Originally posted by soccerjoe5 "I just felt like letting that out and I want to tell new people that a kit lens, or WHATEVER lens, Limited or not, is perfectly fine as long as you get the photos YOU want."
I am glad you started this discussion and understand you argument. I just happen to disagree with it after exploring the logic. To wit:
A. Any lens is good so long as you get your shots
B. But you can't get your shots without a particular lens, therefore
C. Any lens is
not good enough
I think the kit lens can take great shots, no doubt. Any lens can. Stating this is a truism that gets us no further. The problem is that the kit lens will also lose many shots. Worse, it simply doesn't demonstrate the range of expression possible with an SLR. This is evident by how quickly newcomers get frustrated with it and come here asking for help.
I would prefer that the FA50 came with the body as the default kit. That would show Pentax
really is committed to photography, as they keep saying. They wouldn't just be following the pack. Supplying a fast prime would send a strong signal.
Being "limited" to a given focal length still permits one to use all the techniques of photography and to shoot in all types of light. Being limited in aperture does not. Sure people will still want to augment their initial kit prime, but not replace it and throw it in the bin. (When have I ever used the kit since I replaced it? Never.) That's a big difference.
Certainly one needs more than one focal length eventually, but in the meantime lots of great shots can be taken, and many of the limitations of a prime can be overcome by shifting perspective. But it's impossible to fake three stops more light.
Originally posted by Digitalis these days I use a Pentax K 50mm f/1.2 - I use it more than I use the FA31 or the FA77 because of it's sheer versatility- and it's spectacular resolution at wider apertures.
I use the Vivitar/Komine 28/2, K50/1.2 and FA77/1.8 (with optional diopter lens) in much the same way as I might have in film days.
plus ça change.