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03-22-2009, 07:34 PM   #1
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Rediscover The 50mm Lens

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Good article - right up Pentaxians alley, methinks. --> Rediscover The 50mm Lens : The Joy And Excitement Of Subjective Photography


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03-22-2009, 07:55 PM   #2
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Good reading; articulates nicely why I enjoy my primes.
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50mm on film is about 31mm on APS so now I know why I like my FA31 so much....
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I've been shooting with a 50mm (on 135 film) for about 90% of my shots since November 2008.

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Makes me want that FA 35/2 even more... or maybe I should just start shooting more outdoors with my tak 35 thanks for sharing!
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Does this explain why both my K mount 35mm cameras have 50mm lenses mounted while the K10 has its front covered by the M28? Hmmmm


QuoteOriginally posted by lbenac Quote
50mm on film is about 31mm on APS so now I know why I like my FA31 so much....
If I could have one lens, that would be it
03-22-2009, 10:37 PM   #7
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50mm perspective is natural to the eyes. I collect 50mm lenses to shoot images
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Yup, 50 mm, or 35mm on digital is very natural to eye and very easy to vizualize the photograph. I got my FA35 about a month ago and am absolutely mesmerized by its quality.

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And also explains why I like the FA28mm as well (similar to the 43mm on film).
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QuoteOriginally posted by lbenac Quote
50mm on film is about 31mm on APS so now I know why I like my FA31 so much....
add another vote 31...
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The Mystery Of The Normal View

QuoteOriginally posted by ryan s Quote
Does this explain why both my K mount 35mm cameras have 50mm lenses mounted while the K10 has its front covered by the M28?
QuoteOriginally posted by legacyb4 Quote
And also explains why I like the FA28mm as well (similar to the 43mm on film).
This is true for me as well: 28mm on digital affords the best, most natural field of view in the resulting shot. 24mm is a bit too distorted, 35mm is too pinched.

As we know 28mm equates mathematically to 43mm on film.

BUT.

When looking through the viewfinder, 43mm presents the most natural view to the eye. This is easily tested by moving your view from the viewfinder to the world outside the camera. There is no need to adjust your focus or eye muscles. The two are in accord. (And yes, 50mm is slightly off - Pentax are the only photographic company in history to get this detail right.)

Here is the clincher: this is true on digital as well!

How can 43mm be the most natural "eye view" on film and digital when for the resulting picture 43mm on film is matched by 28mm on digital?

Do all our cameras have viewfinders modeled on film, which are in fact not appropriate any more for digital "cropped" sensors? Has no-one else noticed this? Am I going mad?
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You are not going mad Robin, this unrecognised fact has been noticed before and written about:

Why 40mm

That is why your investigation of 28mm Vivitars was so interesting and timely.
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I find that I'm loving my K30mm f/2.8 more and more, because of it's relative focal length on APS-C (45mm at 1.5 crop factor, 48mm at 1.6). It feels very natural to me when shooting, and now that I have a KatzEye I'm not a chimp-a-holic checking focus on every shot.

I"ve read the two articles mentioned here, and find them very freeing in a sense- to move past the technicalities of photography (which are important to ground yourself in so you have an idea of how to approach a shot) and the gear you use, to get closer to capturing then creating images in post-production that are part of your artistic vision.

Of course this all takes time, and constant practise. But what a joy of discovery!

In my opinion, I think the digital photography era has given us so many advantages- the ability to post-process to our hearts content with instant feedback in a non-destructive fashion. I've been a graphic designer/artist for 10 years, so I know the digital workflow and ways to create art electronically, but only the last 2 years have I gotten back into photography.

Also I feel that one aspect of photography that I've read about in many articles is being lost in a sense- the art of post processing, which was developing techniques in the past. I try and approach post processing in the manner of film processing, but with all the advantages to create images in seconds that would have taken hours if not days with film!

I have a feeling that everyone uses their digital camera- point and shoot to DSLR- to capture an image, and because it's "digital" they feel that image should be perfect coming off the camera, representing everything they want it to. Of course not everybody shoots photos for art, but I still feel that everyone thinks "hey, this camera is a modern digital camera, I should get amazing stunning photos when I download them to my computer!"

I know most Pentaxians here agree that this isn't the case- some post can always help out an image. This can also lead to endless tweaking and experimenting, and sometimes the shot is just fantastic off the camera! I just think "hey, we have all these great tools- I'm going to use them!"

Enough of my rant, sorry to go off topic. 50mm and APS-C equivilent focal lengths are a true joy to work with!

BTW- are the K series digitals 1.5x crop or 1.6x?
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BTW- are the K series digitals 1.5x crop or 1.6x?
they are all 1.5x
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QuoteOriginally posted by Arjay Bee Quote
You are not going mad Robin, this unrecognised fact has been noticed before and written about:

Why 40mm

That is why your investigation of 28mm Vivitars was so interesting and timely.
A good article like all of them on that essential site. But it doesn't really explain the film-digital focal length paradox I am experiencing. Maybe it's because it's been so long since I shot film i really don't remember.
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