What lens should Pentax make/remake?

Corros · 03-23-2009, 02:46 PM

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something like a 70-200 2.8. Like the one of canon with very silent AF and also the AF functions of that Canon lens (You can lock it so it won't focus that close).

RBellavance · 03-23-2009, 03:30 PM

An "optimised for digital", *relatively affordable* 24mm or 28mm f/2 or faster would be extremely appreciated.

A sealed version of the same would also be highly desirable.

Votesh · 03-23-2009, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by creampuff

Why pay a BIN price when there's one pristine looking A* 135mm f/1.8 for bidding right now

SMC Pentax - A * Telephoto 135mm f/1.8 Lens - *RARE* - eBay (item 270359726550 end time Mar-23-09 19:38:57 PDT)

I'm bidding on that one and if it goes for my max bid it will be quite the steal.

Arpe · 03-23-2009, 04:39 PM

70-200/f2.8 with the faster type of in-built focus motor
1.4x TC
300/f2.8

Ratmagiclady · 03-23-2009, 07:46 PM

Think the 28/2 could do nicely.

And don't even talk about FF till there's a fast 85.

kenyee · 03-23-2009, 07:59 PM

Originally posted by Votesh

I'm bidding on that one and if it goes for my max bid it will be quite the steal.

ok...are you the bum that beat me to this? I was all excited about getting it for $982 when it zoomed up to $1226 in the last 20sec

nanobaud · 03-23-2009, 11:06 PM

I will add to earlier citations based on reputation (and frustration with other-brand alternatives), since if I actually had one I wouldn't need a remake:

FA* 28-70 / 2.8
A* 200 / 4 macro

and something I didn't notice previously mentioned:

Full-function (i.e. supports function of any lens), weather-sealed, modest gain (1.4x or even only 1.2x), high-quality (OK, as good as can be expeced) rear converter - something I can leave on the camera in harsh conditions and still exchange lenses. SR working with older lenses is cool, why not a degree of weather-sealing.

creampuff · 03-23-2009, 11:28 PM

Originally posted by Jodokast96

Ok, if you're talking just primes, there's the DA* 200 f/2.8. Throw in zooms, and you've got the DA* 50-135. Still lacking, but not as totally as you've made it to be.

Read faster than f/2.8...
The fastest long lens from Pentax in current production is the DA* 200mm f/2.8. Pentax hasn't got any lens in current production that is faster than f/2.8 beyond the FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited.

Nikon and Canon already have long lenses with wider maximum apertures from the 100-135mm range onwards like the AF DC-NIKKOR 105mm f/2D, and AF DC-NIKKOR 135mm f/2D, EF 100mm f/2 USM, EF 135mm f/2L USM

If you're comparing with the Pentax 200mm there is the AF-S VR Nikkor 200mm f/2G IF-ED and EF 200mm f/2L IS USM.

**Matthew** · 03-24-2009, 02:05 AM

Originally posted by xjjohnno

A 500mm or 600mm tele lens of the mirror variety, something light and not too bulky for critter pics, and hopefully having dealt with CA and the other issues that cropped up with the mirror lenses. Add reasonably fast like f4.

I have a 600/f8 and the depth of field on that is shallow enough so I think such a mirror lens at f4 would really only be useful for shooting the heavens! Actually, not a bad idea on that count.

On the mirror lens front, I am surprised that someone hasn't tried making one that is offset so as there is no hole in the main mirror. It might even be able to be stopped down.

**Lowell Goudge** · 03-24-2009, 02:23 AM

Originally posted by Matthew

I have a 600/f8 and the depth of field on that is shallow enough so I think such a mirror lens at f4 would really only be useful for shooting the heavens! Actually, not a bad idea on that count.

On the mirror lens front, I am surprised that someone hasn't tried making one that is offset so as there is no hole in the main mirror. It might even be able to be stopped down.

