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06-10-2009, 12:39 AM   #1
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Gimme Somethin Wide!

I have been using my K100 and the couple of lenses for a couple years now and the most frustrating thing for me is the 1.5x crop factor.
During my film days (using my trusted ME Super and later Nikon FA [sorry everyone]) my lens of choice was my trusted Tamron 24mm f2.5. I still have and use that lens but it is not a 24mm anymore.
Would any of you good Pentaxians be able to suggest my best route to wide angle. I of course have the 18-55mm but it doesn’t go wide enough and of course taking a few steps backwards is not the same.
Originally I was set on the Sigma 10-20 but I hesitated (waiting for the arrival of Tamron’s 10-24 and the price went up. Now I am not so sure there are so many contenders. This is my list and I am kind of hoping that your opinions will be forthcoming. (budget is a major factor)
Pentax SMC DA 14mm f2.8
Pentax SMC DA 16-45mm f4
Sigma 10-20mm (Non HSM)
Tamron SP10-24mm
Here are some of my thoughts on the above list.
The DA14 is in some ways (for a fixed) a little wider than I am used to
The DA 16-45 gets the angle of view that I hark after but no wider
The Sigma – I hear horror stories about quality variation from lens to lens
And the Tamron is new and I have not heard much about its abilities but seems to cover and do everything. ( I like Tamron I have a 135mm f2.5, the 24mm [both adaptall] plus a AF70-300)
Leading contenders for me at the moment are the two Pentax lenses but I would value input from uses who have experience. So in advance thanks............................

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DA 14mm f2.8 is decent enough. Just chunky to hold and prone to flare. Bokeh neutral.




Da 15mm ltd is sharp small and compact. I prefer this lens for travel and hiking. Decent lens to own.





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06-10-2009, 02:09 AM   #3
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I have Sigma 10-20 and I'm happy with it. I don't think there is better budget ultrawide out there. I've read the same horror stories as you, but I didn't experience any of the problems related with this lens. Once you get the hang of ultrawide perspective (and possible perspective distortions associated with it) Sigma 10-20 is very rewarding lens.
Not the sharpest beast in the bag but you can't beat it for the price...

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Da 12-24

I use my DA 12-24 for last 3 years. It is always with me on my trips: Antarctica, Africa, India, anywhere. Great construction, very reliable with strong light in front.

just look here https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/31919-da-12-24-shots-anyone.html

or in my gallery Pentax SMC DA 12-24mm f4.0 Photo Gallery by Piotr Sobolewski at pbase.com

St.Andrews Bay on South Georgia and King pinguins.
Pentax K10D ,Pentax smc P-DA 12-24mm f/4 ED AL [IF]
1/400s f/9.0 at 14.0mm iso100


Once I checked it against Sigma 10-20 and in my opinion Pentax is better - much more sharper.

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Have you checked the lens review database?

Don't bother too much with peoples scores but the opinions written in the reviews can be pretty helpful.

I have the DA14 and love it but it is a large lens.
If you don't need the f2.8, then the 15 might be better for you (closer to your 24mm equiv). I certainly wish that the DA14 was that compact. I also wish it had some weather seals as it would suit the lens build.

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Da 12-24/4.

I second Piotr's recommendation of the DA 12-24. This is one great lens. The IQ is right up there with primes, and you have a whole raft of focal lengths. I have DxO software, so even the slight vignetting and distortion disappear in my standard post processing flow.

You don't even need DxO with the lens, by the way, I am just a bit anal, and had $150 to spare.
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Yep, the 12-24 is an excellent focal length, and I use it far more than I thought I would when I bought it. Landscape, architectural, street, car shows, etc.
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QuoteOriginally posted by roentarre Quote
DA 14mm f2.8 is decent enough. Just chunky to hold and prone to flare. Bokeh neutral.




Da 15mm ltd is sharp small and compact. I prefer this lens for travel and hiking. Decent lens to own.





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Wow that is a beautiful shot from the DA 15 mm.

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QuoteOriginally posted by roentarre Quote
Da 15mm ltd is sharp small and compact. I prefer this lens for travel and hiking. Decent lens to own.
Everyone has their own rules and priorities... Although, it's definitely "not good" that there isn't anything (at least moderately) wide and fast in the Pentax lineup, except for the DA 14. That's one of the reasons why I have a couple of Sigma lenses for the Pentax mount--size isn't an issue for me. Although, on film, FA limited 31mm f/1.8 is moderately wide... With a full frame Pentax DSLR (in two years or so), the FA limiteds will make a killer kit.
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QuoteOriginally posted by asdf Quote
Everyone has their own rules and priorities... Although, it's definitely "not good" that there isn't anything (at least moderately) wide and fast in the Pentax lineup, except for the DA 14. That's one of the reasons why I have a couple of Sigma lenses for the Pentax mount--size isn't an issue for me. Although, on film, FA limited 31mm f/1.8 is moderately wide... With a full frame Pentax DSLR (in two years or so), the FA limiteds will make a killer kit.
My kingdom for an FA16 limited... wish they would consider.
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The 12-24mm is on my wish list too...but I'm still really happy with the 16-45 f4.

Tha 16-45 is a real good walkaround lens and at a very good price- for the price of the 12-24mm I bought the 16-45 and a FA50 1.4.

The 16-45 is a sharp lens at 16mm, really really sharp in the mid range and if you stop it down to f9-that's when it gives you prime quality pictures.

This one is at 16mm f9:



and this one is at 21mm f9:



Both were taken with a K200d and a Pro1 digital polarizer. Both were accepted by the PPG.

I love this lens it's on my camera almost all the time. It's soft at the 45mm end though.

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