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I never was interested in getting one, and I'm still not interested. 4438.26%
I never was interested in getting one, but I am now. 65.22%
I was interested in getting one, but I am not interested anymore. 4135.65%
I was interested in getting one, and I am still going to get one. 1513.04%
I am hugely peeved about the price of this lens, and the price increases of the other lenses. 5547.83%
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03-22-2009, 06:20 PM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by augustmoon Quote
Sigma 100-300 is a terrific lens, and is very very sharp. I doubt that the Pentax will be any sharper. The Sigma has longer reach, which is important factor for getting a super tele zoom in the first place, and they are both F4, and the Sigma is tons cheaper. The Sigma FL matches up more closely with the 50-135 if you wanted to have better coverage. In the States you can pick up a 50-135 and the 100-300 for just around the price of the 60-250. I just don;t understand the Focal Length of the 60-250, and it being an F4, when Pentax already released the 50-135 at 2.8. Seems like they would go with a 100-whatever or something at 2.8 or something cheaper.
What he said - pretty much my sentiments on this lens. I just can't see why Pentax chose a zoom range of 60-250, with so much overlap with the DA* 50-135. 100-300mm makes much more sense to me. Now if it were an f2.8 lens I might be interested...

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just wait till you get the sigma price increases!

just wait till you get the sigma price increases!

sigma 100-300 is now 1200GBP, anticipated 60-250 price 800-900GBP (face-face conversation with UK pentax pro centre dealer )

IMO you need to wake up to the change in exchange rate over the past year. apr08 1GBP=200+YEN, mar09 1GBP=135YEN. That tells you why prices of japanese tech kit has risen recently and will continue to over the next few months. Unpleasant, but that's the economy.

for me the 60-100 end will be more useful than the 250-300 end due to the difference in FoV.

I hope they've got it sorted now, I'd rather see a damn good lens with limited supply than lots with variable quality.

I'm unsure whether people whingeing about the pentax lens really want one or are just trolling. With this much angst it should sell well !
03-22-2009, 09:18 PM   #18
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lol, based on voter's polls, is it cruel of me to get joy out of this company I otherwise have much hope for getting it right & triving, to in this case be getting what they had coming to them for 1st showing this in 2006 and only coming out w/it now, on the heals of a pretty badly knocked out'a whack show sample?

I mean, you couldn't have had someone more jazzed to get his, or more free w/his wallet and ready to get it... before last fall. That was the last straw. To add insult to injurly, those shots from that show samples that got so knocked out'a whack to produce those extreme ghosts... I asked but noone visiting shows has ever confirm to me that that has ever happened to another show sample over the many decades that lenses have been shown & handled @ past show...

...so, staying away for the foreseeable future. (plus, I need to get the K20D to make up for the loss of a stop of speed of this lens)
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QuoteOriginally posted by jamesk8752 Quote
Now if it were an f2.8 lens I might be interested...
or f/3.2 or f/3.5... All you about to say something about weight, can it; don't give a crap about the few ounces to perhaps a near pound that would add. And any comment about cost will just be a joke given the cost of this already.

The only hope this lens has is it be sharp as a razor and free of any CA & fringing off wide open @ both ends of the zoom & excellent contrast & color rendering (we've seen that from Codiac already) . Given how out'a whack the show sample was, gotta be proven this lens isn't a fragile piece of 'jewelry' (yes, words chosen are not accidental). Time -- and hopefully some eager reviewers -- will tell.

New readers, understand such negativity from me is not my norm (sarcasm, perhaps; but unabashed negativity, no). This lens's 'story' just exemplifies all that has [had?] been wrong w/Pentax's strategy & delivery over the recent years.

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Been quoted $2850 Oz for April delivery. Too steep for me. And I've been waiting since it was first announced. Great disappointment. I looked at a number of options but eventually went for the DA55-300. At one third the cost of Sigma's 100-300 F4 and a quarter of the DA*60-250 it was a no brainer in the end.
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QuoteOriginally posted by thePiRaTE!! Quote
The primary reasons I can see for Pentax to maintain the f4 aperture would be to continue with compact sizing and to manage price.
Kelly, the thing is, this lens is VERY BIG. If it were small, it would be a different matter, but it's not.

Here's a picture of the three DA* zooms, the 16-50mm, 50-135mm and the 60-250mm (from left to right):

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Wrong image?

QuoteOriginally posted by Miserere Quote
Kelly, the thing is, this lens is VERY BIG. If it were small, it would be a different matter, but it's not.

Here's a picture of the three DA* zooms, the 16-50mm, 50-135mm and the 60-250mm (from left to right):

Did you mean to say [DA*200, 300 and 60-250] or did you link the wrong image?
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QuoteOriginally posted by bladerunneruk Quote
just wait till you get the sigma price increases!

sigma 100-300 is now 1200GBP, anticipated 60-250 price 800-900GBP (face-face conversation with UK pentax pro centre dealer )

IMO you need to wake up to the change in exchange rate over the past year. apr08 1GBP=200+YEN, mar09 1GBP=135YEN. That tells you why prices of japanese tech kit has risen recently and will continue to over the next few months. Unpleasant, but that's the economy.

for me the 60-100 end will be more useful than the 250-300 end due to the difference in FoV.

I hope they've got it sorted now, I'd rather see a damn good lens with limited supply than lots with variable quality.

I'm unsure whether people whingeing about the pentax lens really want one or are just trolling. With this much angst it should sell well !

That is assuming Pentax does not have similar price increases by the time this thing is released. I was lucky to get my Sigma the week before the price increases I couldn't have afforded it afterwards.

It's also possible the price of the Sigma will return to a more reasonable price by the time the Pentax is available (surely no one really believes it's going to be next month?).

I do hope it's a brilliant lens though as it's in everyone's interest for it to be a quality product regardless of whether they buy it or not.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Miserere Quote
Kelly, the thing is, this lens is VERY BIG. If it were small, it would be a different matter, but it's not.
Well.. . maybe the additional material required for the extra size justifies the cost, hehe

QuoteOriginally posted by Matthew Quote
Did you mean to say [DA*200, 300 and 60-250] or did you link the wrong image?
It kind of proves his point better assuming the correct image is linked. Having said that, all these lenses are hand holdable, so it's not too damning I think. I'm pretty sure we'de find the 60-250 still a bit smaller than a classic 70-200/2.8. Of the newer Tamron and Sigma, I'm not sure, I'm a bit short on time atm to check.

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except the 60-250 extends to double the length
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Are we talking about the same lens?

QuoteOriginally posted by k100d Quote
except the 60-250 extends to double the length
That seems unlikely!
The picture of the DA* 200, 300 and 60-250 show that the later sits between the size of the first two but is narrower. It probably needs to be that long for the 250 mm end.
DA*s are weather-sealed.
All the ones I've seen don't change length at all (except DA*16-50). This is necessary or there would be a big pressure change inside the camera/lens every time it is zoomed or close focused. The result would be seals being blown out or sucked in and sucking dust or moisture, thus defeating the purpose.

The down side of weather-seals is that the focus and zoom capabilities of the lens require more complicated movements of lens groups, rather than just being able to move all elements together as most primes can for focusing. As a result the characteristics of the lens can change dramatically through its focal range and zoom range.
Even the DA*300 which is a relatively simple design has very different focal length when close focusing than when at full stretch.

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