Just got my Helios-44K-4!

Igilligan · 06-17-2009, 12:48 PM

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That first shot of the flower... wow.

It does seem to have a different OOF look to it. Similar in the close shots but definitely diff in the long shots.

Very nice first series from it... you got me convinced I need a third one!!!!

Where did you get the K mount version from? Do you have any pics of it?

And a link to the seller if it is an ebay one!

I am supposed to be the one driving other to buy these things! Not the other way around

deadwolfbones · 06-17-2009, 12:56 PM

Well, there's one available right now here: Helios-44K-4 2/58 standart lens Pentax - eBay (item 170327068105 end time Jun-29-09 06:13:25 PDT)

(I'd ask about the caps, though. Also, mine was $20 cheaper.)

I got mine from this guy: eBay My World - ruscamera

I don't have any pics of mine at the moment... could get some tonight, but the first link has some decent ones, so look there.

farfisa · 06-17-2009, 01:07 PM

Beautiful shots, man!

Very Russian bokeh, if I may say! Great look to it... I checked eBay this morning after scrolling down to those tiger lilies

Come on! $75 shipped? It's almost cheaper than not buying it!

estudleon · 06-17-2009, 04:26 PM

I have two helios lenses :

1- helios 44-3, of 1986, 8 blades;
2- helios 44M-7, of 1993, 6 blades.

They are the last in pre-set and in automatic versions.

The images (they are in the laboratory for scaning), in slides, are almost the same. I can't find any differences (except in colors, perhaps by the coated of each lens).

6 and 8 blades? Almost the same bokeh in normals pics.

Had you any experience with the 44-3 and/or 44M-7?

Thanks.

deadwolfbones · 06-17-2009, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by estudleon

I have two helios lenses :

1- helios 44-3, of 1986, 8 blades;
2- helios 44M-7, of 1993, 6 blades.

They are the last in pre-set and in automatic versions.

The images (they are in the laboratory for scaning), in slides, are almost the same. I can't find any differences (except in colors, perhaps by the coated of each lens).

6 and 8 blades? Almost the same bokeh in normals pics.

Had you any experience with the 44-3 and/or 44M-7?

Thanks.

Alas, no... I only have the 44M and 44K-4. :ugh:

ogl · 06-17-2009, 09:49 PM

Fantastic shots!!! My Helios 44-2 was far behind.

ogl · 06-17-2009, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by estudleon

I have two helios lenses :

1- helios 44-3, of 1986, 8 blades;
2- helios 44M-7, of 1993, 6 blades.

They are the last in pre-set and in automatic versions.

The images (they are in the laboratory for scaning), in slides, are almost the same. I can't find any differences (except in colors, perhaps by the coated of each lens).

6 and 8 blades? Almost the same bokeh in normals pics.

Had you any experience with the 44-3 and/or 44M-7?

Thanks.

Helios 44-3 is very rare lens. 8 blades. Developed and made by
BelOMA.Welcome to the web-site
44-3 has multilayer coating with tints of green.

It's not classical Helios of KMZ (Krasnogorsky Zavod)

Krasnogorsky Zavod -- ÍÒÖ -- Àðõèâ -- Îáúåêòèâû Ãåëèîñ-44

All last versions of Helios-44M(K)-4, -5, -6, -7 were with 6 blades.

Helios was made under base of Biotar 2/58 (Carl Zeiss Jena).

Helios 44M(K)-4 has one of the best colour rendition and coating.

The best resolution:
1. 44M-7
2. 44M-6
3. 44K-4
4. 44M-5 (44M-4)

Last edited by ogl; 06-17-2009 at 10:05 PM.

figmental1978 · 06-17-2009, 10:28 PM

I just sold off my 44-2 (which was very sharp) to get a 44k-4, hopefully soon. Great photos by the way.

deadwolfbones · 06-17-2009, 11:04 PM

Thanks for the info, ogl!

ogl · 06-17-2009, 11:19 PM

BelOMA. MS PELENG A Wide Angle Lens

there is interesting lens - Peleng 17/2.8 here. but it's hard to say if it could be ordered.

estudleon · 06-18-2009, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by deadwolfbones

Thanks for the info, ogl!

Thanks ogl!!

estudleon · 06-18-2009, 03:14 PM

hELIOS 44-3 WITH TWO FIRST NUMBERS 86, CAN'T BE USED IN M42 WITHOUT LOSS INFINITE. ONLY USE IN ZENITH CAMERAS WITH INFINITE.

debasercl · 06-22-2009, 01:04 PM

Great lens, nice pictures!
this weekend i went to a flea market a found a lens between some toys, i asked how much for it and payed 4 dollars.... it was the same Helios 44k-4, now im so happy!

i didn't knew anything of this lens until i read this topic, it had some dust, but now is clean and clear.
I tested it last night and i'm really impresed with it, i'll try post some pictures soon.

pd: sorry for my english

FotoPete · 06-22-2009, 01:19 PM

haha congrats on the recent acquisitions guys! I've had this lens for a while and it never fails to impress.

estudleon · 06-22-2009, 01:41 PM

En theory the 44K4 is sharpest than the M44 (see Krasnogorsky Zavod -- ÍÒÖ -- Àðõèâ -- Îáúåêòèâû Ãåëèîñ-44).

But in the real world I can´t find differences between them.

Only the 44M-7 seems to be more contrast and resolution power.

