What lens should Pentax make/remake?

Zubati Kit · 07-19-2009, 04:56 AM

10mm f4 superwide prime
FA24 f2
A*135mm f1.8
200mm f4 macro
FA* 250mm - 600mm

**Lowell Goudge** · 07-19-2009, 06:46 AM

I think to have a complete range again, like the A series or F Series, including mostly fast primes.

Some have pointed to the 100mm F2, 85mm F1.5 and 135mm F1.8, others have pointed to the 300 F2.8, and 600 F5.6.

What I would really like to see for wild life is a 300 F2.8 combined with 1.4x and 2x TCs explicitly designed to be optimum for that lens.

SDM or screw drive is not really important distinction, but should be selected based upon optical quality first. A good MF override clutch in the focusing is a necessity.

**Pål Jensen** · 07-19-2009, 06:59 AM

Originally posted by Jonson PL

A 18/2 would also be very sweet.

DA* 400mm f/4 or a 500mm f/4.5; would be very welcome.

A 500/4.5 will be very unpopular because it cannot be used with teleconverters while maintaining AF; it is too slow. The competition have 500/4 for a reason....

An 18/2 will be too expensive and frankly this speed is hardly needed in this focal lenght. Pentax did design an FA 18/2.8 that was shelved in the last minute. It even got a product number and could be ordered......

**Lowell Goudge** · 07-19-2009, 07:56 AM

Originally posted by Pål Jensen

A 500/4.5 will be very unpopular because it cannot be used with teleconverters while maintaining AF; it is too slow. The competition have 500/4 for a reason....

Sorry to disappoint you but this is within the limit of teleconverters, it would work with a 1.4x no problem, but even a 500F4 won't work with a 2x. Nothing will AF with an F8 lens.

There are lots of reports of people using the SMC 500 F4.5 with the 1.7x AF TC. I use the 1.7x on my 300 F4 and it works just fine, therefore the 1/2 stop imporvement by going to a 1.4x TC will offset the 1/3 stop between F4.5 and F4

MikePerham · 07-19-2009, 08:16 AM

Originally posted by ricosuave

they need to make an SDM version of this one.

11-16/2.8

I second that. Also a longer macro to replace the aging DFA lenses, perhaps a 70mm limited and a 135 to replace the excellent 200 macro from film days. Actually, I have always envied Nikon their 70-180 macro zoom so why not a 60-120 macro zoom.

**Pål Jensen** · 07-21-2009, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by Lowell Goudge

Sorry to disappoint you but this is within the limit of teleconverters,

No it isn't. Not a single AF system is specified for aperture slower than F:5.6. Max aperture of F:4 yields F:5.6 with 1.4X converter. The fact that an camera might still AF with a slower lens doesn't mean it works within the manufacturers specifications.

raymeedc · 07-21-2009, 04:06 PM

3 inch length 8 - 1000mm f:1.1 zoom with a foldout swiss army knife & cupholder would be nice.

Foolish Mortal · 07-21-2009, 04:30 PM

I'd love a:

DA Limited 28mm f/2.8 pancake
DA Limited 90mm f/2.8 pancake
DA* 24 f/1.4
DA* 33 f/1.4

PentHassyKon · 07-21-2009, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by raymeedc

3 inch length 8 - 1000mm f:1.1 zoom with a foldout swiss army knife & cupholder would be nice.

I don't think you'd want that feature.
You wouldn't be able to hand carry it on your plane trip

Andrew Faires · 07-21-2009, 05:21 PM

Well, for my personal wish-list, I'll take either a 10 or 11mm f/4 limited (without a petal hood which prevents the use of cokin-type filters), OR an 11-16 zoom in a DA* f/2.8 flavour.

However, I may just have to cave in and either get the sigma 10-20 or the Pentax 10-17 Fish-eye to cure my ever-increasing need for something wider than 14mm.

jackbullet · 07-21-2009, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by fs999

Since Sigma hesitates, why not a 150mm 2.8 macro... and a 50mm 1.8 more compact.

I agree. A 150mm macro is exactly what i want!!

gremlindesign · 07-21-2009, 07:14 PM

Remake:
FA 28-70mm f2.8 -firstly, its often called one of the nicest zoom lenses ever made. Secondly, 28-70 is a perfect portrait range on either digital or film, and only the 17-70 f4 covers that now.
FA 70-200mm f2.8 - a longer, better built, full frame alternative to the 50-135 f2.8
FA 85mm f1.4 though it'd be competition for the limiteds.

Make:
DA or DFA 50mm f1.7 - Pentax needs a really cheap, good standard prime to compete with Canon EF 50 f1.8 and the Nikon equivilent, which sell like hotcakes.
DFA 20, 24, or 28 F1.4 - I'd really like to have a really fast wide lens without 'resorting' to sigma. Pentax can surely do it and do it better.

alexeyga · 07-21-2009, 07:23 PM

I'll vouch for the ideal all-around zoom lens... 12-105mm/2.8ish (4 to be more realistic)... I'd marry one if it existed...

raymeedc · 07-21-2009, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by alexeyga

I'll vouch for the ideal all-around zoom lens... 12-105mm/2.8ish (4 to be more realistic)... I'd marry one if it existed...

Would that type of union be recognized in Canada? If not, you two could move to California..... I'm pretty sure you'd have no problem there.

yeatzee · 07-21-2009, 08:32 PM

So sad isn't it

stupid comifornia!

