What lens should Pentax make/remake?

RonMexico · 03-22-2009, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by HoHo

Two lenses, I would buy,

- 135 1:2.8 Limited, would be really great

- and a macro between 70 and 105 1:2.8 Limited

Greetings from Germany, this is my first post here in this forum, sorry for my bad english.

Holger

Nonsense! Your english is just fine.
Welcome to the site!

I think a macro lens in that range would be great.

pcarfan · 03-22-2009, 02:41 PM

They have to start making the

FA 85/1.4

A 200/F4 macro

**jamesk8752** · 03-22-2009, 04:55 PM

As has been said in earlier posts, one big omission in the DA series is a fast near-normal prime - 28-32mm f2 or better. As I have the FA31, I'd really like to see a 28mm f1.4 added to the lineup, but I'd settle for an f2 in a flash.

The other hole is in the range of 90-135mm. With stellar old designs like the 100/120/135 K and M primes in their history, it shouldn't be too difficult for Pentax to bring us something in this range.

I hope that the "new" lens series that has been discussed will offer us some of these missing FLs.

Regards, Jim

RonMexico · 03-22-2009, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by jamesk8752

As has been said in earlier posts, one big omission in the DA series is a fast near-normal prime - 28-32mm f2 or better. As I have the FA31, I'd really like to see a 28mm f1.4 added to the lineup, but I'd settle for an f2 in a flash.

The other hole is in the range of 90-135mm. With stellar old designs like the 100/120/135 K and M primes in their history, it shouldn't be too difficult for Pentax to bring us something in this range.

I hope that the "new" lens series that has been discussed will offer us some of these missing FLs.

Regards, Jim

Jim,

With the FA 31, how much difference would you have with a 28mm?
I mean, suppose you had a 28mm/1.4 when would you ever use the FA 31?

creampuff · 03-22-2009, 05:17 PM

There are serious gaps in Pentax's lens line-up currently that I think they need to address.
Small compact DA lenses with slow maximum aperture are nice but fast glass is sorely missing.

Question:
What's the fastest lens (maximum aperture) in current production on the wide end and in the telephoto range?

Answer:
the FA 31mm f/1.8 Limited and the FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited.
For APS-C, 31mm simply isn't wide enough and there is nothing faster than f/2.8 beyond 77mm.

It would also be good if Pentax does a serious rethink and revamp the current DA line to have a wider image circle, perhaps a redesign of the rear group.
That might make the lenses future ready should they rollout a FF camera looking forward.

Also I'd like them to give some serious thought to affordable constant aperture f/4 zooms to give an alternative to the DA*s.

Use ring type SDM instead of the micro SDM motors currently in use.

RonMexico · 03-22-2009, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by creampuff

There are serious gaps in Pentax's lens line-up currently that I think they need to address.
Small compact DA lenses with slow maximum aperture are nice but fast glass is sorely missing.

Question:
What's the fastest lens (maximum aperture) in current production on the wide end and in the telephoto range?

Answer:
the FA 31mm f/1.8 Limited and the FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited.
For APS-C, 31mm simply isn't wide enough and there is nothing faster than f/2.8 beyond 77mm.

It would also be good if Pentax does a serious rethink and revamp the current DA line to have a wider image circle, perhaps a redesign of the rear group.
That might make the lenses future ready should they rollout a FF camera looking forward.

Also I'd like them to give some serious thought to affordable constant aperture f/4 zooms to give an alternative to the DA*s.

Use ring type SDM instead of the micro SDM motors currently in use.

I see your point.

It's funny because I thought the DA 15mm would be at least a 2.8 or faster, but they're going 4.0.

Same went for the DA 21mm.

**rparmar** · 03-22-2009, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by RonMexico

Jim,

With the FA 31, how much difference would you have with a 28mm?
I mean, suppose you had a 28mm/1.4 when would you ever use the FA 31?

I'll answer this since I also called for a DA28/2 (and of course I'd like faster, but I'm realistic).

The FA31 measures out to nearly 32mm. There is a world of difference between that and 28mm IMO. And 24mm is distinctly different again. Perspective distortion is not an issue at 28mm but at 24mm it is. 28mm gets just enough in the picture but 32mm is too tight. Admittedly it's all about the "feel" but I'm learning to be quite picky about that!

Pentax should be able to give us a very good to excellent DA28/2 Limited at the same price or cheaper than the FA*24/2. I doubt they will, though, because they seem to think f/2.8 or even f/4 is good enough for us.

