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06-28-2009, 04:22 PM   #16
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Are they selling wifes in the general talk forum???
I better head over there, been single too long!



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Gentlemen--
If you can't quite afford the 600, take a look at this one:

KEH Camera: Pentax Auto Focus - Fixed Focal Lengths - 300 F2.8 SMC FA ED INTERNAL FOCUS (43 DROP-IN) WITH FILTERS WITH HOOD, CAPS, CASE, 35MM SLR AUTO FOCUS TELEPHOTO LENS

As for selling off various family members, I wouldn't recommend it, as you will almost certainly develop seller's remorse, sooner or later.

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QuoteOriginally posted by hwblanks Quote
Gentlemen--
If you can't quite afford the 600, take a look at this one:

KEH Camera: Pentax Auto Focus - Fixed Focal Lengths - 300 F2.8 SMC FA ED INTERNAL FOCUS (43 DROP-IN) WITH FILTERS WITH HOOD, CAPS, CASE, 35MM SLR AUTO FOCUS TELEPHOTO LENS

As for selling off various family members, I wouldn't recommend it, as you will almost certainly develop seller's remorse, sooner or later.

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and to think I almost sold mine for $1000 less than that
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About the price of the FA600, why to buy one when for less we can get a 400mm f5.6 and a 40d from canon ? (will work great)

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About the price of the FA600, why to buy one when for less we can get a 400mm f5.6 and a 40d from canon ? (will work great)
Because I wanted the 600mm f4 on my Pentax cameras.
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Because I wanted the 600mm f4 on my Pentax cameras.
Well, me two but, then my wife just made a reallity check on me, "get a canon 40D plus 400mm f5.6". "Problem" is, we save a ton of money like that.....
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So, how much for the wife?
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Meland/Ron/Peter: we are approaching "General Talk" territory here...

More like the "Marketplace" I think
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QuoteOriginally posted by netuser Quote
Well, me two but, then my wife just made a reallity check on me, "get a canon 40D plus 400mm f5.6". "Problem" is, we save a ton of money like that.....
My reality check was my wife wanted a master bath renovation and I wanted a 600 f4. She now has a new bath and I have my lens. For me, money wasn’t the driving factor, my wife’s happiness is - (and mine as well).

Edit: Just wished the renovation was as cheap as the lens...

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I don't see how a Canon 40D (nice camera but not the same quality as a K20D - I've used it a few times) is comparable. Second the crop circle is almost the same as the Pentax. So how does a 400mm (much shorter), f5.6 (full stop slower) make any comparison to a K20D with a 600mm f4 lens? If you added a 1.5 TC to the canon (assuming AF and that's a big streatch) you are at f8.4. AF probably won't work, same focal length and so slow as to be almost useless for moving wildlife, completely useless for sports, not weather sealed and no SR/VR/IS?

Plus if I wanted to add the Tamron MC4 1.4 TC to this I have an 840mm lens at f5.6.

There simily is no comparison unless I need to take my meds.

If I had the money, I'd buy this in a heart beat.
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although netuser picked the wrong lens for comparison (the 600 f4 is $7600 on B&H), for this type of work, i'd be reluctant to pick pentax as the system of choice
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I would agree as of today to a point. The K20D is a pretty good body at tracking and focusing. But there are better cameras (at a much higher $$$) from C/S/N. So I'd probabaly look at one of thsose bodies today.

Tomorrow I would stay put and get a K-7. If the AF is as improved as has been stated. This camera would do the job just fine.
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I'm not jumping out of Pentax

DA 300/4 seems short to me and then FA600 seems "too expensive".

I'm just trying to find the best, money wise, solution for birding.
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I'm not jumping out of Pentax
Same here - got too much Pentax glass (that I like a lot) to move to another system. I've tried N/C - Pentax is my system of choice - both film & digital. It does what I want and fits well into my style of photography. Others have a different opinion - it certainly isn't mine.

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DA 300/4 seems short to me and then FA600 seems "too expensive".

I'm just trying to find the best, money wise, solution for birding.
I didn't mean to trivialize the typical price of a 600mm f4 - just trying to make a joke about my purchase process. The cost certainly is significant and can be daunting. But I've tried the 300mm & 400mm routes - got both lenses - very nice. They still would not quite get to what I want in my wildlife photography. For me the 600mm does that and has been worth the cost.

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Netuser: what's your budget? If you plan to stay with Pentax, then a budget is still needed. You can be successful with birding at 300mm, but it takes a different approach and more patience.

Having a 500mm lens is nice, 600mm is even better, but often you want even more. It depends on the subject! Shorebirds and such can be approached with some techniques that will let you fill the frame at 500mm (using a blind). I guess I am saying you need to clarify what birds you wish to photograph and how approachable they are. Most of the time my subjects are not used to human presence, so they move away or readily take flight. Hummingbirds are an exception if you still relatively still, but they are incredibly small at ~7-9 cm from head to tail.

Give us some thoughts/answers and perhaps we could help out more definitely for you...

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QuoteOriginally posted by netuser Quote
About the price of the FA600, why to buy one when for less we can get a 400mm f5.6 and a 40d from canon ? (will work great)
An additional 200mm in focal length is significant in wildlife photog not to mention there is a big difference in 5.6 and 4, especially in a 600mm lens! I have the Pentax A 400mm f5.6 and it is a good lens. However, it isn't a substitute for a FA 600mm F4.

Edit: I don't consider a DA 300mm f4 lens a cheap lens. The f4 on a 300mm is neither slow nor fast in my opinion. f4 is fast on any lens greater than 400mm.
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