The hole in the main mirror is not really an issue because the secondary mirror is in front of it any way. also, making it offset would then require a second optical path. if you really want this, get a newtonian telescope

Jodokast96 · 03-24-2009, 02:48 AM

Touche. I guess I should go back to 3 grade reading comprehension now, lol.

kenyee · 03-24-2009, 06:25 AM

Originally posted by creampuff

If you're comparing with the Pentax 200mm there is the AF-S VR Nikkor 200mm f/2G IF-ED and EF 200mm f/2L IS USM.

Are you saying you'd pay $4-6K for this? :-)
People are too cheap to pay for the 600/4 which you can still get now for $6-7K

creampuff · 03-24-2009, 07:38 AM

Originally posted by kenyee

Are you saying you'd pay $4-6K for this? :-)
People are too cheap to pay for the 600/4 which you can still get now for $6-7K

I certainly would if I was making a living from photography.
I have a Nikon gearhead friend who has the 200mm f/2 and if the DA* 200mm f/2.8 is a lovely lens, the Nikon is simply... WOW
FA 600 f/4... nah, one has got to be a serious sports shooter or wildlife shooter for it, which I'm not.

Votesh · 03-24-2009, 06:03 PM

I was the high bidder from I believe the first day to less than 1 minute before the end. My max bid was $1200. I was actually hoping I wouldn't win though. I bought a FA* 85mm a few days after I first bid on the 135 thinking I was going to be outbid in no time. Instead I was biting my nails to the end because I would have likely just had to sell the 135 within the next few weeks anyway, None-the-less, I wouldn't have minded getting it for below $1000.

Originally posted by kenyee

ok...are you the bum that beat me to this? I was all excited about getting it for $982 when it zoomed up to $1226 in the last 20sec

kenyee · 03-24-2009, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by Votesh

I was the high bidder from I believe the first day to less than 1 minute before the end. My max bid was $1200. I was actually hoping I wouldn't win though.

I'm glad I didn't as well. I found out that you can get a 135/2 in Canikon for $1K new...and used ones for $750. Makes the argument for a dual system arrangement better

03-24-2009, 02:05 AM	#99
Matthew Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hawkesbury Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,896	You must be good at focusing! Originally posted by xjjohnno A 500mm or 600mm tele lens of the mirror variety, something light and not too bulky for critter pics, and hopefully having dealt with CA and the other issues that cropped up with the mirror lenses. Add reasonably fast like f4. I have a 600/f8 and the depth of field on that is shallow enough so I think such a mirror lens at f4 would really only be useful for shooting the heavens! Actually, not a bad idea on that count. On the mirror lens front, I am surprised that someone hasn't tried making one that is offset so as there is no hole in the main mirror. It might even be able to be stopped down.

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03-23-2009, 02:46 PM	#91
Corros Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gouda, Netherlands Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 165	Staff note: This post may contain affiliate links, which means Pentax Forums may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. If you would like to support the forum directly, you may also make a donation here. something like a 70-200 2.8. Like the one of canon with very silent AF and also the AF functions of that Canon lens (You can lock it so it won't focus that close).

03-23-2009, 03:30 PM	#92
RBellavance Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Near Montréal, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,716	An "optimised for digital", relatively affordable 24mm or 28mm f/2 or faster would be extremely appreciated. A sealed version of the same would also be highly desirable.

03-23-2009, 03:38 PM	#93
Votesh Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 817	Originally posted by creampuff Why pay a BIN price when there's one pristine looking A* 135mm f/1.8 for bidding right now SMC Pentax - A * Telephoto 135mm f/1.8 Lens - RARE - eBay (item 270359726550 end time Mar-23-09 19:38:57 PDT) I'm bidding on that one and if it goes for my max bid it will be quite the steal.

03-23-2009, 04:39 PM	#94
Arpe Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,452	70-200/f2.8 with the faster type of in-built focus motor 1.4x TC 300/f2.8

03-23-2009, 07:46 PM	#95
Ratmagiclady Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,563	Think the 28/2 could do nicely. And don't even talk about FF till there's a fast 85.

