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03-25-2009, 06:16 PM   #1
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Which kit lens with a K200D? My head hurts...

I'm hoping someone can please help me make up my mind, I can't make a decision...

I'm upgrading from a K100D Super to a K200D. I'm selling my Sigma 18-55mm kit lens with the K100D and keeping my Sigma 70-300mm lens for the new camera.

Now my problem is I can't decide whether to buy a K200D with a Pentax 18-55mm kit lens which sells for about AU$790 or get it instead with a Sigma 18-200mm for about AU$980.

I know Pentax make a better lens, however after reading reviews on this particular kit lens it's meant to be only slightly better than the Sigma 18-200mm which is more convenient (travel, not changing lenses as much etc.)

Can anyone give me advice on what to do? It's good being able to read reviews, but nowhere near as good hearing from someone who has these lenses.

03-26-2009, 09:04 AM   #2
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FWIW, here's what I suggest.

Buy the 18-55 kit. Reasoning: the 18-55 is a good, cheap, reliable lens, so you'll be covered in that very useful focal range. If you want the 18-200 or one of the other superzooms too, buy that separately. The Pentax 18-250 at least is kind of finicky, based on my experience and that of others, and if you don't like the superzoom or have to screw around getting it fixed/adjusted, you still have a wide-angle.

The 18-200 has only one review in the lens review database, sadly.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Desi Quote
I'm upgrading from a K100D Super to a K200D. I'm selling my Sigma 18-55mm kit lens with the K100D and keeping my Sigma 70-300mm lens for the new camera.

Now my problem is I can't decide whether to buy a K200D with a Pentax 18-55mm kit lens which sells for about AU$790 or get it instead with a Sigma 18-200mm for about AU$980.
Buy a K200D with a DA 16-45mm F4.0. I have never used the so-called superzooms, but from what I read, they are not "super" at the long end without being set at infinity. Cover the range between 45mm and 70mm with a 55mm SMC Takumar, adding to it the price of a M42 screwmount converter. I have an SMCP-M 50mm f1.4 left over from history, leaving the intermediate range between 50-70mm uncovered without difficulty. My advice is to compensate with photographic skill.
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Try to make a deal for the K200D with the DA 16-45/4.0 - I did that and I'm not regretting it. The only drawback with the 16-45 is if you plan to use it as a party lens with the built in flash (at the wide end). Due to the reverse zoom design, you will have a shadow from the lens at the wide end. But that is nothing that can't be resolved (= reason to by a decent flash unit and/or some nice wide angle primes).

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Thanks everyone, after doing some more reading on different lenses I'm leaning towards buying the k200d with pentax 18-55 lens and trying to get hold of a second hand pentax 50mm 1.7 prime. I usually do a lot of low light indoors and portrait photography and this lens seems to be a good one to go for? When I upgrade (to another pentax!) in the future I can resell the camera with the kit lens. I think I'm making the right decision, I want to build up my lens collection over time but for now, while I'm still learning, I want a great standard lens.
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not meaning to muddy the LBA waters at all but why not look at either the Sigma or the Pentax 17-70 offerings? both these lens will give you total coverage from 17-300mm with your lens instead of a gap between 50-70mm? I own the sigma and think its a great alternative to the kit lens
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For the $200 difference...

QuoteOriginally posted by Desi Quote
I'm hoping someone can please help me make up my mind, I can't make a decision...

I'm upgrading from a K100D Super to a K200D. I'm selling my Sigma 18-55mm kit lens with the K100D and keeping my Sigma 70-300mm lens for the new camera.

Now my problem is I can't decide whether to buy a K200D with a Pentax 18-55mm kit lens which sells for about AU$790 or get it instead with a Sigma 18-200mm for about AU$980.

I know Pentax make a better lens, however after reading reviews on this particular kit lens it's meant to be only slightly better than the Sigma 18-200mm which is more convenient (travel, not changing lenses as much etc.)

Can anyone give me advice on what to do? It's good being able to read reviews, but nowhere near as good hearing from someone who has these lenses.
I'd sell both Sigma's and would get the two Pentax kit lenses - DA 18-55II and the DA 55-200 - or get the 55-300 if you can afford it; fabulous little things. You might even have enough for the new small flash unit. Here's a nice scenic shot on one rare sunny day in Vancouver recently, taken with the 18-55 II and a Pentax SMC polarizer:



Great little lens, take it everywhere, and I own an FA* 28-70 F2.8 that I can't justify lugging around anymore with this little gem around.

Cheers,
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oh-oh, I feel my headache returning... just when I thought I had my mind made up

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well whatever you do dont try out LTD or FA primes or you'll have to have them all
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QuoteOriginally posted by Desi Quote
oh-oh, I feel my headache returning... just when I thought I had my mind made up
The only way to cure an LBA headache is to buy two lenses and call me in the morning...
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QuoteOriginally posted by rpriedhorsky Quote

The 18-200 has only one review in the lens review database, sadly.
This zoom is really a rebadge of tamron counterpart. I doubt people would buy the zoom for the price pentax commands.
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Quite frankly Desi, you need none of our opinions, clear your head and trust your instincts. Go for what you feel is the best choice. Whatever lens you get you will have fun with, even if it has the optical qualities of the bottom of a Coke bottle, so why kill the fun by procrastinating and having to wade through all the pontificating guff we are offering you.
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Thanks everyone! I'm following xjjohnno's advice and going with my instincts. I've been reading so much about lenses the last few weeks it got a bit overwhelming and confusing. I need to just make a decision and start taking LOTS of photos, then I'll figure out what I want and need in my collection. It's been great to hear which lenses you rate and it's given me a lot to think about and look out for. I've found somewhere to get a cheap, new k200d body and then I'm going to put my money towards a lens I really want, instead of buying the camera with a kit lens I might not use as much. Head is clearing, headache disappearing...
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