07-19-2009, 06:46 AM	#122
Lowell Goudge Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,888	Most of the A series or F series, but.... I think to have a complete range again, like the A series or F Series, including mostly fast primes. Some have pointed to the 100mm F2, 85mm F1.5 and 135mm F1.8, others have pointed to the 300 F2.8, and 600 F5.6. What I would really like to see for wild life is a 300 F2.8 combined with 1.4x and 2x TCs explicitly designed to be optimum for that lens. SDM or screw drive is not really important distinction, but should be selected based upon optical quality first. A good MF override clutch in the focusing is a necessity.

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07-19-2009, 04:56 AM	#121
Zubati Kit Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 113	10mm f4 superwide prime FA24 f2 A135mm f1.8 200mm f4 macro FA 250mm - 600mm

07-19-2009, 06:59 AM	#123
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	Originally posted by Jonson PL A 18/2 would also be very sweet. DA* 400mm f/4 or a 500mm f/4.5; would be very welcome. A 500/4.5 will be very unpopular because it cannot be used with teleconverters while maintaining AF; it is too slow. The competition have 500/4 for a reason.... An 18/2 will be too expensive and frankly this speed is hardly needed in this focal lenght. Pentax did design an FA 18/2.8 that was shelved in the last minute. It even got a product number and could be ordered......

07-19-2009, 07:56 AM	#124
Lowell Goudge Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,888	Originally posted by Pål Jensen A 500/4.5 will be very unpopular because it cannot be used with teleconverters while maintaining AF; it is too slow. The competition have 500/4 for a reason.... Sorry to disappoint you but this is within the limit of teleconverters, it would work with a 1.4x no problem, but even a 500F4 won't work with a 2x. Nothing will AF with an F8 lens. There are lots of reports of people using the SMC 500 F4.5 with the 1.7x AF TC. I use the 1.7x on my 300 F4 and it works just fine, therefore the 1/2 stop imporvement by going to a 1.4x TC will offset the 1/3 stop between F4.5 and F4

07-19-2009, 08:16 AM	#125
MikePerham Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Prince George, BC Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 642	Originally posted by ricosuave they need to make an SDM version of this one. 11-16/2.8 I second that. Also a longer macro to replace the aging DFA lenses, perhaps a 70mm limited and a 135 to replace the excellent 200 macro from film days. Actually, I have always envied Nikon their 70-180 macro zoom so why not a 60-120 macro zoom.

07-21-2009, 03:24 PM	#126
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	Originally posted by Lowell Goudge Sorry to disappoint you but this is within the limit of teleconverters, No it isn't. Not a single AF system is specified for aperture slower than F:5.6. Max aperture of F:4 yields F:5.6 with 1.4X converter. The fact that an camera might still AF with a slower lens doesn't mean it works within the manufacturers specifications.

07-21-2009, 04:06 PM	#127
raymeedc Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Brooklyn, New York Posts: 951	3 inch length 8 - 1000mm f:1.1 zoom with a foldout swiss army knife & cupholder would be nice.

07-21-2009, 04:30 PM	#128
Foolish Mortal Inactive Account Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 6	I'd love a: DA Limited 28mm f/2.8 pancake DA Limited 90mm f/2.8 pancake DA* 24 f/1.4 DA* 33 f/1.4

07-21-2009, 05:02 PM	#129
PentHassyKon Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 415	Originally posted by raymeedc 3 inch length 8 - 1000mm f:1.1 zoom with a foldout swiss army *knife* & cupholder would be nice. I don't think you'd want that feature. You wouldn't be able to hand carry it on your plane trip

07-21-2009, 05:21 PM	#130
Andrew Faires Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ontario Posts: 744	Well, for my personal wish-list, I'll take either a 10 or 11mm f/4 limited (without a petal hood which prevents the use of cokin-type filters), OR an 11-16 zoom in a DA* f/2.8 flavour. However, I may just have to cave in and either get the sigma 10-20 or the Pentax 10-17 Fish-eye to cure my ever-increasing need for something wider than 14mm.

07-21-2009, 06:31 PM	#131
jackbullet Inactive Account Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 57	Originally posted by fs999 Since Sigma hesitates, why not a 150mm 2.8 macro... and a 50mm 1.8 more compact. I agree. A 150mm macro is exactly what i want!!

07-21-2009, 07:14 PM	#132
gremlindesign New Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Halifax, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 22	Remake: FA 28-70mm f2.8 -firstly, its often called one of the nicest zoom lenses ever made. Secondly, 28-70 is a perfect portrait range on either digital or film, and only the 17-70 f4 covers that now. FA 70-200mm f2.8 - a longer, better built, full frame alternative to the 50-135 f2.8 FA 85mm f1.4 though it'd be competition for the limiteds. Make: DA or DFA 50mm f1.7 - Pentax needs a really cheap, good standard prime to compete with Canon EF 50 f1.8 and the Nikon equivilent, which sell like hotcakes. DFA 20, 24, or 28 F1.4 - I'd really like to have a really fast wide lens without 'resorting' to sigma. Pentax can surely do it and do it better.

07-21-2009, 07:23 PM	#133
alexeyga Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 838	I'll vouch for the ideal all-around zoom lens... 12-105mm/2.8ish (4 to be more realistic)... I'd marry one if it existed...

07-21-2009, 08:22 PM	#134
raymeedc Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Brooklyn, New York Posts: 951	Originally posted by alexeyga I'll vouch for the ideal all-around zoom lens... 12-105mm/2.8ish (4 to be more realistic)... I'd marry one if it existed... Would that type of union be recognized in Canada? If not, you two could move to California..... I'm pretty sure you'd have no problem there.

07-21-2009, 08:32 PM	#135
yeatzee Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Temecula Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,675	So sad isn't it stupid comifornia!