03-23-2009, 07:59 PM	#96
kenyee Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston, PRofMA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,026	Originally posted by Votesh I'm bidding on that one and if it goes for my max bid it will be quite the steal. ok...are you the bum that beat me to this? I was all excited about getting it for $982 when it zoomed up to $1226 in the last 20sec

03-23-2009, 11:06 PM	#97
nanobaud New Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 10	I will add to earlier citations based on reputation (and frustration with other-brand alternatives), since if I actually had one I wouldn't need a remake: FA* 28-70 / 2.8 A* 200 / 4 macro and something I didn't notice previously mentioned: Full-function (i.e. supports function of any lens), weather-sealed, modest gain (1.4x or even only 1.2x), high-quality (OK, as good as can be expeced) rear converter - something I can leave on the camera in harsh conditions and still exchange lenses. SR working with older lenses is cool, why not a degree of weather-sealing.

03-23-2009, 11:28 PM	#98
creampuff Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,953	Originally posted by Jodokast96 Ok, if you're talking just primes, there's the DA* 200 f/2.8. Throw in zooms, and you've got the DA* 50-135. Still lacking, but not as totally as you've made it to be. Read faster than f/2.8... The fastest long lens from Pentax in current production is the DA* 200mm f/2.8. Pentax hasn't got any lens in current production that is faster than f/2.8 beyond the FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited. Nikon and Canon already have long lenses with wider maximum apertures from the 100-135mm range onwards like the AF DC-NIKKOR 105mm f/2D, and AF DC-NIKKOR 135mm f/2D, EF 100mm f/2 USM, EF 135mm f/2L USM If you're comparing with the Pentax 200mm there is the AF-S VR Nikkor 200mm f/2G IF-ED and EF 200mm f/2L IS USM.

03-24-2009, 02:23 AM	#100
Lowell Goudge Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,891	Originally posted by Matthew I have a 600/f8 and the depth of field on that is shallow enough so I think such a mirror lens at f4 would really only be useful for shooting the heavens! Actually, not a bad idea on that count. On the mirror lens front, I am surprised that someone hasn't tried making one that is offset so as there is no hole in the main mirror. It might even be able to be stopped down. The hole in the main mirror is not really an issue because the secondary mirror is in front of it any way. also, making it offset would then require a second optical path. if you really want this, get a newtonian telescope

03-24-2009, 02:48 AM	#101
Jodokast96 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Erial, NJ USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,134	Touche. I guess I should go back to 3 grade reading comprehension now, lol.

03-24-2009, 06:25 AM	#102
kenyee Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston, PRofMA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,026	Originally posted by creampuff If you're comparing with the Pentax 200mm there is the AF-S VR Nikkor 200mm f/2G IF-ED and EF 200mm f/2L IS USM. Are you saying you'd pay $4-6K for this? :-) People are too cheap to pay for the 600/4 which you can still get now for $6-7K

03-24-2009, 07:38 AM	#103
creampuff Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,953	Originally posted by kenyee Are you saying you'd pay $4-6K for this? :-) People are too cheap to pay for the 600/4 which you can still get now for $6-7K I certainly would if I was making a living from photography. I have a Nikon gearhead friend who has the 200mm f/2 and if the DA* 200mm f/2.8 is a lovely lens, the Nikon is simply... WOW FA 600 f/4... nah, one has got to be a serious sports shooter or wildlife shooter for it, which I'm not.

03-24-2009, 06:03 PM	#104
Votesh Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 817	I was the high bidder from I believe the first day to less than 1 minute before the end. My max bid was $1200. I was actually hoping I wouldn't win though. I bought a FA* 85mm a few days after I first bid on the 135 thinking I was going to be outbid in no time. Instead I was biting my nails to the end because I would have likely just had to sell the 135 within the next few weeks anyway, None-the-less, I wouldn't have minded getting it for below $1000. Originally posted by kenyee ok...are you the bum that beat me to this? I was all excited about getting it for $982 when it zoomed up to $1226 in the last 20sec

03-24-2009, 06:57 PM	#105
kenyee Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston, PRofMA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,026	Originally posted by Votesh I was the high bidder from I believe the first day to less than 1 minute before the end. My max bid was $1200. I was actually hoping I wouldn't win though. I'm glad I didn't as well. I found out that you can get a 135/2 in Canikon for $1K new...and used ones for $750. Makes the argument for a dual system arrangement better