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05-13-2009, 03:09 AM   #1
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Industar 50mm

Anybody have one of these? I'm looking for opinions.

05-13-2009, 05:27 AM   #2
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Hi,

I had one (sold it last month). Nice little lens, but not very fast (f3,5 if I remember correctly) and the use of aperture and focus ring takes some getting used to.
All in all, it's more a gimmick I'd say. But if you are really into MF lenses and (Russian) primes, it's worth a try. But imho it's in no way a 'Russian limited' as the Jupiter 9 (f2 85mm) can be described.
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I have two of them.
50-2 50mm/f3.5 and 61L/Z 50mm/f2.8 (Almost macro/closeup).
And i' m willing to sell them both.
As well as m39 mount chrome finish Industar-26m 50/2.8 in pretty bad shape.

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05-13-2009, 09:24 AM   #4
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I also have two different versions (imgs)

The little russian pancake... 50mm 3.5. As mentioned it is a tiny thing and my fingers got a bit confused when focusing at first... but a fun lense to have to play with.
These are from my first tests with it... then my Tair 135 2.8 came in and it has not really left my camera except to test the other Industair...

Industar 50 3.5 pancake








with a macro adaptor




And now some with my Industar 61 50mm 2.8 almost macro lens... (I like this one better than my Pentax M-50 F4 macro) for the F2.8

Industar 61 50 2.8







The pancake is fun and for 20 bucks it is not a big expense to have a little pancake in your bag if you do not have the pentax pancakes...

The 61 is a nice lens IMHO.


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I'd say the 61 is a VERY good lens.....especially in your hands, Gus.
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But im still puzzled how does he get such contrasty and rich images with those old lenses. Most of then don't even have multi coating.. just some coating..maybe.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ytterbium Quote
But im still puzzled how does he get such contrasty and rich images with those old lenses. Most of then don't even have multi coating.. just some coating..maybe.
I've got the Industar-50-2 which is 50mm f3.5 Tessar. I saw a discussion on mflenses and some really nice examples of using it with extension tubes. So I tried it with tubes and a home made hood.



For a macro you are not likely to get any problems with flare, so I don't think multi-coating is likely to make much difference. I'm no lens formula expert (I would love to learn more!), but the Tessar design (four elements in three groups) is simple which I guess is one of its strengths. Focussing is a case of moving the whole assembly towards or away from the sensor/film, so I guess tubes just extend the concept.

As Gus says, the problem with the 50-2 is the tiny aperture ring with no detente (continuous apertures) and no A/M switch. As a consequence it is inpractical to focus wide open and then stop down since you do not know what you are stopping down to. And when you stop down you tend to move the focus ring. For the price, the Industar-50-2 is a nice lens to play with and it gives good results, especially as a macro. But it is not practical.

I also have a SMC-M Macro 50/4 which I believe is the same Tessar - 4 elements in 3 groups - design. It produces excellent results, and is far more practical. I am not sure if the SMC makes much of a difference when it is used as a macro (in this case, a maximum magnification of 1:2, but Pentax still give it the "Macro" moniker).

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QuoteOriginally posted by Igilligan Quote
The little russian pancake... 50mm 3.5. As mentioned it is a tiny thing and my fingers got a bit confused when focusing at first... but a fun lense to have to play with.
These are from my first tests with it... then my Tair 135 2.8 came in and it has not really left my camera except to test the other Industair...
...
The pancake is fun and for 20 bucks it is now big expense to have a little pancake in your bag if you do not have the pentax pancakes...

The 61 is a nice lens IMHO.
wow Gus, those are very impressive photos! great work, sir.
are you tellin' me you took those first 6 shots with a $20 lens??

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QuoteOriginally posted by maxwell1295 Quote
I'd say the 61 is a VERY good lens.....especially in your hands, Gus.
You are much too kind... I love the feel of most of these old russian lenses this one is especially nice.

QuoteOriginally posted by ytterbium Quote
But im still puzzled how does he get such contrasty and rich images with those old lenses. Most of then don't even have multi coating.. just some coating..maybe.
I am not doing anything special. The industar 61 actually is mulit coated I believe. But you can get great looks from many of the old (un-coated) lenses if you are in the right light. (and each one has 'light' that it likes) Some love the sun others the shade..

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wow Gus, those are very impressive photos! great work, sir.
are you tellin' me you took those first 6 shots with a $20 lens??
Thanks Mike, it was actually 15 ...

Have you seen one of these little russian pancakes? It makes the DA 40 look like monster. A fun lens to play with and takes ok pics...
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QuoteOriginally posted by Igilligan Quote
Thanks Mike, it was actually 15 ...
Showoff!!! You really should not make the rest of us feel bad.
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yeah, i agree.
Gus, ya had me at $20.
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Sorry Mike and Bill

It was a bit of a ****** thing to say... I can see how it might BUG you...

HUH? I typed in w a n k e r and I got the ******....~! when did that start happening? Can I say crappy without getting censored?

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QuoteOriginally posted by Steve Beswick Quote
Anybody have one of these? I'm looking for opinions.
Speaking of 50mm lenses, Since they closed the post on the 50mm 1:1.4 you were selling.... I will say here:

Thanks for selling me the 50mm 1:1.4 lens. Can't wait to try it out!
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