My dream is to have fast lenses at 15, 28, 43, 77 and 105. The FA31 and the 35mm lenses don't really work for me.

kbrabble · 03-22-2009, 05:49 PM

I would love to see a remake of the K85mm f/1.8, preferably in a limited series, but I would settle for a DA*

Transit · 03-22-2009, 05:52 PM

remake Takumar 135/3.5 preset with screw drive focus

Pete

**jamesk8752** · 03-22-2009, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by RonMexico

Jim,

With the FA 31, how much difference would you have with a 28mm?
I mean, suppose you had a 28mm/1.4 when would you ever use the FA 31?

I was addressing gaps in the DA lineup, not the overall Pentax lineup. The need for a fast 28mm is mainly for those who want/need an affordable normal for their DSLR. That said, I'd like one for the QS focusing capability and hopefully for HSM focusing as well, and the extra FOV would be useful as well. Otherwise, for FOV and lens speed I'm reasonably well served by the FA 31.

Regards, Jim

**GaryM** · 03-22-2009, 06:02 PM

DA*30/1.4
DA135 Limited

Reportage · 03-22-2009, 06:12 PM

28-105 F2 if possible

**Hannican** · 03-22-2009, 06:36 PM

I too would like a DA 200mm dedicated macro

It'd be damn nice if it were weather-sealed. Auto-focus optional.

**barondla** · 03-22-2009, 07:00 PM

They need to release:
200mm macro 3rd
400 5.6 do 1st
500 4.5
600 ?
100-400 zoom 2nd
250-600 zoom
tilt shift lens (it had better tilt)
10mm prime (not FE)
thanks
barondla

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RonMexico · 03-22-2009, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by jamesk8752

I was addressing gaps in the DA lineup, not the overall Pentax lineup. The need for a fast 28mm is mainly for those who want/need an affordable normal for their DSLR. That said, I'd like one for the QS focusing capability and hopefully for HSM focusing as well, and the extra FOV would be useful as well. Otherwise, for FOV and lens speed I'm reasonably well served by the FA 31.

Regards, Jim

fair enough. that's true
i was thinking overall products...not just DA lenses, or DA* lenses

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03-22-2009, 01:08 PM	#61
RonMexico Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New York Photos: Gallery Posts: 215 Original Poster	Originally posted by HoHo Two lenses, I would buy, - 135 1:2.8 Limited, would be really great - and a macro between 70 and 105 1:2.8 Limited Greetings from Germany, this is my first post here in this forum, sorry for my bad english. Holger Nonsense! Your english is just fine. Welcome to the site! I think a macro lens in that range would be great.

03-22-2009, 02:41 PM	#62
pcarfan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, Ohio Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,978	They have to start making the FA 85/1.4 A 200/F4 macro

03-22-2009, 04:55 PM	#63
jamesk8752 Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Suburban Detroit, MI, USA Posts: 238	As has been said in earlier posts, one big omission in the DA series is a fast near-normal prime - 28-32mm f2 or better. As I have the FA31, I'd really like to see a 28mm f1.4 added to the lineup, but I'd settle for an f2 in a flash. The other hole is in the range of 90-135mm. With stellar old designs like the 100/120/135 K and M primes in their history, it shouldn't be too difficult for Pentax to bring us something in this range. I hope that the "new" lens series that has been discussed will offer us some of these missing FLs. Regards, Jim

03-22-2009, 05:08 PM	#64
RonMexico Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New York Photos: Gallery Posts: 215 Original Poster	Originally posted by jamesk8752 As has been said in earlier posts, one big omission in the DA series is a fast near-normal prime - 28-32mm f2 or better. As I have the FA31, I'd really like to see a 28mm f1.4 added to the lineup, but I'd settle for an f2 in a flash. The other hole is in the range of 90-135mm. With stellar old designs like the 100/120/135 K and M primes in their history, it shouldn't be too difficult for Pentax to bring us something in this range. I hope that the "new" lens series that has been discussed will offer us some of these missing FLs. Regards, Jim Jim, With the FA 31, how much difference would you have with a 28mm? I mean, suppose you had a 28mm/1.4 when would you ever use the FA 31?

03-22-2009, 05:17 PM	#65
creampuff Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,953	There are serious gaps in Pentax's lens line-up currently that I think they need to address. Small compact DA lenses with slow maximum aperture are nice but fast glass is sorely missing. Question: What's the fastest lens (maximum aperture) in current production on the wide end and in the telephoto range? Answer: the FA 31mm f/1.8 Limited and the FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited. For APS-C, 31mm simply isn't wide enough and there is nothing faster than f/2.8 beyond 77mm. It would also be good if Pentax does a serious rethink and revamp the current DA line to have a wider image circle, perhaps a redesign of the rear group. That might make the lenses future ready should they rollout a FF camera looking forward. Also I'd like them to give some serious thought to affordable constant aperture f/4 zooms to give an alternative to the DA*s. Use ring type SDM instead of the micro SDM motors currently in use.