06-17-2009, 12:48 PM	#16
Igilligan Guest	Ok ok... Staff note: This post may contain affiliate links, which means Pentax Forums may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. If you would like to support the forum directly, you may also make a donation here. That first shot of the flower... wow. It does seem to have a different OOF look to it. Similar in the close shots but definitely diff in the long shots. Very nice first series from it... you got me convinced I need a third one!!!! Where did you get the K mount version from? Do you have any pics of it? And a link to the seller if it is an ebay one! I am supposed to be the one driving other to buy these things! Not the other way around

06-17-2009, 09:49 PM	#21
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Fantastic shots!!! My Helios 44-2 was far behind. Last edited by ogl; 06-17-2009 at 10:00 PM.

06-17-2009, 11:19 PM	#25
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	BelOMA. MS PELENG A Wide Angle Lens there is interesting lens - Peleng 17/2.8 here. but it's hard to say if it could be ordered. Last edited by ogl; 06-23-2009 at 08:32 AM.

06-22-2009, 01:04 PM	#28
debasercl Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 51	Great lens, nice pictures! this weekend i went to a flea market a found a lens between some toys, i asked how much for it and payed 4 dollars.... it was the same Helios 44k-4, now im so happy! i didn't knew anything of this lens until i read this topic, it had some dust, but now is clean and clear. I tested it last night and i'm really impresed with it, i'll try post some pictures soon. pd: sorry for my english Last edited by debasercl; 06-22-2009 at 05:02 PM.

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06-17-2009, 12:56 PM	#17
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Crescenta, CA Posts: 7,450 Original Poster	Well, there's one available right now here: Helios-44K-4 2/58 standart lens Pentax - eBay (item 170327068105 end time Jun-29-09 06:13:25 PDT) (I'd ask about the caps, though. Also, mine was $20 cheaper.) I got mine from this guy: eBay My World - ruscamera I don't have any pics of mine at the moment... could get some tonight, but the first link has some decent ones, so look there.

06-17-2009, 01:07 PM	#18
farfisa Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,274	Beautiful shots, man! Very Russian bokeh, if I may say! Great look to it... I checked eBay this morning after scrolling down to those tiger lilies Come on! $75 shipped? It's almost cheaper than not buying it!

06-17-2009, 04:26 PM	#19
estudleon Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 228	I have two helios lenses : 1- helios 44-3, of 1986, 8 blades; 2- helios 44M-7, of 1993, 6 blades. They are the last in pre-set and in automatic versions. The images (they are in the laboratory for scaning), in slides, are almost the same. I can't find any differences (except in colors, perhaps by the coated of each lens). 6 and 8 blades? Almost the same bokeh in normals pics. Had you any experience with the 44-3 and/or 44M-7? Thanks.

06-17-2009, 09:36 PM	#20
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Crescenta, CA Posts: 7,450 Original Poster	Originally posted by estudleon I have two helios lenses : 1- helios 44-3, of 1986, 8 blades; 2- helios 44M-7, of 1993, 6 blades. They are the last in pre-set and in automatic versions. The images (they are in the laboratory for scaning), in slides, are almost the same. I can't find any differences (except in colors, perhaps by the coated of each lens). 6 and 8 blades? Almost the same bokeh in normals pics. Had you any experience with the 44-3 and/or 44M-7? Thanks. Alas, no... I only have the 44M and 44K-4. :ugh:

06-17-2009, 10:00 PM	#22
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by estudleon I have two helios lenses : 1- helios 44-3, of 1986, 8 blades; 2- helios 44M-7, of 1993, 6 blades. They are the last in pre-set and in automatic versions. The images (they are in the laboratory for scaning), in slides, are almost the same. I can't find any differences (except in colors, perhaps by the coated of each lens). 6 and 8 blades? Almost the same bokeh in normals pics. Had you any experience with the 44-3 and/or 44M-7? Thanks. Helios 44-3 is very rare lens. 8 blades. Developed and made by BelOMA.Welcome to the web-site 44-3 has multilayer coating with tints of green. It's not classical Helios of KMZ (Krasnogorsky Zavod) Krasnogorsky Zavod -- ÍÒÖ -- Àðõèâ -- Îáúåêòèâû Ãåëèîñ-44 All last versions of Helios-44M(K)-4, -5, -6, -7 were with 6 blades. Helios was made under base of Biotar 2/58 (Carl Zeiss Jena). Helios 44M(K)-4 has one of the best colour rendition and coating. The best resolution: 1. 44M-7 2. 44M-6 3. 44K-4 4. 44M-5 (44M-4) Last edited by ogl; 06-17-2009 at 10:05 PM.

06-17-2009, 10:28 PM	#23
figmental1978 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 789	I just sold off my 44-2 (which was very sharp) to get a 44k-4, hopefully soon. Great photos by the way.

06-17-2009, 11:04 PM	#24
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Crescenta, CA Posts: 7,450 Original Poster	Thanks for the info, ogl!

06-18-2009, 01:55 PM	#26
estudleon Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 228	Originally posted by deadwolfbones Thanks for the info, ogl! Thanks ogl!!

06-18-2009, 03:14 PM	#27
estudleon Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 228	hELIOS 44-3 WITH TWO FIRST NUMBERS 86, CAN'T BE USED IN M42 WITHOUT LOSS INFINITE. ONLY USE IN ZENITH CAMERAS WITH INFINITE.

06-22-2009, 01:19 PM	#29
FotoPete Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,774	haha congrats on the recent acquisitions guys! I've had this lens for a while and it never fails to impress.

06-22-2009, 01:41 PM	#30
estudleon Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 228	En theory the 44K4 is sharpest than the M44 (see Krasnogorsky Zavod -- ÍÒÖ -- Àðõèâ -- Îáúåêòèâû Ãåëèîñ-44). But in the real world I can´t find differences between them. Only the 44M-7 seems to be more contrast and resolution power.