60
eyou Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 224 Original Poster	took these on my first few days out. havent really been able to test it out too much but im liking 77mm a lot. there is cyan fringing . it's not too bad tho. I love the way you can blow out the background tho. pics taken at f2.0 and f1.8. im still intrigued by the DA70mm tho cause of all the nice pictures. on the k-m/k2000 the AF isnt bad at all. its on par with the other FA. maybe it has a slightly better low light lock than the older bodies? if it can't lock it just goes from close to infinity and stops and says no lock. if the 70mm can blow out the backgrounds as nicely i might have to trade tho...

Any pictures of 70mm and 77mm DA side by side?

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