03-22-2009, 05:22 PM	#66
RonMexico Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New York Photos: Gallery Posts: 215 Original Poster	Originally posted by creampuff There are serious gaps in Pentax's lens line-up currently that I think they need to address. Small compact DA lenses with slow maximum aperture are nice but fast glass is sorely missing. Question: What's the fastest lens (maximum aperture) in current production on the wide end and in the telephoto range? Answer: the FA 31mm f/1.8 Limited and the FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited. For APS-C, 31mm simply isn't wide enough and there is nothing faster than f/2.8 beyond 77mm. It would also be good if Pentax does a serious rethink and revamp the current DA line to have a wider image circle, perhaps a redesign of the rear group. That might make the lenses future ready should they rollout a FF camera looking forward. Also I'd like them to give some serious thought to affordable constant aperture f/4 zooms to give an alternative to the DA*s. Use ring type SDM instead of the micro SDM motors currently in use. I see your point. It's funny because I thought the DA 15mm would be at least a 2.8 or faster, but they're going 4.0. Same went for the DA 21mm.

03-22-2009, 05:31 PM	#67
rparmar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,823	Originally posted by RonMexico Jim, With the FA 31, how much difference would you have with a 28mm? I mean, suppose you had a 28mm/1.4 when would you ever use the FA 31? I'll answer this since I also called for a DA28/2 (and of course I'd like faster, but I'm realistic). The FA31 measures out to nearly 32mm. There is a world of difference between that and 28mm IMO. And 24mm is distinctly different again. Perspective distortion is not an issue at 28mm but at 24mm it is. 28mm gets just enough in the picture but 32mm is too tight. Admittedly it's all about the "feel" but I'm learning to be quite picky about that! Pentax should be able to give us a very good to excellent DA28/2 Limited at the same price or cheaper than the FA*24/2. I doubt they will, though, because they seem to think f/2.8 or even f/4 is good enough for us. My dream is to have fast lenses at 15, 28, 43, 77 and 105. The FA31 and the 35mm lenses don't really work for me.

03-22-2009, 05:49 PM	#68
kbrabble Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 181	I would love to see a remake of the K85mm f/1.8, preferably in a limited series, but I would settle for a DA*

03-22-2009, 05:52 PM	#69
Transit Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Whanganui NZ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,624	remake Takumar 135/3.5 preset with screw drive focus Pete

03-22-2009, 05:58 PM	#70
jamesk8752 Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Suburban Detroit, MI, USA Posts: 238	Originally posted by RonMexico Jim, With the FA 31, how much difference would you have with a 28mm? I mean, suppose you had a 28mm/1.4 when would you ever use the FA 31? I was addressing gaps in the DA lineup, not the overall Pentax lineup. The need for a fast 28mm is mainly for those who want/need an affordable normal for their DSLR. That said, I'd like one for the QS focusing capability and hopefully for HSM focusing as well, and the extra FOV would be useful as well. Otherwise, for FOV and lens speed I'm reasonably well served by the FA 31. Regards, Jim

03-22-2009, 06:02 PM	#71
GaryM Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Montclair, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 426	DA*30/1.4 DA135 Limited

03-22-2009, 06:12 PM	#72
Reportage Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 739	28-105 F2 if possible

03-22-2009, 06:36 PM	#73
Hannican Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Irvine, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 485	I too would like a DA 200mm dedicated macro It'd be damn nice if it were weather-sealed. Auto-focus optional.

03-22-2009, 07:00 PM	#74
barondla Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: midwest, United States Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,715	They need to release: 200mm macro 3rd 400 5.6 do 1st 500 4.5 600 ? 100-400 zoom 2nd 250-600 zoom tilt shift lens (it had better tilt) 10mm prime (not FE) thanks barondla Check out POINT & SHOOT CONTEST #16 WINNERS in P&S forum. Enter #17. Any brand camera. Any subject. Enter now!

03-22-2009, 07:39 PM	#75
RonMexico Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New York Photos: Gallery Posts: 215 Original Poster	Originally posted by jamesk8752 I was addressing gaps in the DA lineup, not the overall Pentax lineup. The need for a fast 28mm is mainly for those who want/need an affordable normal for their DSLR. That said, I'd like one for the QS focusing capability and hopefully for HSM focusing as well, and the extra FOV would be useful as well. Otherwise, for FOV and lens speed I'm reasonably well served by the FA 31. Regards, Jim fair enough. that's true i was thinking overall products...not just DA lenses, or DA* lenses